Who do you want to go up to and down from the Premiership?

[SaintBobby]

Didn't want to curse us by making it sound like we're already promoted. We ain't.

 

But it's starting to look like enough of a possibility that I'm taking an interest not only in the Championship, but who stays in the PL.

 

Who do you want to go up and down?

 

UP: SAINTS, READING, BRIGHTON (would like to see West Ham suffer and three southern teams in the PL would be fun - espec given Pompey's collapse)

DOWN: QPR, BOLTON, WOLVES (I think Blackburn and Wigan will be crap next season, so want them to stay up as "relegation fodder" if we are promoted)

[This Charming Man]

Up: Saints - Obviously, West Ham - they're a 'proper' club and would rather they're up there than some tinpot outfit like Reading. Cardiff - purely because it would be funny watching people getting worked up about 2 Welsh teams in the Prem.

 

Down: QPR - Don't want to pay silly money to go to their horrible little ground. Bolton - Because it's dull. Blackburn - need to get rid of some of the North West deadwood.

Edited 28 March, 2012 by This Charming Man

[los_saint]

UP: Saints (of course), Reading (At least they're almost a South Coast Club, plus it would be interesting to see what happens at WHU if they don't get promoted.

DOWN: Wigan - They don't deserve their place in the top flight with such pathetic support. QPR (Horrible little ground)

[Window Cleaner]

Up: Saints - Obviously, West Ham - they're a 'proper' club and would rather they're up there than some tinpot outfit like Reading. Cardiff - purely because it would be funny watching people getting worked up about 2 Welsh teams in the Prem.

 

Down: QPR - Don't want to pay silly money to go to their horrible little ground. Bolton - Because it's dull. Blackburn - need to get rid of some of the North East deadwood.

 

North West deadwood....In fact Blackburn,Wigan,Bolton would be a nigh on clean sweep of NWDW.

[S-Clarke]

I want QPR to drop, they've done it all wrong and their panic buying in January made me cringe at times. It doesn't work.

 

Wigan - because they do my head in. Such a boring team who offer nothing, no fans, no support and they lose most weeks. They really shouldn't be playing at this level and it's amazing that they still are.

 

Wolves will go because their board cocked up, and sacked a proven manager with no plan a, or plan b. They deserve to drop.

 

I'd expec to see us (obviously!) WHU and Blackpool in the prem next year.

[Thedelldays]

i like wigan.

bolton going down would be funny...probably still go on about "fabrice"

wolves are gone though IMO

 

so, wolves, QPR and Bolton will do me

[This Charming Man]

North West deadwood....In fact Blackburn,Wigan,Bolton would be a nigh on clean sweep of NWDW.

 

Ooops...

[This Charming Man]

i like wigan.

bolton going down would be funny...probably still go on about "fabrice"

wolves are gone though IMO

 

so, wolves, QPR and Bolton will do me

 

I want Wigan to stay up purely as I've never been to their ground.

[Thedelldays]

I want Wigan to stay up purely as I've never been to their ground.

they have **** fans, they are a tin pot club but their manager is pretty good IMO

nearly all of their players are poor yet they always try to play football, they always lose their best players yet they always go for it...rather than sit back for a 0-0

[SaintBobby]

they have **** fans, they are a tin pot club but their manager is pretty good IMO

nearly all of their players are poor yet they always try to play football, they always lose their best players yet they always go for it...rather than sit back for a 0-0

 

I love Martinez. Performed miracles in keeping them up (and in giving them half a chance of staying up this year)

[saint1977]

To go up - Us, Reading and I agree with Saint Bobby on Brighton - it would give southern football one heck of a boost. It would also wind the skates up majorly as they contemplate trips to Torquay and Crawley! I've got nothing against West Ham, a lot of their fans that I know are decent and very different to the idiots on KUMB. However, I think that Heston Blumenthal at Reading has done almost as good a job as our Nigel and they were so close last year.

 

To go down - Wolves will go down regardless. I can understand why people think it was daft to sack McCarthy but imagine the meltdown on here if we lost 1-5 at home to the skates when playing in the same division on similar resources? QPR I'd like to see drop as Swansea and Norwich's achievements model how I'd like us to be in the PL IF we are promoted. QPR have bought highly paid dross and their support has been terrible. It won't happen but Villa as the third team so McLeish can get his relegation 'hat-trick'. Again, I've nothing against Villa but could say with confidence that Bolton with their debts, Blackburn and Wigan would all be weaker than SFC should we be promoted.

 

Not the original OP I know but really hope Hudds do it this time and reach the NPC and in Devon would like to see Exeter stay up, Torquay go up from L2 and Plymouth stay in the league.

