farawaysaint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 With mounting speculation that Celtic are looking to play in the English league like Swansea and Cardiff and that tit Lennon going on about how well they'd do in the prem what are everybodys thoughts on the matter? There's even talk of them joining the league in league 1 in place of Pompey when the inevitable happens and the skates go pop for good. Personally I don't think they should get such a concession and should have to work their way through the league system like eevryone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 I think they should stick to Scotland and stick to being a club full of paedophiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Taking nationality out of the equation, a club with the global fanbase like Celtic coupled with the television money they currently lack in the Scottish League would allow Celtic to become a truly global force, unfortunately they would still lack the outright spending power of clubs like Man City and Chelsea. With good management they would certainly be top six after a couple of year spell were they would invest in their squad and depth. Purely off their own backs though promotion from the leagues (if they joined at League 2 level, which frankly should be they best way, make them climb their way up and earn it,) shouldn't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Rangers and celtic would take 5,000 minimum to every away game - i think the would add the english league and puts an end to the pointless scottish league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Rangers and celtic would take 5,000 minimum to every away game No they wouldn't. For a start a Premier League game at St Mary's between Saints and Celtic/Rangers would see them get an allocation of 3,200 max like every other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 No they wouldn't. For a start a Premier League game at St Mary's between Saints and Celtic/Rangers would see them get an allocation of 3,200 max like every other team. I said would not will!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 I think you mean "could if allowed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 18 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 18 March, 2012 I do so love when my threads are used for reasoned debate and don't devolve into petty one-upmanship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 I think they should stick to Scotland and stick to being a club full of paedophiles. Huh? The only incident I can think of recently is Craig Thomson who played for Hearts. I think Celtic would be a great addition to the Football League tbh. Big fanbase, globally recognised and if they received the same amount of money as English clubs then they could become a force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 after the big hoohaaaa about not wanting to play for a Team GB in a one off they now want to join the English leagues as it suits them...fook off is my opinion on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 after the big hoohaaaa about not wanting to play for a Team GB in a one off they now want to join the English leagues as it suits them...fook off is my opinion on this. I see a value in them being allowed to join the FL, but then when you made this point so perfectly I have to say Yes totally agree, Play for Team GB or fook off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 after the big hoohaaaa about not wanting to play for a Team GB in a one off they now want to join the English leagues as it suits them...fook off is my opinion on this. You made this point so perfectly I have to say Yes totally agree, Play for Team GB or fook off The Scottish FA and Celtic FC are separate entities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 The Scottish FA and Celtic FC are separate entities. yep you're right, but the majority of there fans I was speaking about, not many of them were in favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Just watched the first half of todays Scottish LC final and Celtic are a very ordinary side, truly Saints would thrash them (and don't even start me on Kilmarnock). Unusually for Scotland both goalies played well though. If Celtic ever got into the FL (think FIFA might have an issue with that though) their current level probably would be about mid table L2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 I don't want the IRA supporting tim bast ards anywhere near an English league. Let their Scots/Irish fan base wither and die in a pit of their own s hit. Cu nts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Just watched the first half of todays Scottish LC final and Celtic are a very ordinary side, truly Saints would thrash them (and don't even start me on Kilmarnock). Unusually for Scotland both goalies played well though. If Celtic ever got into the FL (think FIFA might have an issue with that though) their current level probably would be about mid table L2. Oh behave yourself. They've got a striker in Gary Hooper people were wetting themselves about us signing a few months ago. Jos Hooliveld couldn't get in their team who has been a star for us to name but two. They are probably a decent championship side at the moment but with their fan base, stadium and income from English football they'll be a top half premier league club quickl y. Don't want them in our league though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 (edited) Their current level probably would be about mid table League Two. What absolute nonsense that is! Although not brilliant in recent years in Europe they still get some notable results and were in the UEFA Cup final as recently as 2003, plus they have a large number of current internationals. How many League Two sides can say that? At present they could hold their own in mid table of the Premier League. If Norwich and Swansea can, so would Celtic