bjk Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 I still dont know,the uncertainty is doing my head in.If we win at Blackpool i think i'll believe we're going to do it.
Saint_Jonny Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 I'm not counting my chickens...or eggs.. or whatever the saying is. One game at a time as Nige always says.
Manuel Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 The Reading game may be pivotal. And I'm worried about Portsmouth. But I think we'll do it.
Micky Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 I'm not as confident as some others appear to be on here. I find some of the presumptious threads on this board more than a little uncomfortable (probably will do - even if we do go up, to be honest) and would prefer to wait until its a done deal before all the trumpet blowing. Things can change pretty quickly - at the moment we look odds on, but if we lose tomorrow and either Reading of West Ham win - then it's gonna be game on. Hope we keep sprinting to the finish line - but I'm not sure that we are dead certs yet.
richie Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 Agreed. There is plenty of football left. Look how things changed in the last few weeks. It can easily change again tbf the players wont be getting carried away but fans will be fans.
Dig Dig Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 We're the best side in the league and everyone knows it. No one has been as consistent as we have been all season. We've got every reason to be confident, it's entirely in our own hands. If it were another side in our position we would be saying that they are up. Have faith and enjoy as this group of players have never let us down thus far.
Saint_lambden Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 It's the natural Saints pessimism. Don't worry, we all have it.
DJ_TOAST Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 it's something I haven't even really contemplated, I can't even imagine the feeling if we didn't.
rpb Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 We've still got a lot of work to do yet. Spot on. The Pompey game will not be an easy one either - derbies are nearly always close.
Wiggles31 Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 I'm fairly content. Norwich at home please lol.
Nexstar Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 If we win tomorrow then I can't see anything stopping us
Brizzie Saints Posted 30 March, 2012 Posted 30 March, 2012 I'm not as confident as some others appear to be on here. I find some of the presumptious threads on this board more than a little uncomfortable (probably will do - even if we do go up, to be honest) and would prefer to wait until its a done deal before all the trumpet blowing. Things can change pretty quickly - at the moment we look odds on, but if we lose tomorrow and either Reading of West Ham win - then it's gonna be game on. Hope we keep sprinting to the finish line - but I'm not sure that we are dead certs yet. Totally Agree. Its really getting to me with people already assuming were as good as up, we are opening ourselves up for an almighty fall & **** take if god forbid we should fail, and i'm not sure theres enough egg to go round. As NA says 1 game at a time, never too high never to low & until the fat lady is screeching her head off i'm counting on nothing. If we do win today, we cant finish any lower than 7th and if results go our way we could be in the playoffs. So I'm just crossing off each result. Control the Controllables
Saint_clark Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 We're the best side in the league and everyone knows it. No one has been as consistent as we have been all season. We've got every reason to be confident, it's entirely in our own hands. If it were another side in our position we would be saying that they are up. Have faith and enjoy as this group of players have never let us down thus far. Exactly.
shurlock Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 We're the best side in the league and everyone knows it. No one has been as consistent as we have been all season. We've got every reason to be confident, it's entirely in our own hands. If it were another side in our position we would be saying that they are up. Have faith and enjoy as this group of players have never let us down thus far. Seriously - every oppo forum ive read thinks their club has a monopoly on screwing up and doing things the hard way. Outside the big four, fatalism, exceptionalism and pessimism are hardwired into every fan's DNA. It so common its boring.
patred44 Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 well it better be by the automatic route. My nerves, heart, or backside couldn't stand the playoffs.
Didcot Saint Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 I just want it over, it's just doing my head in all the ifs and buts. The thing is having been the best team, playing great football, being top virtually all season, it would be heartbreaking if we didn't win the league. Come on Saints, let's do it in style!!
bpsaint Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 Trying to think one game at a time but it's so hard to do so at this point in the season. I find some of our fans talking like we're already up hugely arrogant as we know how quickly things can change in football, but if we can get a win at Blackpool I do believe it'll be a case of when and not if.
