Junior Mullet Posted 31 March, 2012 Share Posted 31 March, 2012 Not a Prem class player, not in a million years. Has fluffed loads of chances for us, doesn't look dangerous in any way, slows our play down and today showed he can't take penalties. When we go up IMO we need to get rid. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 31 March, 2012 Share Posted 31 March, 2012 ... was pants today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 31 March, 2012 Share Posted 31 March, 2012 This is a wind up, right? The bit about selling him is too, right? RIGHT?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 31 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2012 This is a wind up, right? The bit about selling him is too, right? RIGHT?! No, not at all. I've seen him play quite a few games for us now and whilst he's clearly not firing on all cylinders for us at present I fail to see the potential in him. I am very confident that we will go up this season and I don't see any place for him in a Saints Prem team. When we go up we will need a couple of good forward signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDSFC Posted 31 March, 2012 Share Posted 31 March, 2012 Have to agree in terms of his ability, he has looked ineffective for the vast majority of his minutes for us. He'll usually find the net when in half decent form but when he's not in front goal what does he do? He doesn't seem to have anything else to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 March, 2012 Share Posted 31 March, 2012 If promoted to the Premier League, I can see Saints going for Gary Hooper again in the Summer. Five striker options for 2012/13... Lambert Sharp Hooper Guly Do Prado Tadanari Lee Connolly is out of contract in the summer and the club may not renew. Barnard would be on the fringes and might also leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 31 March, 2012 Share Posted 31 March, 2012 Not a Prem class player, not in a million years. Has fluffed loads of chances for us, doesn't look dangerous in any way, slows our play down and today showed he can't take penalties. When we go up IMO we need to get rid. Discuss. Far too early to be drawing conclusions like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 If promoted to the Premier League, I can see Saints going for Gary Hooper again in the Summer. Five striker options for 2012/13... Lambert Sharp Hooper Guly Do Prado Tadanari Lee Connolly is out of contract in the summer and the club may not renew. Barnard would be on the fringes and might also leave. If we are promoted and keep Connolly I will quit and go watch womens golf instead. I'm not convinced Guly is Prem class either. Barnard and DC really haven't had a decent run out when fit to make a judgement yet. Barnard was excellent before he was injured, Sharp certainly did it for Donny at this level. Both deserve more time IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 It looks to me like HE doesn't think he's good enough. Needs some time with a good Sports Psychologist IMO. And someone so visibly low on confidence shouldn't be taking penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Get rid of Guly 1st PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Harsh! If that pen had gone in you would of been all over him! He made some good runs yesterday, but that ginger lino flagged him off! Also last week he was are hero! Get rid I mean ffs give the poor bloke a chance to settle! What a joke you are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 A bit of revision on the offside law wouldn't go amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Get rid of Guly 1st PLEASE this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Get rid of Guly 1st PLEASE Why? he at least put in some effort yesterday which is more than you can say for most of the team and he was involved in our best chance yesterday.....at the moment I'd rather have Guly on the pitch than Sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Why? he at least put in some effort yesterday which is more than you can say for most of the team and he was involved in our best chance yesterday.....at the moment I'd rather have Guly on the pitch than Sharp. effort?? if you call standing around watching "effort" then yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 (edited) effort?? if you call standing around watching "effort" then yes! Ahhhh the stock bull**** reply which people trot out after every game .....but which anyone who was even half watching knows is complete crap. Guly was tracking back to help out defense and dropping deep in an effort to get the ball from a midfield that only wanted to pass backwards. Edited 1 April, 2012 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Not a Prem class player, not in a million years. Has fluffed loads of chances for us, doesn't look dangerous in any way, slows our play down and today showed he can't take penalties. When we go up IMO we need to get rid. Discuss. Just because we lose poorly and Sharp misses a penalty let's all blame Sharp! You talk as if we have been promoted which we haven't! Try getting behind players not slagging them off please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Pathetic thread. Suppose you didn't see him win us the game last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Billy. We are Southampton. We don't miss penalties. But, haven't seen the TV replay yet so whether the referee was correct to give a penalty, I don't know. There is so much simulation in the area by all teams, penalty kicks are a blight on the game. Reading's penalty looked like a dive to me, and it'll be interesting to see that again but cheating is now endemic in the whole game. Maybe Billy's miss was justice, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 I like the guy. Wanna give him a good run in the side. But yesterday , he was pants. His first three touches / passes he made were all wrong, so i guessed he was going to miss the pen. The lad is low on confidence, its plain to see. A couple next week should help him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Just because we lose poorly and Sharp misses a penalty let's all blame Sharp! You talk as if we have been promoted which we haven't! Try getting behind players not slagging them off please.... He's not Lambert, and had Lambert been playing we would have done better yesterday. It's a hard act to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Think he does have the natural ability to be a decent option in the Prem. Needs a lot of work. He came to us overweight and playing a completely different style of football to us. He's lacking confidence so given all of that I doubt he'll have much impact this season. Get him a proper pre season working with the rest of the team and I think he could surprise a few people next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Yesterday we were ALL pants. To single him out is wrong. Offside alot yes he was. But again we were all crap yesterday noting worked. Get off his back, the guy is yet to play 90mins for us. Knee jerk reaction or what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 It looks to me like HE doesn't think he's good enough. Needs some time with a good Sports Psychologist IMO. And someone so visibly low on confidence shouldn't be taking penalties. Agree with that. He was poor yesterday but: 1. He's just uprooted from a home in which he had personal challenges I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. 