Jonnyboy Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Looks damn good, very excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 I am struggling with the concept of this film. Is it a prequel to Alien or not ? The derelict craft containing the eggs, that Tom Skerrit, John Hurt and Sigourney Weaver and co. found in Alien, is in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 18 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Im not sure, think its a prequel. Don't want to know anymore really so I see the film with a fresh mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 19 March, 2012 Share Posted 19 March, 2012 It is and it isn't according to Ridley Scott. Has more of a Bladerunner vibe running through it although set very much in the 'Alien' universe. I'm intrigued to find out more about the 'Space Jockeys' race of aliens that we get a peek of in the Alien film. The whole production has been shrouded in the utmost secrecy. Can not bloody wait to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 Extended trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhQe8V8IXc&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 22 March, 2012 Share Posted 22 March, 2012 Breakdown of the trailer here: http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 2 April, 2012 Share Posted 2 April, 2012 TED Talk 2023: Man, this looks so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 2 April, 2012 Share Posted 2 April, 2012 Breakdown of the trailer here: http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2 Yeah, that is quite a breakdown. I Stopped reading before the end. Would prefer to go in to this unprepared.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonswan Posted 2 June, 2012 Share Posted 2 June, 2012 I saw this at IMAX Southampton last night. First time I've seen a 3D movie. Not a fan of 3D having experienced it. Glasses make the periphery fuzzy. The IMAX sound system totally rocks though. Superb body shaking bass. I've read reports that the film "asks more questions than it answers". I can translate that for you. It's a mess. The best acting in the whole film is by the ship's robot. I really had given up caring what happened to anybody else by about an hour in (half way). There's a strong suggestion in the film that Christianity saved humanity from destruction. WTF?! Why?! Was that really necessary? Yawn!! Remember the rediculous alien in Alien IV. There's another one here as well. But thankfully only for a minute, and it is very peripheral to the main plot. Sad to say, but Alien v Predator is a much better film. Wait for it to come out on DVD. Special effects/sound are pretty good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 2 June, 2012 Share Posted 2 June, 2012 I pretty much agree with everything in the post above although I didn't pick up on the Christianity saving humanity bit. As far as I can remember there is absolutely no explanation for anything that happens in the film which left me walking out of the cinema at the end wondering WTF had just happened. Why was Guy Pearce cast as an old man? Surely you just cast an actual elderly person for that role? It looked absolutely beautiful though and some of the space scenes completely blew me away. I'm guessing a sequel will clear a lot of the story up but to leave so many questions left me feeling slightly empty at the end 7.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonswan Posted 2 June, 2012 Share Posted 2 June, 2012 SPOILER ALERT: Re the Christianity saving humanity I picked this up (incorrectly?) because - they dated the space jockey body they found at 2000 years old - the crew determined that the space jockeys were tasked with destroying humanity but then changed their minds - such a big deal was made about the crucifix necklace that the female anthropologist wore (robot took it off her, she made a point of getting it back) The most annoying plot holes/devices - the holographic replays of the space jockeys including where one is decapitated. No explanation for this. Just a really, really, really lazy plot device to introduce the SJ themselves. - isn't it amazing the physical jerks you can get up to after having a cesarian section? My eyes were rolling in my sockets here. - what on earth was the point of the opening sequence of a space jockey drinking the black liquid and falling over the waterfall? You know what, I don't care. 3D execution As I said I'm not particularly experienced with 3D, but using the 3D spiderman advert that was on before the film for comparison I'd say it was very well done. The spiderman advert showed just how bad 3D can be. Garish, pointless movement outside the screen and 2D cardboard cut-outs behind it. Euch. In contrast, most of Prometheus seemed to be 2D (or so subtly 3D that you didn't notice it - so why bother), with the effects only being used where there was an impact to be gained - like the 3D star charts inside the space-ship. Very well done. Shame I just couldn't get on with the glasses themselves (I wear specs anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 June, 2012 Share Posted 2 June, 2012 (edited) what on earth was the point of the opening sequence of a space jockey drinking the black liquid and falling over the waterfall? You know what, I don't care. I interpreted that as the initial seeding of Earth with the Engineer's genetic material, therefore the trigger point for the creation of humanity. It's not a perfect film but it appealed to the sci-fi fanboy in me that wanted to see some kind of set-up for the Alien films. The Aliens being a bi-product of the biological warfare that the Engineers wanted to unleash against their own creation was quite an intersting take on things. Elizabeth Shaw gaving birth to the mother of all facehuggers.... Yeah, a