easily. If they ever were to move into the English Leagues they would quickly establish themselves as one of the top clubs as they would be able to attract a better quality of player than they do currently with the pull of the league and all the extra TV money, sponsorship etc they would bring in. Edited 18 March, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Do not want them anywhere near the English leagues... ever. Scottish are quick enough to shout for independence for their nation (which they will probably stupid enough to vote for if Alex Salmond get his way), they don't want a Team GB at the Olympics, but they want to join our league. I live up here & I'll tell anyone that asks me that they can f uck right off... (might not be brave / stupid enough to that in Glasgae mind!!) So apart from the hypocrisy, the lower league clubs would be stupid to vote for it - they would have one payday before Celtic get to the Championship, it may take them a few seasons to get through the Championship but once in the PL, their natural size will mean they should be able to stay there - so English clubs will lose out. I also would doubt if FIFA would allow it - the first good thing FIFA would have done for a while. And anyway, they can't complain that the Scottish League is too easy for them if Rangers go pop - they couldn't beat Kilmarnock this afternoon in the Scottish League Cup Final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 I don't want the IRA supporting tim bast ards anywhere near an English league. Let their Scots/Irish fan base wither and die in a pit of their own s hit. Cu nts. This. Also, having witness Celtic fans on an away day beanie in Manchester, I wouldnt even wish that on the w*nkers down the East end of the M27 (well, maybe I would). Celtic fans f**king hate the English, they just want a piece of the TV rights pie. Actually its actually a bit like Pie-Face Salmond not actually wanting Scottish independence, but wants to sh*t stirr enough to get even more subsidy from England. Oh, and for the person who tried to distinguish between Glasgow Celtic FC and the Scottish FA who dont support the Team GB concept for the Olympics, do you REALLY think any self-respecting Celtic fan disagrees with the Scottish FA on this ?? Fook em. Let them go under with the rest of the totally w*nk Scottish footbal set up (actually RFU aint much better is it ? Even Italy beat them regularly now) Fook Scotland, the place is propped up by the English and is due a rude awakening when we cut them adrift. One final point. Well done Kilmarnock for making them look like pr*cks today. They can keep Gary Hooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 From a fan's point of view, imagine the trouble when they came to town! and Imagine having to go to f*cking Glasgow on a Tuesday night in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 From a fan's point of view' date=' imagine the trouble when they came to town! and Imagine having to go to f*cking Glasgow on a Tuesday night in November.[/quote'] no worse than a burnley, oldham etc.. infact, much easier to get to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Maybe they could relocate Portsmouth to Glasgow and call themselves Glasgow Portsmouth and start next season in League 1. Then after 2 or 3 years, just drop the Portsmouth part of their name. Could never happen though....could it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Dunlop Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Independence - they want it....enjoy the SPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 no worse than a burnley, oldham etc.. infact, much easier to get to Wait..what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 The Scottish FA and Celtic FC are separate entities. ORLY? Wow, never knew that. Thanks for pointing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 Wait..what? Think he's probably referring to the fact that Glasgow has an airport. But anyway, Celtic bleating about wanting to join the EPL is a bit rich given the history and the immediate future. The Scottish FA have always been ready to nix anything that might mean that they gain a British team at the expense of their own irrelevance. The question of independence means that there has never been a less suitable time to discuss Celtic's entry into the EPL, although I'd imagine Ranger's demise has much to do with the timing. Ironically, and despite the inherent tribalism, I've always seen football as a unifying force. Who knows what might have happened had they sorted all this out years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 I don't want the IRA supporting tim bast ards anywhere near an English league. Let their Scots/Irish fan base wither and die in a pit of their own s hit. Cu nts. Did you put your racist head on today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 Bo!!ox to them, Why don't we let PSG and Ajax is as well. They Would probably vote for Scottish Independence as well when it comes to it, so foook 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 Bo!!ox to them, Why don't we let PSG and Ajax is as well. They Would probably vote for Scottish Independence as well when it comes to it, so foook 'em. Choice. Weekend Away day to Amsterdam or Glasgow? No brainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 What absolute nonsense that is! Although not brilliant in recent years in Europe they still get some notable results and were in the UEFA Cup final as recently as 2003, plus they have a large number of current internationals. How many League Two sides can say that? At present they could hold their own in mid table of the Premier League. If Norwich and Swansea can, so would Celtic easily. If they ever were to move into the English Leagues they would quickly establish themselves as one of the top clubs as they would be able to attract a better quality of player than they do currently with the pull of