2. He's having to play understudy for the first time in his career. 3. He's a poacher not a Lambert and we gave him no appropriate supply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Why? he at least put in some effort yesterday which is more than you can say for most of the team and he was involved in our best chance yesterday.....at the moment I'd rather have Guly on the pitch than Sharp. don't think he even jumped for 1 header yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Don't blame Billy. The Ginger lino played him out of the game yesterday. Guly completely forgot Billy and Adam were on the same pitch and it showed. Billy Sharp is an asset. Let's use him with some support. On yesterdays showing perhaps we should get rid of NA eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 He was poor yesterday as were most if not all of them. His head went down when he missed the penalty, but clearly he is not the type of striker to play up front on his own. When Guly dropped he was left so isolated in was unbelievable. And that is the problem chaps, we miss Lambert more than the rest of them because he is so important to our style of play. Guly was poo yesterday. He did track back a few times & gave free kicks away, but he is an attacker & as an attacker yesterday he missed an open goal!!!!! Sharp needs a partner, as does Guly, as does Lee, as does Connolly, as does Barnard.............................we need another big strong back to goal type striker. Norwich bought Morrison because they knew Holt wont play every game in a season. Next year wether we go up or not we need to do the same!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Something happened to his swede when he went to Sheffield United, so it's up to NA and Southampton to ensure that doesn't happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 don't think he even jumped for 1 header yesterday exactly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 For once Guly didn't stand out because everyone else lowered their game to his level. It was f/cking embarrassing all round. And i agree with the OP - Sharp is fat, slow, no confidence at all, and no potential either. I think he'll go down in that list of duff players we've bought over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 don't think he even jumped for 1 header yesterday No he didn't win many (any) headers but Guly ant' Lambert and yesterday we tried to play him as a targrt many which he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 The worrying thing is that when Guly plays we effectively only have 10 men on the pitch. I don't think NA has much choice in picking him as he's super Nicky's player, but can we really afford to play with 9 men by including Sharp? If Lee and Lambert aren't fit ASAP our season could easily fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 The worrying thing is that when Guly plays we effectively only have 10 men on the pitch. I don't think NA has much choice in picking him as he's super Nicky's player, but can we really afford to play with 9 men by including Sharp? If Lee and Lambert aren't fit ASAP our season could easily fall apart. Yawn. Guly was the best player on the park at Millwall and the only one who went looking for the ball and mixing it up... Time you took those blinkers in your avatar off. He was no worse yesterday than: Lallana Fonte Jos Morgan Sharp Fox Butterfield Shall I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Yawn. Guly was the best player on the park at Millwall and the only one who went looking for the ball and mixing it up... Time you took those blinkers in your avatar off. He was no worse yesterday than: Lallana Fonte Jos Morgan Sharp Fox Butterfield Shall I go on? Guly was his usual self though, but because everyone else lowered their game to his level it made him look better than usual. With everyone else you can say they had a bad game, but with Guly it was normal performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Guly was his usual self though, but because everyone else lowered their game to his level it made him look better than usual. With everyone else you can say they had a bad game, but with Guly it was normal performance. How is it this terrible player has scored as many goals as Lallana, I wonder... ambling around not being Lionel Messi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 How is it this terrible player has scored as many goals as Lallana, I wonder... ambling around not being Lionel Messi... Your guess is as good as mine. But what has he done since Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Yesterday we were ALL pants. To single him out is wrong. Offside alot yes he was. But again we were all crap yesterday noting worked. Get off his back, the guy is yet to play 90mins for us. Knee jerk reaction or what! Yep..poor to a man...but don`t let it get in the way of singling out of one player.....Guly is the scapegoat and for some this will always be the case irespective of anything,anything at all...If he scored a hat trick against the skates he would get the crap the following week some people have to have someone to blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Harsh! If that pen had gone in you would of been all over him! He made some good runs yesterday, but that ginger lino flagged him off! Also last week he was are hero! Get rid I mean ffs give the poor bloke a chance to settle! What a joke you are... This.. Far too early to judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Your guess is as good as mine. But what has he done since Christmas? Er, apart