bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Don't have a heart attack or traffic accident seems to be the main message! http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/27/health-reforms-damage-nhs-risk-register/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 nothing sensationalist at all though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 My wife and I earn close on £150K a year between us and I expect to be treated well by the NHS should the need arise and I need emergency treatment. We have private health care.... God knows we pay a lot to our govt between us in tax and NI. I am a big believer in the NHS and these Tories are screwing up what labour had pretty much sorted out. Dont give me crap about NHS and waste as if nothing is wasted in the private sector coz thats b0ll0cks. Otherwise I would not have the job I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 March, 2012 We can all see why Cameron refused to publish the risk register in spite of a ruling by the Information Commissioner. Any public sector project has to include a risk assessment and register, why not this major 'reform'. I can't find it now, but I have recently seen a list of members of both Houses of Parliament, showing their links to companies with interests in the healthcare business. Another example of Dave and George looking after their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 How fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Don't have a heart attack or traffic accident seems to be the main message! http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/27/health-reforms-damage-nhs-risk-register/ "could" damage the NHS? Why the doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 March, 2012 "could" damage the NHS? Why the doubt? If the Risk Register were to be published, then those at the coalface, so to speak, could pre-empt the risks, couldn't they. (That's a rhetorical question BTW). Since you like analogies, if your house had an underground river running along the bottom of the garden, you'd like to know that there was a risk it would flood, wouldn't you? Or would you rather your surveyor kept quiet about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Since you like analogies, if your house had an underground river running along the bottom of the garden, you'd like to know that there was a risk it would flood, wouldn't you? No, I'd simply divert it into the moat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 My wife and I earn close on £150K a year between us and I expect to be treated well by the NHS should the need arise and I need emergency treatment. We have private health care.... God knows we pay a lot to our govt between us in tax and NI. I am a big believer in the NHS and these Tories are screwing up what labour had pretty much sorted out. Dont give me crap about NHS and waste as if nothing is wasted in the private sector coz thats b0ll0cks. Otherwise I would not have the job I have. I raise monies paid because I think its relevant, what's the contract between the NHS and us? I should not pay for anything if I don't know what I am buying...should any of us? This assumes that we are all contributing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 March, 2012 No, I'd simply divert it into the moat Moat aside, how would you know if your surveyor hadn't told you? Sometimes, Trousers, your pedantry ill serves you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Moat aside, how would you know if your surveyor hadn't told you? Sometimes, Trousers, your pedantry ill serves you. I've got my own divining rods...or should that be 'divine rod'...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 March, 2012 I've got my own divining rods...or should that be 'divine rod'...? Only Mrs T could answer that with any degree of certainty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 The NHS is the greatest thing we've done. The fact we band together as a society to other treatment to all, totally blind of their race, age, wealth etc is fantastic. The fact this bill got through is a disgrace, and I still can not believe they are raising the private healthcare cap to 49% among over reforms opening up the service to rampant competition. Mark my words, I sat on a board at a hospital for a year so I know about the effects this bill could lead to, and that is creeping privatisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Mark my words, I sat on a board at a hospital for a year so I know about the effects this bill could lead to, and that is creeping privatisation. Were you 12 at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Mark my words, I sat on a board at a hospital for a year so I know about the effects this bill could lead to, and that is creeping privatisation. Only 62 more years until you've had as much experience of working in the NHS as my wife's family have then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Only 62 more years until you've had as much experience of working in the NHS as my wife's family have then.... That's fair enough! My brother is a doctor too though. But I can't beat 62 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Were you 12 at the time? 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 That's fair enough! My brother is a doctor too though. But I can't beat 62 years. I cheated slightly as that's a combined amount of years rather than elapsed :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Lol sat on the board at a hospital. Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Lol sat on the board at a hospital. Priceless. top exec y'know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Lol sat on the board at a hospital. Priceless. Yep, board of governors. I represented young people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 March, 2012 top exec y'know Membership of NHS Trusts is the norm and encouraged. Here's an example: http://www.northdevonhealth.nhs.uk/ft/why-be-a-member/ So don't knock him for taking an interest and doing something constructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Membership of NHS Trusts is the norm and encouraged. Here's an example: http://www.northdevonhealth.nhs.uk/ft/why-be-a-member/ So don't knock him for taking an interest and doing something constructive. Yep, normal people from all walks on life sit on the board of governors. Most of them are elected by constituency. Though some, like the young persons one and the disabled one are nominated from a shortlist by the Hosptial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 I sat on a board at a hospital for a year so I know about the effects this bill could lead to. NHS in chair shortage shock!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 NHS in chair shortage shock!! I like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 27 March, 2012 Share Posted 27 March, 2012 Yep, board of governors. I represented young people. Fair play to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 4 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17604351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17604351 No surprise really. I don't know any GP who thinks this is a good idea. Most of them i speak to would rather spend time with patients which will happen much less soon. Worrying times indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 No surprise really. I don't know any GP who thinks this is a good idea. Most of them i speak to would rather spend time with patients which will happen much less soon. Worrying times indeed. The PCT's are also unpopular for a reason, they set the budgets. GP's will become protest points under this bill. Such big distractions from their key role, seeing patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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