[SuperMikey]

Up:

Saints - Obvious reasons...

Reading - Local away day, they'll go down again quickly leaving a Leicester/Notts Forest/Derby/Boro to go up (i.e. a proper team).

Brum - Quite like the club, my mate supports them and says he'll take me along to a Brum vs Villa game if they go up.

 

Down:

QPR - Don't like their fans much and the way they've dealt with their managers is appalling (almost as appalling as hiring Mark Hughes).

Wigan - Overstayed their welcome in the top league at the expense of much bigger teams. Quite like Martinez though.

Wolves - Also like the club but they need a fresh start. Get relegated, hire Lee Clark (or another talented young manager) and get better.

[saint-crinny]

Up - Us, Reading & Brum

 

Down - Dont care really, but would like Wigan to come down. For no other reason than that i'd love us to try and sign Moses - he is class

[saints-cris]

Hope us, West Ham and Reading go up. Think they're the 3 that actually deserve it.

 

I hope Wigan go down, utter **** support. Rugby town. Would like Blackburn to go too, but think they will avoid it. I think Wolves are doomed although I quite like them.

[Window Cleaner]

Up Saints evidently,West Ham,Bimingham...the remaining 69 football league clubs will get some more PL money that way,might not have as many admins.

 

Down Wolves (so that we can get their keeper) QPR (might be able to get Taraabt) Blackburn..apppointing the tea boy as manager should never pay off.

[MongoNeil]

I want as much of the "Northwest Deadwood" as possible to stay up, I might actually get to some games next season then :-)

[This Charming Man]

Up Saints evidently,West Ham,Bimingham...the remaining 69 football league clubs will get some more PL money that way,might not have as many admins.

 

Down Wolves (so that we can get their keeper) QPR (might be able to get Taraabt) Blackburn..apppointing the tea boy as manager should never pay off.

 

No thanks, he's an over-rated w*nker.

[The Cat]

Up - Us, Reading, Brighton. Want West Ham to stay down due to the ridiculous way they've chucked money around this season and because of Allardyce being a twunt. Also Reading and Brighton are dead easy away games, and it would be great to win at the Amex.

 

Down - Wolves, Blackburn, Bolton. Wolves just because they are so bad this season and I'd like us to sign Jarvis. The other 2 because they are boring places to go and lack atmosphere. Wigan to stay up for the same reason as This Charming Man gave.

[skintsaint]

Villa, Wigan, Wolves to come down

 

Us, Hammers and Reading to go up.

[scotty]

I would keegan it if whu didnt go up. Partly because of the allardyce hoofball, which at almost any other club wouldnt really bother me, but at west ham??? ffs... and also because I really, really dislike that horrible slug sullivan.

 

Outside of them, us obviously, reading, and anybody else. As for the drop from the prem, wolves are pretty much down already, and wigan ought to be. Agree about martinez trying to play decent football though. Blackburn are due, but I have a feeling they will stay up. Bolton are next in line imho, I think they will drop regardless of the wholly laudable sentimental outpouring over Fabrice M.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Up - Saints, Reading, Brighton/Blackpool

 

Down - Wolves, Bolton, Blackburn

[paulsfc]

Up - Us, Reading & Brighton. 3 Southern sides in the prem can only be a good thing, plus would LOVE watching the financial imlplosion at West Ham next year. Big Club myar*e!

 

Down - Wigan - years in the prem and still no-one cares about them. Decent manager tho. Wolves - dull, lack ambition. QPR - the poster boys of how not to do things in the prem, signing 'big name' players like some 12 year old playing football manager. Hopefully they'll plummet to League One where they belong. Would be funny to see Blackburn stay up just to see how fans react to Steve Kean after that

[warsash saint]

I would want QPR to stay up.....was always my favourite away day back in the day.

[Doctoroncall]

Up: Saints, Reading and Brighton

 

Down: would have liked to see Mcleish take a tumble but unlikely now so QPR, Wolves and Bolton.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Want QPR to stay up as my Mum's family are from Ealing and all support them. One of my Fav away games.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Wolves drop ,after doing a Lowe and replacing MM with his right hand man.

 

Would like Wigan to go as Dave Whelan is a ****. Keeps banging on about wage caps and clubs living within their means. Had they done so, they would still be in the 4th Division.He now wants to pull the ladder up and stop other teams doing the same.

 

Blackburn, Steve Keen is a crap Manager. I feel sorry for their fans, they remind me of our Branfoot campaign. The press keep banging on about how Keen has proved them wrong. The fans get a bad press, but Keen is still crap whichever way you look at it.Would like to see them go down and prove the supporters right.