C-section would be the prefered route. Ubergeek Alert: The Space Jockey found in the first Alien film was on LV-426, LV-223 is the location for Prometheus. Therefore the crashed ship and chest-burst Jockey in the first film is unconnected to this. Edited 2 June, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 10 June, 2012 Share Posted 10 June, 2012 Visually breathtaking - beautifully shot and setting/backdrops were superb. The whole visual feel to it is amazing. The plot, scripting and characters though, lacked. What happened??! Was hoping Ridley Scott would have injected some umpf into the characters - all (other than Fassbender) lacked the gritty realism that Ripley et al offered in Alien. The mysticism of the Space Jockeys that we got a glimpse of in Alien did not live up to their billing for me. Yes, they are supreme beings responsible for mankind, but I was disappointed that underneath the elephant type masks, they were in fact, merely, Blue Man Group. Maybe I'm wanting another perfect Alien film and my expectations were too high, but this film frustrated me. I wanted to love it. The LV-426/223 discrepancy*, Shaw ****ing off in search of something and the unanswered questions/holes point toward a future sequel. I hope we get it. 7.5/10 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 I saw this last week, thought it was alright. Characters were a bit hokey and some of the set-plays were a bit rushed (the mutant Geologist coming back to the ship to attack the crew especially, thought that could have lasted longer and been quite exciting as a plot device). I didn't quite get why Scott decided to make Idris Elba (ship captain) and Rafe Spall (goofy biologist) American, given that they're both from London. Elba was great as a Baltimore drug baron in The Wire, but making him some New Orleans ol' blues boy didn't quite work for me. Given that most of the crew were British (or pretending to be) he probably could've let them retain their accents and given their characters a bit more realism and made them more convincing. Overall I thought the film was quite good, not as bad as the fanboys make it out to be, but not great. Could've done with slightly more gore and suspense (actually thought the caesarean scene was quite tame!) and more screen time spent in the temple rather than flitting between that and the ship as often as it did. Best bits were Fassbender (calculating, slightly malevolent and cold) and Charlize Theron (although side plot with daddy issues not really that neccessary). I'm not overly enthusiastic about a sequel (another prequel or parallel to original film?) mostly because the Space Jockeys were so f*cking boring, a whole planet of them would make me want to kill myself! 6.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 - what on earth was the point of the opening sequence of a space jockey drinking the black liquid and falling over the waterfall? You know what, I don't care. I personally thought that they were testing this biological weapon on an uninhabited planet, and they didn't expect the whole evolution of life to happen as an after effect. Hence why they were coming back to rid the whole planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I have decided the whole film is a marketing ploy for the DVD/Bluray so people can listen to the commentary to try and figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I interpreted that as the initial seeding of Earth with the Engineer's genetic material, therefore the trigger point for the creation of humanity. It's not a perfect film but it appealed to the sci-fi fanboy in me that wanted to see some kind of set-up for the Alien films. The Aliens being a bi-product of the biological warfare that the Engineers wanted to unleash against their own creation was quite an intersting take on things. Elizabeth Shaw gaving birth to the mother of all facehuggers.... Yeah, a C-section would be the prefered route. Ubergeek Alert: The Space Jockey found in the first Alien film was on LV-426, LV-223 is the location for Prometheus. Therefore the crashed ship and chest-burst Jockey in the first film is unconnected to this. Like this, hadnt thought of that, Finally saw it last Sunday, 7.35/10, flawed but very compelling. I like having questions to think about. What is the best reason anyone can give for the android putting the material into the scientist? Did he want to just see what happened? Did he think she'd get pregnant etc etc? Also, the way the ship falls at the end implies its the same ship as from Alien and therefore the same planet??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 21 June, 2012 Share Posted 21 June, 2012 and an afterthought...I love how they still use tarpaulin in 60 years time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Also, the way the ship falls at the end implies its the same ship as from Alien and therefore the same planet??? It's clearly a different planet. It's name is different, the space jockey meets his death differently - there is no dead chest bursted jockey in the pilot seat at the end of Prmoethius. But yes, the action is clearly meant to look as though it is the same crashed ship in Alien. Why? Maybe just a device to remind the audience there is a connection between the films? What is the best reason anyone can give for the android putting the material into the scientist? Did he want to just see what happened? Did he think she'd get pregnant etc etc? No idea, could be many things. - He disliked Holloway for demeaning him - Weyland instructed him to - maybe in an attempt to prolong his life if the results were good - Breaking his protocols...Wanted to play god himself...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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