Ashley Grute Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 I think we will go up but I am still really worried we won't!
bender Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 Spot on. The Pompey game will not be an easy one either - derbies are nearly always close. I disagree. The only reason top teams dont beat bottom teams is complacency. However, it's a derby so we will be up for it and our quality will shine through. There's no way Pompey will be able to hold us for 90 minutes. My only downer is that if we go 3 up or something we wont go on from that and thump them 5 or 6 nil. We will conserve energy for our game 2 days later.
sidthesquid Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 My head says we will go up, my heart is suffering the anxieties brought on by forty years of supporting the Saints. But can everyone stop all these ' 'When we go up, when we are champions' threads because they just make it worse. Trust me, we've got chickens at home and I NEVER count them.....
Supersubpuckett Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 i think we will go up and can afford a couple of defeats along the way
scotty Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 My head says we will go up, my heart is suffering the anxieties brought on by forty years of supporting the Saints. But can everyone stop all these ' 'When we go up, when we are champions' threads because they just make it worse. Trust me, we've got chickens at home and I NEVER count them..... This. And I've got two chickens at home as well. I know I have two, because I get an expert in every year to count them for me.
Shroppie Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 Mathematically we need 14 points for promotion. Every point we get, or the 3rd placed team drops, reduces that. When it's down to 0, and not before, I'll celebrate and hope to win the league too.
Thedelldays Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 Mathematically we need 14 points for promotion. Every point we get, or the 3rd placed team drops, reduces that. When it's down to 0, and not before, I'll celebrate and hope to win the league too. 3 wins and we are up IMO probably champions maybe even 2 wins and a draw...for 2nd
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 I've booked the play-off final off work. Ha ! I can't tell for the life of me whether you're a optimist, or just a typical Saints fan !
dune Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 If WHU v RFC is a draw and we win i'll be quietly confident. However the biggest game is undoubtedly SFC v RFC. Win that and we should be home and dry.
Colinjb Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 3rd place. Still a stunning achievement but something of an anticlimax. I want to be wrong.
beatlesaint Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 Mathematically we need 14 points for promotion. Every point we get, or the 3rd placed team drops, reduces that. When it's down to 0, and not before, I'll celebrate and hope to win the league too. This. And thats assuming West Ham and Reading win all their games after today......one of them might, both of them ? Very very unlikely. We can afford to lose 2 games as things stand. I fully expect one of them to be today in all honesty.
Thedelldays Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 This. And thats assuming West Ham and Reading win all their games after today......one of them might, both of them ? Very very unlikely. We can afford to lose 2 games as things stand. I fully expect one of them to be today in all honesty. agree...2 games if one of the other two win all their games...which they both can't.. so in reality, with the way form works, we probably could lose 3 games.....but as long as reading don't beat us at SMS
S-Clarke Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 We still have a long way to go, but to put it into some sort of context we'll need a run that was worse than our run over Dec/January in order to fail. That period accumulated just 9 points. 9 points now will give us 87 points which should be enough for top 2, maybe not top spot - but top 2. Stop panicking!
beatlesaint Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 We still have a long way to go, but to put it into some sort of context we'll need a run that was worse than our run over Dec/January in order to fail. That period accumulated just 9 points. 9 points now will give us 87 points which should be enough for top 2, maybe not top spot - but top 2. Stop panicking! Thats interesting.....and rather comforting :-)
waterlooville saint Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 I'd rather be where we are than Reading or West Ham, but still incredibly nervous ... I keep expecting it to all go horribly wrong.
aintforever Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 I'm not actually that nervous, if we end up 3rd we could still do it through the play-offs and get a day out at Wembley. If we don't go up this year we will next season or the season after, it would be great to be in the Prem but it's not all that.
