dune Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Ah good, what this forum really needed was a red equivalent of dune We now need to find a poster with a trendy haircut to go with Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Oh, so you are eighteen months old. Fair enough then. Nope, but it's clearly pointless trying to debate with anyone who's not going to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 We now need to find a poster with a trendy haircut to go with Steve. I thought you weren't renewing your subscription? That lasted a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 I thought you weren't renewing your subscription? That lasted a long time Please keep on topic. Tut tut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 why, we are living it We are living through a coalition Government, not a Labour one. You are proceeding from the assumption that it is all Labour's fault because of the parlous state of our finances. We weren't the only country to bail banks out, and some, notably the US who have taken pretty much the opposite approach to austerity, have almost 3% growth in the economy. When assuming power, the coalition, just like Obama, had choices. Obama has made choices that have led to growth. The coalition didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 We are living through a coalition Government, not a Labour one. . fuking hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Nope, but it's clearly pointless trying to debate with anyone who's not going to listen. I've debated on here with plenty of people and conceded points when I've been out-argued or proved wrong. So your point is that we have the weakest opposition in living memory. I've given you a few examples of why that might not be the case, and instead of debating back, you've decided to label me. FWIW, I think I'm given you considerably more respect than you've just shown me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 I've debated on here with plenty of people and conceded points when I've been out-argued or proved wrong. So your point is that we have the weakest opposition in living memory. I've given you a few examples of why that might not be the case, and instead of debating back, you've decided to label me. FWIW, I think I'm given you considerably more respect than you've just shown me. He must be having a bad hair day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 fuking hell I'm tweeting this into Dimbleby for Thursday night's Question Time. Such pearls of political wisdom should not go undiscovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Funny how the "Health and Safety" concerns arise now we have a Tory led coalition. A spokesman on Sky news this afternoon said the regulations were exactly the same under Labour. 2 questions for the lefties, Labour had 13 years to regulate and make things safer, why didn't they? And why was their no strike action on these "important" H&S concerns during their time in office. The union can't be playing politics as lefties are above that sort of thing, so it's all very strange........... It's against SWF rules and regulations to even think about bringing up what Labour did and didn't do in recent history. Dontcha know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 I actually do. This is a bandit government. It is not interested in the people, just getting as much as it can for its mates before it is turfed out. One of the great thinkers on the left. Thank you for your indepth analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 I actually do. This is a bandit government. It is not interested in the people, just getting as much as it can for its mates before it is turfed out. I'm with you on this one. I'm seriously hoping that Ed Milliband wins the next election. Especially after the disappointment of Cala missing out on Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 I'm tweeting this into Dimbleby for Thursday night's Question Time. Such pearls of political wisdom should not go undiscovered. If I'd known John Prescott was on the show tonight I'd have stayed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 The working class arent as stupid as the govt. thinks Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 One of the great thinkers on the left. Thank you for your indepth analysis. Which would be a fair enough comment, if that was the only thing I'd ever posted on the subject. I've gone to considerable lengths to qualify my points in other posts, me ol' mucker. More than you can say for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Which would be a fair enough comment, if that was the only thing I'd ever posted on the subject. I've gone to considerable lengths to qualify my points in other posts, me ol' mucker. More than you can say for some. Yeah. You tell him brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Yeah. You tell him brother. Careful now, you might get called the right-wing equivalent of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Careful now, you might get called the right-wing equivalent of me. Tony Blair? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Tony Blair? ;-) Ah Tony - was doing ever so well before he got his commands from Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Ah Tony - was doing ever so well before he got his commands from Washington.### Think he got his commands from the same source as David Icke - is married to one of those new age boll ox believing nutters as well.... and I am definitely left of centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 ### Think he got his commands from the same source as David Icke - is married to one of those new age boll ox believing nutters as well.... I still wonder how we got so far into bed with the closest thing the US has ever had to an authoritarian government. I didn't agree with Afghanistan, but I could understand how that would be one possible reaction to 9/11. The Iraq stuff was just pure imperialism, and I can't believe that elements of our Government lied to legitimise pre-emptive action at the behest of a foreign power. I don't think its too far a stretch to call him a war criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 I still wonder how we got so far into bed with the closest thing the US has ever had to an authoritarian government. I didn't agree with Afghanistan, but I could understand how that would be one possible reaction to 9/11. The Iraq stuff was just pure imperialism, and I can't believe that elements of our Government lied to legitimise pre-emptive action at the behest of a foreign power. I don't think its too far a stretch to call him a war criminal. Indeed, with best will in the world there has never been a satisfactory response to the 'its about the oil' reality - always was, always will be and the fact that a so called labour Pm effectively bent over the pickle barrel and took a thorough shafting from the drink driving syphillitic di ck feckwit moron that was GeeDUBYA is only superceeded in the credibilty stakes by how the flying feck such an ignorant feckwit as GWB was every able to be elected president in the first place.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 There is one interesting angle to the panic buying caused by government advice to top up. Apparently it's possible that the extra spent on fuel this month could change the figure that is used to determine if we have gone back into recession to the point where its not the case when it looks at the moment like it will show recession. But i am sure that's just a coincidence!