SaintAmongSkates Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Don't know why but I tend to see life as a glass half empty rather than half full. Following saints is no exception. If (when) we beat Donny this afternoon I'm officially going to see our promotion prospects as being probable rather than possible. Any other pessimists out there willing to share what it will take to view things with optimism?
paulwantsapint Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I will remain on hoping for promotion until it is mathamaticly guaranteed before hope becomes belief Premature belief in saints has left me deflated to often
Cestrian Saint Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I'm with both of you on this. I'm convinced we'll slip up this afternoon and then go on a dreadful run that will see us finish 3rd and then fail to go up in the play offs.
Ohio Saint Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I've always been pessemistic regarding Saints, but these days, all the old fears seem to be a thing of the past. This is just not the same saints!
SaintAmongSkates Posted 24 March, 2012 Author Posted 24 March, 2012 Now I'm a believer. Great set of results today.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 There is a long way to go yet with some tough games. Will go to the last day
Window Cleaner Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Will go to the last day I really doubt that, probably be all over after Dellhurst.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I really doubt that, probably be all over after Dellhurst. I hope you are right. I don't mind the first or second place going to the wire as long as both top two are guaranteed promotion.
Minsk Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I hope you are right. I don't mind the first or second place going to the wire as long as both top two are guaranteed promotion. I am absolutely certain that we will finish closer to 1st than 17th!!!
S-Clarke Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I'm with both of you on this. I'm convinced we'll slip up this afternoon and then go on a dreadful run that will see us finish 3rd and then fail to go up in the play offs. I have no idea why people think like this! Bizarre outlook to have.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I am absolutely certain that we will finish closer to 1st than 17th!!! Have to say I got that wrong.
S-Clarke Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Have to say I got that wrong. It was clear you got that wrong in August. Well done for finally admitting it.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 It was clear you got that wrong in August. Well done for finally admitting it. No it wasn't, not to me anyway.
Saint137 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I didn't join in with the "And now you've gotta believe us..." this afternoon. Too early for that, particularly with Reading bouncing back. Tough away game next week, possibly without Lambert, be happy with a point from that.
S-Clarke Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 No it wasn't, not to me anyway. It was only you who had the moronic view that we'd be anywhere near 17th, which is why you need to be tied up into some sort of asylum! It'll keep you away from Hoddle too.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 It was only you who had the moronic view that we'd be anywhere near 17th, which is why you need to be tied up into some sort of asylum! It'll keep you away from Hoddle too. Not a moronic view,indeed a very valid one. I got it wrong on this issue. Having said that, I maintain my long held view that the biggest mistake SFC made in recent years was the failure to re-appoint Hoddle in 2004, or someone with a similar pedigree, experience and status. The appointment of Luggy was a shambolic decision that ultimately led to our relegation.
The Majestic Channon Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I'm with both of you on this. I'm convinced we'll slip up this afternoon and then go on a dreadful run that will see us finish 3rd and then fail to go up in the play offs. Why ? What more convincing do weirdo's like you need????
Window Cleaner Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Not a moronic view,indeed a very valid one. I got it wrong on this issue. Having said that, I maintain my long held view that the biggest mistake SFC made in recent years was the failure to re-appoint Hoddle in 2004, or someone with a similar pedigree, experience and status. The appointment of Luggy was a shambolic decision that ultimately led to our relegation. Getting it wrong is one thing, carrying on and on and on about it long after it became evident that it wasn't going to happen was just moronic but as most assumed it was just trolling no-one took any notice.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Getting it wrong is one thing, carrying on and on and on about it long after it became evident that it wasn't going to happen was just moronic but as most assumed it was just trolling no-one took any notice. There are two issues on this post, which do you mean ?
Window Cleaner Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 There are two issues on this post, which do you mean ? Both of them actually but more specifically the former.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Both of them actually but more specifically the former. I admit now that I got it wrong about 17th. However, the decision in 2004 to appoint Sturrock as being a disaster I stand by.