the league and all the extra TV money, sponsorship etc they would bring in. That was now coming up to 9 years ago. A lot has changed, we for example were in an FA Cup final that year. But in all honesty having watched a fair few Scottish league matches on the box this year, I would say that the Scottish league is at best mid table League 1 and Celtic and Rangers would be Mid Table to Play off's in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 But they hate the English. Surely they'd want to go back to their 'roots' and try and join the Irish league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 Allow them in, but make it conditional on Scotland remaining part of the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 Allow them in, but make it conditional on Scotland remaining part of the UK. Not to turn this all political but I personally want Scotland to be independent. But independence must mean total independence as in, no money collected from the UK Government will be allowed to go towards helping Scotland's NHS / Schools / Pensions / Benefits. Lets see how they sustain themselves with the limited income of their Government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/19/football-league-celtic-league-one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 Not to turn this all political but I personally want Scotland to be independent. But independence must mean total independence as in, no money collected from the UK Government will be allowed to go towards helping Scotland's NHS / Schools / Pensions / Benefits. Lets see how they sustain themselves with the limited income of their Government http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/4951 Looking at the polls Devo max is the prefered option. Hardly surprising as the Jocks want to keep their free prescriptions and university places. I say f/ck em, give them an in or out choice. The stupid Labour party started all this mess by giving them an inch. They are taking the English for a ride and it's got to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 20 March, 2012 Share Posted 20 March, 2012 This is the English football leagues for English clubs. I'd go further and dump the Welsh back over the border. And it would be like turkeys voting for Christmas if everyone agreed to them joining. Give it a few years and they'd be powerful Premier League clubs just making it even harder to win anything/get into Europe for most of us. Hurry up and give them their independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 20 March, 2012 Share Posted 20 March, 2012 This is the English football leagues for English clubs. I'd go further and dump the Welsh back over the border. And it would be like turkeys voting for Christmas if everyone agreed to them joining. Give it a few years and they'd be powerful Premier League clubs just making it even harder to win anything/get into Europe for most of us. Hurry up and give them their independence. That's why they will never join. No way in a million years would top Premier League clubs vote in two of the biggest clubs in the world into their league to steal their revenue and challenge them for Champions League places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 20 March, 2012 Share Posted 20 March, 2012 I think what we should do is scrap the league cups in both countries (because it's a nothing competition anyway) and instead have a British Cup including a place for our overseas territories that wish to enter such as the GFA. That'd be brilliant and would make for some cracking away days if we drew Gibraltar or a Northern Irish club. This arrangement would also serve to raise the profile of our overseas territories that are threatened and bolster the resolve of British people to support them and thus keep them British. Patriotism has been a dirty word for far too long and what a great way to re-instill some national pride and unity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 March, 2012 Share Posted 20 March, 2012 I think what we should do is scrap the league cups in both countries (because it's a nothing competition anyway) and instead have a British Cup including a place for our overseas territories that wish to enter such as the GFA. That'd be brilliant and would make for some cracking away days if we drew Gibraltar or a Northern Irish club. This arrangement would also serve to raise the profile of our overseas territories that are threatened and bolster the resolve of British people to support them and thus keep them British. Patriotism has been a dirty word for far too long and what a great way to re-instill some national pride and unity. Feck me, the dunebot must have had an upgrade. I was going to keep quiet but this is about the third post I've seen from you in recent days that I agree with, in spirit anyway. Credit where its due and all that. In practice, there are problems with this approach. Leaving aside the obvious disgust of Gibraltarians at being mobbed by hordes of inebriated English footy fans, football in places like Northern Ireland still carries the scars of sectarianism. While you'll get people from all communities shouting for their own favourite English side, association football teams in the North of Ireland have strong links to the Protestant part of the community. Most Catholics eschew local soccer in favour of Gaelic Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 March, 2012 Share Posted 20 March, 2012 That's why they will never join. No way in a million years would top Premier League clubs vote in two of the biggest clubs in the world into their league to steal their revenue and challenge them for Champions League places. agree lets say we were in the prem next season...earning a farming fortune.. why on earth would we want to massive clubs to join us and take two precious spaces.. no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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