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 There is one interesting angle to the panic buying caused by government advice to top up. Apparently it's possible that the extra spent on fuel this month could change the figure that is used to determine if we have gone back into recession to the point where its not the case when it looks at the moment like it will show recession. But i am sure that's just a coincidence!? Probably not, but I'm sure that the more respected news organs will notice that without the fuel panic, we would have been in recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 I've debated on here with plenty of people and conceded points when I've been out-argued or proved wrong. So your point is that we have the weakest opposition in living memory. I've given you a few examples of why that might not be the case, and instead of debating back, you've decided to label me. FWIW, I think I'm given you considerably more respect than you've just shown me. Are you drunk, or on drugs? Or just weak and not thinking straight because you're a vegetarian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Are you drunk, or on drugs? Or just weak and not thinking straight because you're a vegetarian? None of the above. Mirrors my political views really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 None of the above. Mirrors my political views really. Me too. I voted for the Basingstoke Common Man Party as my protest vote ... then the c*nt turned up at the results wearing a skate shirt. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Me too. I voted for the Basingstoke Common Man Party as my protest vote ... then the c*nt turned up at the results wearing a skate shirt. FFS. And people wonder why fringe parties don't stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 There is one interesting angle to the panic buying caused by government advice to top up. Apparently it's possible that the extra spent on fuel this month could change the figure that is used to determine if we have gone back into recession to the point where its not the case when it looks at the moment like it will show recession. But people aren't going to actually use any more fuel than usual. So the revenue to the government won't change, it'll just have an uneven distribution over a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 But people aren't going to actually use any more fuel than usual. So the revenue to the government won't change, it'll just have an uneven distribution over a few weeks. Just in time though as the "are we in a recession or not" announcement is next week I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Just in time though as the "are we in a recession or not" announcement is next week I believe. Yep, the 'extra' spending will fall into Q1, the lack of spending in Q2 - crafty barstewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Yep, the 'extra' spending will fall into Q1, the lack of spending in Q2 - crafty barstewards. It all counts when we're talking only 0.1% to make the difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 makes me worry what would happen if one day OPEC decided, **** you UK, we're not selling you oil any more for whatever reason. We'd all be ****ed. We need to diversify our energy, for our own sakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 makes me worry what would happen if one day OPEC decided, **** you UK, we're not selling you oil any more for whatever reason. We'd all be ****ed. We need to diversify our energy, for our own sakes. that will never happen in your life time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Me too. I voted for the Basingstoke Common Man Party as my protest vote ... then the c*nt turned up at the results wearing a skate shirt. FFS. If the words common and man didn't give you a clue then you deserve your candidate.. Thread is too silly to comment seriously...a red Dune would be Thatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 that will never happen in your life time Fair enough, but it's still a worry to be reliant of such a small group of countries for the vast majority of our energy needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Fair enough, but it's still a worry to be reliant of such a small group of countries for the vast majority of our energy needs. hence why we we are stopping Iran from building the bomb.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 hence why we we are stopping Iran from building the bomb.... That doesn't solve the underlying issue of being reliant on such a small number of countries for the majority of energy needs. We need to switch to renewables and Nuclear etc... On petrol and diesel actually, there is some very interesting stuff going on where they build DNA from scratch and put it in a cell so it builds diesel and so on. That is the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 That doesn't solve the underlying issue of being reliant on such a small number of countries for the majority of energy needs. We need to switch to renewables and Nuclear etc... On petrol and diesel actually, there is some very interesting stuff going on where they build DNA from scratch and put it in a cell so it builds diesel and so on. That is the future. people like you, 20 years ago, demanded the closure of nuclear plants etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 people like you, 20 years ago, demanded the closure of nuclear plants etc..... I don't really see how that is relevant to anything. You have no idea what 'people like me' are like as you know nothing of me whatsoever. For what it is worth though, I do not think that Uranium powered nuclear power does have a long term future, but Thalium based Nuclear Power is one to look into a lot. The UK should invest in tidal power. We are a bloody island afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 For what it is worth though, I do not think that Uranium powered nuclear power does have a long term future, but Thalium based Nuclear Power is one to look into a lot. The UK should invest in tidal power. We are a bloody island afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Fracking into those gas reserves is the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 March, 2012 Share Posted 29 March, 2012 people like you, 20 years ago, demanded the closure of nuclear plants etc..... Like what Germany is doing now. Such an underperforming country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2012 Retail store Halfords reported "high" sales of fuel cans. Sales of all cans have soared by 225% compared with this time last year, with motorists buying in "the thousands", while sales of jerry cans are up by more than 500%. I wonder how many people would jump off the proverbial bridge if advised by the Government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 March, 2012 Share Posted 30 March, 2012 Good to see that Labour are capitalising on this Tory 'debacle' by cleaning up at by-elections.... I take it back, the great British public aren't that stupid afterall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 30 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 30 March, 2012 Good to see that Labour are capitalising on this Tory 'debacle' by cleaning up at by-elections.... I take it back, the great British public aren't that stupid afterall... Actually quite encouraged by that vote in the Bradford by-election. You could view it as a massive "none of the above" to every mainstream offering. About fecking time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 March, 2012 Share Posted 30 March, 2012 Actually quite encouraged by that vote in the Bradford by-election. You could view it as a massive "none of the above" to every mainstream offering. About fecking time. That's right Mandy. You tell 'em ;-) (I'm sure you'd have said the same if it was the hapless Tories losing a safe seat by 10,000 votes) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 30 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 30 March, 2012 That's right Mandy. You tell 'em ;-) (I'm sure you'd have said the same if it was the hapless Tories losing a safe seat by 10,000 votes) :-) Honestly, I don't think I would. Now getting to the point where I actively detest the lot in charge, whereas I just really disliked the last government ( especially Mandelson ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 30 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 30 March, 2012 Woman in Yorkshire seriously burned trying to decant petrol in her kitchen. Beeb article People now calling for Francis Maude's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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