Avenue Saint Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Why ? What more convincing do weirdo's like you need???? He's a fishy one that one, thought everyone knew....
supersonic Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 West Ham will be just 3 points behind us come 8pm next saturday
Minsk Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Have to say I got that wrong. Well done for, finally, admitting it!! P.S. I was probably one of the few who would have welcomed Hoddle back; but am now fully convinced that Adkins is a far superior manager!!!!!
Minsk Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 West Ham will be just 3 points behind us come 8pm next saturday Personally, I think they will screw up one (if not both) of the next two games they are due to play.
beatlesaint Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 West Ham will be just 3 points behind us come 8pm next saturday Well IF that happens then Reading, in third, will still be 5 points behind with an inferior goal difference.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 Personally, I think they will screw up one (if not both) of the next two games they are due to play. The game against Posh is immense, anything but a win and they will begin to doubt automatic.
Minsk Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 (edited) The game against Posh is immense, anything but a win and they will begin to doubt automatic. Now you are trolling, again!! (In case of any doubt, I fully agree with you.) Edited 24 March, 2012 by Minsk
saints-cris Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 I think West Ham will beat Posh, but lose to Reading. They are chokers at home and the crowd will be on them right away.
pedg Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 The game against Posh is immense, anything but a win and they will begin to doubt automatic. It will be a critical week ahead for the hammers. Their game in hand on Tuesday against a posh side who recently beat Reading 3-1 followed by the match against Reading. Going to be more than one twitchy person in London this week.
SaintBobby Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 West Ham are fading at just the wrong time (from their perspective). The term "must win" if over-used. But if they don't beat Reading, their chances of automatic promotion start looking pretty feeble.
bender Posted 24 March, 2012 Posted 24 March, 2012 If Wham dont win on Tuesday then were up for my money If they do only draw on Tuesday and beat Reading on Saturday, they go 2nd which will be a huge boost for them. This would put us 5 points ahead of both of them going into the evening game at Blackpool. It is possible for us not to go up but there are so many ifs that would have to happen, I just cant see it, especially with Readings remaining away games.
Dark Munster Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 I admit now that I got it wrong about 17th. However, the decision in 2004 to sack Sturrock and appoint Wigley as being a disaster I stand by. There, I've corrected it for you.
Dark Munster Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 I'm with both of you on this. I'm convinced we'll slip up this afternoon and then go on a dreadful run that will see us finish 3rd and then fail to go up in the play offs. Back in December I started a thread in which I said I didn't see Saints going up automatically. I pointed out that our poor away form did little to suggest we'd get anything away from home at the likes of Boro, WHU, Brum & Blackpool. Why would anybody think we could win these games when we can't beat Bristol City or Doncaster? I received a host of abusive private messages for expressing my opinion and my reasons behind it. Eventually the thread was removed by the mods. I'm just wondering if anybody has now grasped what I was trying to say? Too many injuries, tricky away fixtures, no sign of any quality signings and now our home form has hit a slump. When will people realise that we are not going up automatically??? :lol:
The Majestic Channon Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 He's a fishy one that one, thought everyone knew.... That would explain it Also confirms his weirdo status
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 I am absolutely certain that we will finish closer to 1st than 17th!!! 1st, since our 'blip' when no other team really took advantage I have felt this. Definitely not 17th! Have to say I got that wrong. No sh!t Sherlock! Never mind mate, stick with it but you'll also be wrong next season.