from being man of the match against Millwall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 No he didn't win many (any) headers but Guly ant' Lambert and yesterday we tried to play him as a targrt many which he isn't. nothing is stopping him from jumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 It looks to me like HE doesn't think he's good enough. Needs some time with a good Sports Psychologist IMO. And someone so visibly low on confidence shouldn't be taking penalties. This has crossed my mind too. Not just yesterday but watching interviews etc although we don't know the bloke and he may not be comfortable with a microphone in his face. As for the psychologist, I remember NA talking about the skills from his time as a physio where he often acted as a counsellor to players and trying to 'unlock' the mind in getting them back on the field raising their performance. This will bode well for Sharp rather than an 'arry, tea cup thrower. As for taking the penalty, you would hope that confidence might not be an issue for a player who scored two in the previous fixture. Its too soon to talk of 'getting rid' in my view, and certainly premature to talk of a squad for the premiership.Lets review it after the Coventry match. Having said all that, totally agree his contribution yesterday was poor although he had limited service for much of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 (edited) Er, apart from being man of the match against Millwall? Spot on BUT... You are wasting your time LTC....he will be the scapegoat. full stop.... For some it is an AGENDA which cannot be altered in any way Edited 1 April, 2012 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Why? he at least put in some effort yesterday which is more than you can say for most of the team and he was involved in our best chance yesterday.....at the moment I'd rather have Guly on the pitch than Sharp. I'm sorry, what game did you watch? He was stood around doing sweet FA most of the game, no runs, no movement, no hunger. He quite clearly didn't want to be out there and made it obvious. The most incompetent performance I've seen in a Saints shirt in a while. I don't mind people who aren't good enough but try (Forte, Harding etc) but people who don't put in 100% I have no time for, and that was Guly yesterday. Going back to the original post, I think it's a tad harsh. yes Sharp was poor yesterday, but last week he lead the line brilliantly, and looked as if he could have scored more. The penalty probably didn't help his confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 (edited) Even taking into account the fact that Guly hasn't effectively trained or played since the Hull game as he's nursed a hamstring problem, he had a fair game yesterday. After Lallana, he was the one player I was comfortable to see the ball go to. Its a mistake to think we rely on Lambert for his goals; we miss his beauty-and-the-beast hold-up play. That's what Roberts has brought to Reading. And there are many HCDAJFUs on the market. Why we didn't strengthen to play to our strengths in Jan is still a mystery. FWIW, if Lee is out, its Guly/Lambert everyday for me... Edited 1 April, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Even taking into account the fact that Guly hasn't effectively trained or played since the Hull game as he's nursed a hamstring problem, he had a fair game yesterday. After Lallana, he was the one player I was comfortable to see the ball go to. Its a mistake to think we rely on Lambert for his goals; we miss his beauty-and-the-beast hold-up play. That's what Roberts has brought to Reading. And there are many HCDAJFUs on the market. Why we didn't strengthen to play to our strengths in Jan is still a mystery. Spot on. The ball bounced off Sharp. That's not his fault. He is NOT Rickie Lambert. Sharp is a poacher, a man who needs his FRONT to goal. Lambert plays with his back to goal. If I was a betting man I would say this was why Adkins felt a Diamond would work, because that midfield should have been pushing the ball through quicker, over the top or playing it in behind. The fact we didnt' owes as much to the fact that our full backs could not get forward because they had their hands full with two brilliant wingers and we didn't have any width of our own because Lallana and Chaplow are not wide men... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Spot on BUT... You are wasting your time LTC....he will be the scapegoat. full stop.... I'll match your full stop with a period - the period in question being the first 4 months of 2012. This player has done next-to-nothing (in positive sense anyway) for this club all this calender year. To point out that obvious truth is not to scapegoat him - that is how many SFC fans genuinely see the facts of the matter. Now this seems to outrage the massed ranks of his fan club for some reason - but you can't talk him into being a better player than he is fortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 nothing is stopping him from jumping you mean other than the blackpool defenders getting so close they looked like they were trying to introduce guly to mr purple headed trouser snake. The same happens to Lambert all the time and he doesn't jump either.....doesn't get any grief over it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 A bit of revision on the offside law wouldn't go amiss. Not necessarily. I think he's making runs at the right time, the ball just needs to be released more quickly. Also needs a run of starts to settle in properly. Jos was shaky at the start but a run of games & he settled in fine. The run of games will let Billy learn our patterns of play & then we will see the real Billy Sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 To be honest hes decent enough for us next season i would have him Lambo and Lee and get rid of Guly LB and DC, and sign a young prem player with some experince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Guly acquitted himself magnificently compared to the rest, bar Davies' saves. He made a critical near post defensive header from near the goal line at one point in the first half before we finally imploded. His chip was only 18 inches off the top corner, and not as easy as it looked with the goalie upon him and the pace of the ball moving away from Guly. If it had gone in I guess he'd still get panned on here.... Defence and midfield were diabolical, looked like we were on Mogadon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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