DrunkenSaint Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 I still think it will be touch and go with more twists and turns, Blackpool game will be hard to get 3 points from, Boro away, Pompey and Reading home will also be tough games, yes if we win them all we're there but i can't really see it myself, im sure Pompey will want to damage our chances and a victory against us would make their season.
Window Cleaner Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 If we don't go up from our present platform it will be because we totally blow our last 7 matches and heads will roll. Our salary levels are totally unsustainable without Premier League football and that is why NC has decreed that we need to make the PL this season. From here failure would not be tolerated believe it.
Badger Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 We're the best side in the league and everyone knows it. No one has been as consistent as we have been all season. We've got every reason to be confident, it's entirely in our own hands. If it were another side in our position we would be saying that they are up. Have faith and enjoy as this group of players have never let us down thus far. It's the natural Saints pessimism. Don't worry, we all have it. Two posts sum it up for me. We are more than able, but we all know we are also more than capable of ballsing it up.
Whitey Grandad Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 Still 7 games to go, remember Thunderbirds - anything can happening the next half hour.
Jesus Reigned Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 If we don't go up from our present platform it will be because we totally blow our last 7 matches and heads will roll. Our salary levels are totally unsustainable without Premier League football and that is why NC has decreed that we need to make the PL this season. From here failure would not be tolerated believe it. I assume you mean players' heads will roll rather than Adkins'? Even IF we don't go up, I can't envisage any scenario whereby he'd get sacked.
Window Cleaner Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 I assume you mean players' heads will roll rather than Adkins'? Even IF we don't go up, I can't envisage any scenario whereby he'd get sacked. As I don't actually envisage us not getting promotion I haven't really given much thought to exactly what might happen if we blow a 5/6 point lead in just 7 games.I could see NC being enraged enough to do something which might appear inconceivable at this moment though. It's not going to happen anyway.. In 2 or 3 more games we'll be as good as up.
RobM Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 If WHU v RFC is a draw and we win i'll be quietly confident. However the biggest game is undoubtedly SFC v RFC. Win that and we should be home and dry. Agreed. Nothing is certain until it cannot possibly go any other way, but if results go our way today (with the results you mention) and we beat Reading, it will take a big turnaround in form and fortune to prevent our promotion. Until it's certain though, it's not certain.
Genk Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 I don't think we will do it. Think we will lose today and draw against Pompey. We have some tough away games left. I can see WHU winning today and going on a run.
aintforever Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 7 games left is still 21 points to be won or lost. Long long way to go.
Toadhall Saint Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 3 points today plus Reading/West Ham drawing and I'll feel a little more confident but there's still a way to go. No easy games when your looking to be promoted.
Ohio Saint Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 My dad told me once about a newspaper headline in the fifties when Saints were "Certain" of promotion. "Who Goes up With Saints?" We folded in the last few games. I'm sure we will do it, but I'm leaving my chickens uncounted for now.
Professor Posted 31 March, 2012 Posted 31 March, 2012 We're not up until promotion is a mathematical certainty but as we all know, to miss out requires both Reading and West Ham to get above us, not just one of them. Statistically that is very unlikely when there are only 7 games to play and there is a 6-point gap to 3rd. The unexpected can happen in football but because of GD, WHU have to get 7 points more than Saints in just 7 games and if they do take points off Reading today, the prospect of Reading getting above us becomes less likely. Vice versa also applies of course and a draw is even better for us as the two clubs would drop 4 points between them. We'll all be watching for that result today but I don't think it really matters. As for Saints, we have this 10-game unbeaten run but it hasn't all been plain sailing - at Leeds for example - and you can't rule out losing a game or two during the run-in, even if that seems unlikely on current form. We can afford to lose a couple of games and still get to 90 points which, even if one of our rivals got to that total, is almost certainly too much for them both to reach. So, you can't take it for granted and if the players did so, it would be a major mistake (remember Brighton's slump last year after they got enough points to win the title) but I'm with those who believe promotion is going to happen. And we may not even need 90 points for that.
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