[Jack]

Up - Saints, West Ham (grudgingly, at least they're a proper club), and Leeds through the playoffs (same reason as WHU).

 

Down - QPR (example of how not to run a club), Wigan (northern rugby town, sh*t support), then a toss up between Bolton & Wolves. Bolton probably, there are too many Scottish managers in the prem, and theyre more northern.

 

I think it'd be nice to see some of the old 'big' clubs back up there. The likes of Wigan, QPR, Reading, Burnley, Blackpool, and especially Portsmouth, can f*ck off

[Saint]

Up:

Obviously Saints.

Brighton

Blackpool

 

This is who I want to go up. Great for South coast football and a bit of an extra kick in the nuts for pompey. I like Blackpool. They had a decent season in the Prem and do things the right way. They kept Holloway (even if he is an idiot) and didn't sack him as a knee jerk reaction as I would expect most clubs to do.

It would be pretty amazing if two clubs achieved double promotion too. Not really bothered about sharing that with Brighton. Just be nice to be part of it.

As for West Ham I would, Keegan style, LOVE IT if they stayed down. I can't stand the way they've gone about their business this season. Buying anybody with any amount of hype surrounding them. They'll regret it.

 

However, my instinct says it will be:

 

Saints

Reading

West Ham/Birmingham

 

Down:

QPR

Wigan

Wolves

 

This is who I want to go down and also who I think will. QPR have done exactly what I hope we never do. Buying other clubs overpaid cast offs. I was rooting for them to be promoted last season as I like seeing old faces back in the Prem. But after watching 'The Four Year Plan' and seeing how they treated their managers I was disgusted. They now have quite decent players (Barton, Ferdinand, Wright-Phillips, Cisse) but they just look terrible. What the hell has happened to them. Wigan have overstayed their welcome. I have nothing against them at all, but their support is very poor and they don't add anything of value to the league. They actually play quite nice football and Martinez is a great manager but, I just think it's their time. Wolves are a great club, but I think they're for it now. Going down would show the board what a ridiculous decision it was to sack McCarthy and I think they need to see that. They'll probably come straight back up anyway.

[derry]

Saints Reading Brighton, Blackburn Bolton Wigan. Too many NW and London clubs.

[adrian lord]

QPR + Blackburn are moral relegates in my book. Don't care about who else goes down

 

Us, Leeds and Brum to go up.

[Dark Munster]

Normally I would have nothing against Brighton, but because of their dirty, cheating, whining sh*t of a manager I hope they don't go up.

[stevegrant]

Saints, Reading and Leeds to go up, QPR, Wolves and Bolton to go down.

[Saint_Jonny]

Saints, Reading and Leeds to go up, QPR, Wolves and Bolton to go down.

 

Can we have SWP if QPR go down please? Thanks.

[Window Cleaner]

Can we have SWP if QPR go down please? Thanks.

 

why would we want that total waste of space,haven't we had enough Wright-Phillips here already?

they are Londoners and perform best in that environment.

[Window Cleaner]

QPR + Blackburn are moral relegates in my book. Don't care about who else goes down

 

Us, Leeds and Brum to go up.

 

A very whimsical up list there, you may want that but it's nigh on mathematically impossible for it to happen.

[Lifelongsaint83]

GOING UP : Saints, Reading and my mind says West Ham, but my heart wants Leeds up

 

GOING DOWN : Wigan, Wolves and QPR

[CWD]

Up: Saints, Reading, Brighton. Same reasons as everyone else, it's time we put South Coast football back on the map, it would **** off all my pompey supporting mates, and would show how building a team slowly is much more successful than the West Ham approach.

 

Down: Wigan, Blackburn and Bolton. I like Martinez and Kean but hate how badly supported their clubs are. I'm also sick of my Man Utd season ticket holder housemate going on about a 'football powerhouse' in the North West. For this reason I'd also like Bolton to go down, but I think Wolves are gone already.

 

Still, would be great to replace three scummy northern towns' teams with two decent southern cities' teams. And Reading.

[Webby]

If wolves go down, I'd take Matt Jarvis thank you very much.

[CWD]

If wolves go down, I'd take Matt Jarvis thank you very much.

 

Yes please!

[L1Minus10]

Up

Saints of course

Reading

Brighton

 

I work in Brighton and all the fans I speak to don't want to go up as they think they're not ready for it and would get completely battered. I hate Poyet but it would be good for the 3 Southern clubs to go up.

 

Down

Wolves

Wigan

Spurs (ok, Bolton)

[sandwichsaint]

Up Saints evidently,West Ham,Bimingham...the remaining 69 football league clubs will get some more PL money that way,might not have as many admins.

