Ian the Red Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 Looking at the games we, Reading and WHU have to play, I think that 4 wins will give us promotion, 5 wins, 90pts and possible the title. COYR Saints: Doncaster (H) Blackpool (A) Skates (H) Palace (A) Reading (H) Peterborough (A) Borro (A) Coventry (H) Reading Blackpool (H) WHU (A) Leeds (H) Brighton (A) Saints (A) Forrest (H) Palace (H) Birmingham (A) WHU Burnley (A) Peterborough (A) Reading (H) Barnsley (A) Birmingham (H) Brighton (H) Bristol (A) Leicester (A) Hull (H) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 I was thinking that 3 of our last 4 games look tough and I'd like to see us get it done by then...... but then I looked at Reading's run-in. Jeez that's tough. 6 difficult games there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 Mathematically at this moment we need 95 points (assuming a better GD) to win the title. West Ham can get 95, Reading can get 94. We need 92 points (w/ superior GD) to guarantee promotion - because Reading play West Ham and they can't both win (leaving WH max 92 and Reading's 91 depending on who loses, or 93 and 92 max if they draw). As it stands the best result for our promotion chances is for West Ham to beat Reading because then we'd only need to get 91 points, we'd need 92 if they drew (which we could still get even by losing to Reading). Best bit ? This is based on them winning every other match, so every single point Reading or West Ham drop will bring that total down. But as it stands, 6 wins 2 draws or better for the title, and 5 wins 2 draws for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 Someone else beat you to it on the other thread The9... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 I see us slipping up a bit but then winning the last 3 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 I can see it now; We're going to need to win on the last day of the season, everyone will carry on as if victory is a given and we'll go and lose, thus dropping out of the top 2 for the one and only time this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 I can see it now; We're going to need to win on the last day of the season, everyone will carry on as if victory is a given and we'll go and lose, thus dropping out of the top 2 for the one and only time this season.shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh The difference between Saints and W-Ham fans. West Ham top the table for the first time: "wooo champions! Let's book a boat... No... Wait! 2 boats! " Saints top the table for almost all of the season: "Right... When are we going to feck this up?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 Someone else beat you to it on the other thread The9... Was me too, wasn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 21 March, 2012 Share Posted 21 March, 2012 I can see it now; We're going to need to win on the last day of the season, everyone will carry on as if victory is a given and we'll go and lose, thus dropping out of the top 2 for the one and only time this season. You are an optimistic sod arent ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 You are an optimistic sod arent ya? Always expect disappointment, that way anything else is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 22 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 22 March, 2012 Cant see Reading getting anymore than 85pts and WHU will have done well to get 18pts from their remaining 9 games. So IMO all we need is to reach 87 pts, so that'll be at Palace, so party time on Easter Monday!! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 If we can beat Doncaster on Saturday then Blackpool away becomes a bit of a ‘bonus card’ game. With Wham and Reading playing each other at 3pm were going to have an opportunity to gain points on one/both when we kick off at 5.20pm and we’ll still be a good 3-5 points clear of 2nd or 3rd depending on their results. Obviously assuming we beat Donnie on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 Looking at the games we, Reading and WHU have to play, I think that 4 wins will give us promotion, 5 wins, 90pts and possible the title. COYR Saints: Doncaster (H) Blackpool (A) Skates (H) Palace (A) Reading (H) Peterborough (A) Borro (A) Coventry (H) Reading Blackpool (H) WHU (A) Leeds (H) Brighton (A) Saints (A) Forrest (H) Palace (H) Birmingham (A) WHU Burnley (A) Peterborough (A) Reading (H) Barnsley (A) Birmingham (H) Brighton (H) Bristol (A) Leicester (A) Hull (H) On paper. Can only see west ham dropping points away to peterborough and Leicester, whilst perhaps sharing the spoils v reading at home! 89points total? With us, being conservative, I'd like to think we can get 14 points, leaving us also on 89! Reading, well, looking at their run in, lol they're screwed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 I thought that we might slip up at Hull. Having won that one, I am happier with our away form now. I think that the team is being well managed, and while others around us are having a wobble, we seem to be picking up form again. Hopefully that will continue to the end. The bookies certainly think so, as our odds are 1/3. On paper our home games only has Reading to cause a problem, but throw in a derby and the form book becomes irrelevant. Reading is tough, and if they lose to both us and WHU, I think that's that. All their games have a lot of importance for their opponents. Maybe Palace might not as they may be too far adrift for a play off place. Forest of course are trying to avoid relegation, and anyone who can put 7 past Leeds......! Shame that WHU don't have more home games. 3 of their away games are aganist opponents with nothing really to lose or gain. Maybe that allows them to play more freely, but I wouldn't want Reading, Brum, Leicester or Hull in my final lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 I actually think our key game is this Saturday against Doncastor if we win that and keep the gap to Reading & Wham it really piles the pressure on the two of them for the following Saturday and IMHO whichever of them loose would be destined for third , We also will know that result before playing Blackpool where I think a draw would be a great result......................... But as I say Doncastor IS a must win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 I actually think our key game is this Saturday against Doncastor if we win that and keep the gap to Reading & Wham it really piles the pressure on the two of them for the following Saturday and IMHO whichever of them loose would be destined for third , We also will know that result before playing Blackpool where I think a draw would be a great result......................... But as I say Doncastor IS a must win I agree. If we keep the gap the same going into next weekend then the pressure is really on the others and it becomes a massive "must win" for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 I have posted this elsewhere (on the reaction to the Hull game thread) but thought it worth posting it here. The table shows my predictions for the three top teams in their final fixtures and their cumulative points after each match. At the top I have also indicated their current points score: [table] [tr] [td]Saints[/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td]75[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Reading[/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td]70[/td] [td] [/td] [td]West Ham[/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td]68[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Doncaster[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]78[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Blackpool[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]73[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Burnley[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]69[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td] [/td] [td]Peterboro[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]70[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Blackpool[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Lose[/td] [td]78[/td] [td] [/td] [td]West Ham[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]74[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Reading[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]71[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Pompey[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]81[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Leeds[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]77[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Barnsley[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]74[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]C.Palace[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]82[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Brighton[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Lose[/td] [td]77[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Birmingham[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]77[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Reading[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]83[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Saints[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]78[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Brighton[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]80[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Peterboro[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]84[/td] [td] [/td] [td]N.Forest[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]81[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Bristol City[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]83[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Middlesbro[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]85[/td] [td] [/td] [td]C.Palace[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]84[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Leicester City[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]84[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Coventry City[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]88[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Birmingham[/td] [td](A)[/td] [td]Draw[/td] [td]85[/td] [td] [/td] [td]Hull City[/td] [td](H)[/td] [td]Win[/td] [td]87[/td] [/tr] [/table] I have been a little pessimistic for the Saints results (I certainly hope that we can beat M'bro as I am going to that match and rather hoping it will be a bit of a promotion/champions party!) Nevertheless, despite my pessimistic forecasts, these results would still place Saints top with West Ham second and Reading third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 (edited) I actually think our key game is this Saturday against Doncastor if we win that and keep the gap to Reading & Wham it really piles the pressure on the two of them for the following Saturday and IMHO whichever of them loose would be destined for third , We also will know that result before playing Blackpool where I think a draw would be a great result......................... But as I say Doncastor IS a must win There are also midweek matches next week for some teams, if West Ham happened to lose at Burnley and Peterborough they could be 10 points behind us without a game in hand. Of course, they could also be a point behind us. Edited 22 March, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 There are also midweek matches next week for some teams. West Ham play their game in hand at Posh next midweek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 We are as good as up, 3 wins and 2 draws will be enough and we will exceed that easily in our remaining games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintneilo84 Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 IMO if we beat Reading we will get promoted not going to be easy but can't see Reading winning the remaining of their games especially as they have to play both us and WH I think 5 wins out of the last 8 has us as champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 IMO if we beat Reading we will get promoted not going to be easy but can't see Reading winning the remaining of their games especially as they have to play both us and WH I think 5 wins out of the last 8 has us as champions. that would depend which Reading turns up though, the one that tonked Barnsley 4-0 or the one that wasn't very impressive against Peterborough.If Birmingham need points for the play-off places on final day I wouldn't over fancy Reading's chances there. Still think West Ham will beat them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 West Ham play their game in hand at Posh next midweek. There again it depends which Posh turn up doesn't it.Hope it's the Mr Hyde version leaving us with the Dr Jekyll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 I actually think our key game is this Saturday against Doncastor if we win that and keep the gap to Reading & Wham it really piles the pressure on the two of them for the following Saturday and IMHO whichever of them loose would be destined for third , We also will know that result before playing Blackpool where I think a draw would be a great result......................... But as I say Doncastor IS a must win I agree. For me, the home 'bankers' against the bottom 3 is what will basically see us home. And with next weeks huge game between 2nd and 3rd, it could look pretty rosey for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 If... IF - we go up, I'm really looking forward to one particular thing; reclaiming "OWTS" from Spurs and Stoke... Have to say though, they do a mighty fine job of belting it out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 If... IF - we go up, I'm really looking forward to one particular thing; reclaiming "OWTS" from Spurs and Stoke... Have to say though, they do a mighty fine job of belting it out though. "We've come for our song, we've come for our song, you thieving , we've come for our song.......KNOCK, KNOCK......" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 23 March, 2012 Share Posted 23 March, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 23 March, 2012 Share Posted 23 March, 2012 My (slightly pessimistic) predictions had West Ham finishing on 88 points, us on 87 and Reading on 80. I had us winning our home games vs the bottom three and drawing our game v Reading. On the road, I had us losing to Blackpool and Boro and drawing with Posh and Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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