The Kraken Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 If Cestrian Saint isn't on a wind-up then he's either massively stupid, a bit mixed up in the head or just has a enormously misplaced air of arrogance. "When will people realise we're not going up" indeed. What a thoroughly ridiculous suggestion to present as fact.
david in sweden Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 (edited) from a 50 year fan who started supporting Saints when they were in Division 3 (the first time around ). It's football, its a game ! Sorry Mr.Shankley it's not more important than life and death. Some people are worrying that we won't get promoted. Others are worried in case we do! . IF we go up, we won't be a success - or if we do it will only be short-lived ..and then we'll be relegated again. The Liebherr family will lose interest and sell us off to some Russian oil mogul, or a mafia -type... STOP! GET A LIFE ...it's only a game, and people are dying in Africa. Listen to Nigel Adkins. We take ONE GAME AT A TIME...OK? Edited 25 March, 2012 by david in sweden
SaintBobby Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 from a 50 year fan who started supporting Saints when they were in Division 3 (the first time around ). It's football, its a game ! Sorry Mr.Shankley it's not more important than life and death. Some people are worrying that we won't get promoted. Others are worried in case we do! . IF we go up, we won't be a success - or if we do it will only be short-lived ..and then we'll be relegated again. The Liebherr family will lose interest and sell us off to some Russian oil mogul, or a mafia -type... STOP! GET A LIFE ...it's only a game, and people are dying in Africa. Listen to Nigel Adkins. We take ONE GAME AT A TIME...OK? Wtf? Should we only discuss starvation in Africa on this forum from now on because it's more important. Of course it's only a game. But this forum exists for people who treat that game as something of an obsession. Is that okay with you?
david in sweden Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 Wtf? Should we only discuss starvation in Africa on this forum from now on because it's more important. Of course it's only a game. But this forum exists for people who treat that game as something of an obsession. Is that okay with you? I'm not looking to discuss starvation in Africa ..I'll delete that part if that offends you - and don't you think Saints are an obsession for me ..after 50 years?...but we have to be philosophical at the same time. I just think we ought to keep some sense of proportion - don't you ?
SaintBobby Posted 25 March, 2012 Posted 25 March, 2012 I'm not looking to discuss starvation in Africa ..I'll delete that part if that offends you - and don't you think Saints are an obsession for me ..after 50 years?...but we have to be philosophical at the same time. I just think we ought to keep some sense of proportion - don't you ? I think virtually everyone on here does have some sense of proportion. It's a hobby/pastime/obsession we are all pretty addicted to. I'm delighted Nigel and the team are taking it "one game at a time". But most fans don't. I'm looking at all the remaining games as something as a batch rather than thinking only about our chances against Blackpool. Obviously, anyone who has filled in the BBC predictor isn't taking it one game at a time really, are they?
Stud mark of doom Posted 26 March, 2012 Posted 26 March, 2012 There is a long way to go yet with some tough games. Will go to the last day We will be promoted on the...... 17th.
david in sweden Posted 26 March, 2012 Posted 26 March, 2012 I think virtually everyone on here does have some sense of proportion. It's a hobby/pastime/obsession we are all pretty addicted to. I'm delighted Nigel and the team are taking it "one game at a time". But most fans don't. I'm looking at all the remaining games as something as a batch rather than thinking only about our chances against Blackpool. Obviously, anyone who has filled in the BBC predictor isn't taking it one game at a time really, are they? ------------------------------------------------------------ I think we're on the same wavelength, but having grown up with the fateful story of 1948/9 (nicely highlighted on here last week) I've always tried to concentrate on one match at a time, something that has haunted us a bit this season. I don't think that anyone thought we would go unbeaten the whole season (JOKE ), but after our whirlwind start and especially the results v. Leeds, Ipswich, Brum, Wham and Middboro'...who'd thought we would have come unstuck against Brizzle (TWICE) and Donnie (OK, I know Billy got their goal that day). Definitely, some humbling moments and a caution to keep feet firmly on the ground, which is why - with some reservations - I feel a little more concerned about our remaining home fixtures - rather than the aways. Staying focussed seems to be another favourite Adkins-ism that we might all do well to remember. I agree that the (type of) BBC Predictor can be a dangerous tool in the hands of some of the " chicken-counters " on the site.
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