 

Down Wolves (so that we can get their keeper) QPR (might be able to get Taraabt) Blackburn..apppointing the tea boy as manager should never pay off.

 

This is a 'joke' right?

[The Kraken]

Up: Us, Reading and Cardiff (only because my mate works for them and I get free tickets.....)

 

Down: Wigan, Bolton, Blackburn, clubs who have settled for league mediocrity and can't fill their small grounds.

[Jonnyboy]

So long as Brighton and west Ham don't go up I'm happy enough.

[stug76]

Saints, Reading and Brighton to go up, Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea to go down. 3 titles on the trot. COYR.

[The9]

Didn't want to curse us by making it sound like we're already promoted. We ain't.

 

But it's starting to look like enough of a possibility that I'm taking an interest not only in the Championship, but who stays in the PL.

 

Who do you want to go up and down?

 

UP: SAINTS, READING, BRIGHTON (would like to see West Ham suffer and three southern teams in the PL would be fun - espec given Pompey's collapse)

DOWN: QPR, BOLTON, WOLVES (I think Blackburn and Wigan will be crap next season, so want them to stay up as "relegation fodder" if we are promoted)

 

BRIGHTON ? Seriously ?

 

For me...

 

UP : Saints, Reading and Hull (mostly inoffensive, sure to go back down and I still haven't been there yet)

DOWN : Wolves (been there, horrible fans and always trouble outside the away end), Blackburn (been there, northern, plastic, meh) and Bolton (been, northern, plastic, more meh) - which leaves Wigan which I've never been to and QPR which is a London away. Wouldn't care if Villa went down either, as I've been to more games there than the home grounds of some teams I've played for.

[sandwichsaint]

Can't believe anybody wants Brighton to go up; nothing against their fans but they are a no-mark club with a monkey-faced manager and they play the ultimate brand of anti-football. With their unfinished ground of 20k they would be a total embarrassment in the Prem.

 

Down, Wolves, the ultimate yo-yo club (why are people defending MM? He's had years and achieved very little -should have gone at Xmas to give them a chance of staying up). QPR - LOL at Mark Hughes, a comedy manager at a comedy club. Bolton, have taken mediocre to the nth degree, Saints without MLT. Blackburn - would luv it, just luv it, if Keane stayed up, for all the games they lost they were rarely out played (and if they stay up this yr they will be hot favourites to go down next year), Wigan, Martinez deserves to stay up but agree that Wigan have become the bed-blockers of the Prem.

 

UP - Saints - consistently the best team in this league, we wobbled but nobody could take advantage. Reading - Noddy club but decent manager, likely to take one of next year's relegation spots. Best-of-the-rest? Don't really care! Like to say Leeds or Leicester, more likely to be West Ham or Brighton or Brum (another team to take one of those all important relegation spots).

[John Boy Saint]

I like the fact that some folks are eager for QPR to go down only to pick up Taraabt and SWP!! Obviously after nearly 2 seasons of Adkins they still don't get it, stick them on the same side of the boat and we will be rowing in a great big circle. Both bloody useless to quote a QPR ST holder............ But hey let's add Barton to the shopping list and get a crap trio to throw into the bargain!

[corsacar saint]

Quite an irony the fact that we may change places with Wigan,as they swapped places with us in 2004/2005. To go down,hopefully Wolves,Bolton and Wigan. To go up,us and could not personally care who else.

[SaintBobby]

If Pompey go pop (or spend the next twenty years meandering around the lower leagues/non-leagues), I can see Saints and Brighton developing a decent rivalry. I'm quite up for that.

[sambosa75]

The north west clean sweep for me. Blackburn, Wigan and Bolton. 3 places I have absolutely no interest in returning to.

 

Hope QPR stay up as I'm 2 stops away from Shepherds Bush on the overground so nice, easy travel!

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Down: Wigan, Blackburn and Bolton. I like Martinez and Kean but hate how badly supported their clubs are. .

 

SIGHHHHHHHHHH!

 

I hate pointing out this fact but let's forget the "myth" that Blackburn are a badly supported club just because you see a team playing in a stadium which is too big for the club.

 

I'm going to compare Blackburn, a town, to Southampton, a city.

 

 

Blackburn = 105,000 population

 

Blackburn Rovers ave attendance = 22,000 = 1/5 of population attend games.

 

 

 

Southampton = 240,000 population

 

Southampton ave attendance = 25,000 = 1/9 of population attend games

 

 

If 1/5 of the population of Southampton attended the games then their average attendance would be just around 48,000.

 

 

Not bad for a small town club, don't you think? Let's give their fans some credit where it's due and not fall into the trap by assuming they're badly supported when in fact you could say the same about Southampton.