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No it was the ref that went off; the linesman came on for the injured ref and the sub lino took over the line. Possibly the best substitution all game.

The appointed ref was Fred Graham - short-arsed useless blind idiot for 80 minutes of games.

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Appointments/0,,10794~2642812,00.html

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The ref that gave the pens was Fred Graham - top bloke, great eyesight, brave, spot on fella.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17323938

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I'm more confident about Tuesday because Hull play football under Barmby, although I'm sure their pitch will be equally bobbly!

their pitch is like a ploughed field, or as Paul Jewell puts it, a joke of a pitch

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/hull_city_s_joke_of_a_pitch_was_behind_my_team_selection_says_ipswich_town_boss_after_2_2_comeback_draw_1_1233655

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I am certain the left hand lino came on for the injured ref and the female forth official came on for the left hand lino. can anyone confirm the result if the great ref debate.
every single news report has the ref who made the decisions as Graham.

 

The gallery on the Saints website shows in picture 41 a very small ref, picture 48 shows him in full, but you need good eyesight.

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With Hammond and Chaplow both off the pace once Millwall settled they simply swamped midfield stopping us play and also stopping our fullbacks from getting forward, thus hitting long diagonals.

 

It also meant that the gap between our midfield and the front two was too much for loose balls to be picked up.

 

Their CF has caused us no end of problems this season and it's the 1st time I've seen both CBs pulled all over the park leaving big gaps for the runners from midfield.

 

That said, we won with two nailed on pens and that was the best "mental" I've been involved in for quite a while.

 

I love our club and, IMHO, we are 5 wins away from promotion.

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Cheers for that FF. A good read.

 

P.s. whereabouts in borough market is The Rake? Worked down that way for 15 years but not heard of that one. Must be new-ish

 

It's literally attached to the Jubilee market very near the cathedral in Winchester Walk - it's a very small pub but the bitter is brewed on site I believe and was excellent.

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My opinion for what it is worth

 

After Saints' last away game (at Leeds) the West Yorkshire Post likened our

back-to-the-wall smash-and-grab victory to one of highwayman **** Turpin's

hold ups - and it went on to say that he had at least had the decency to

wear a mask. It was a fair view nicely made.

 

Well after another smash and grab raid, this time in East London yesterday,

Gawd knows how the South Bermondsey Gazette is going to handle the match

report. Unlike the Leeds game, where at times our defending was heroic, this

was nothing of the sort and most of us at the New Den would have, after an

hour's play, snatched a hand off had it offered us a point.

 

We started brightly and were very dominant and I could see another Watford

type performance where we had cruised to a fine routine win but no. After

Lambert's opener which looked way too easy, we suddenly and inexplicably

retreated into our shells and let Millwall take the game by the scruff of

the neck. They scored two goals through sloppy defending and harried us into

making a succession of errors all over the pitch.

 

Chaplow was at "sixes and sevens" and I think Adkins's decision to rest him

after Leeds was a wrong one - he needed games not rest and his rustiness was

so evident in the first 45mins it was inevitable he would make way for De

Ridder, who did at least give us the pace we had so lacked in the opening

half. But the second period was basically more of the same with Richardson

back to his worst, frustratingly over hitting cross after cross and Fox not

doing much better. Hammond was woeful too and I was pleased to see the

rotund Sharp come on after an hour, but he has flattered to deceive so far

in a red and white shirt and did nothing to excite yesterday. Lee was being

missed!

 

But then a small miracle. In the 84th minute, when all seemed lost, Sharp

was found in a good position and had half a chance to get in a shot, but

perhaps lacking confidence he squared the ball back to the onrushing Lambert

who managed to get himself tripped up for a pen. While he dusted himself off

it was a nervous wait for us fans behind the goal facing him, as we knew

this would probably be our only chance of a point we frankly did not

deserve. Rickie has got to miss a pen one day but thank God this time was

not to be it, as he placed it well away from the ex-Saints goalie, Maik

Taylor. Could we hold on for this unexpected and undeserved point?

 

In the 88th minute we had a corner and as Fox lumped the ball across

Hooiveld jumped and missed but there was a hand waving in the air and when

the ball hit it, the referee (who had started the game as linesman only to

take over when the originally ref picked up an injury) had no hesitation in

pointing to the spot. Cue Millwall players and fans uniting in uproar. The

opinion around me was split as to whose hand it was - some said it was

Hooiveld's but I thought it was a hand that was sticking out of a dark blue

shirt (why do Millwall now play in dark blue) and the ref had got it right.

Again there was some nervous few seconds as Lambert composed himself and

this time he hit the ball centrally, but had persuaded Taylor to dive out of

the way. The Saints' fans were ecstatic especially as news had just come

through that West Ham had fallen behind at Elland Road. The home supporters

were gutted and very irate as can be imagined and I wouldn't have liked to

have encountered any of the ones that were mocked and jeered as they

departed by the delighted Saints fans at the final whistle. Not that there

was much chance of that as the route back to the train station is a bit like

the Berlin tunnel and is about as heavily guarded. We had found a brilliant

little real ale pub in Borough Market called the Rake before the game and,

over a post-match pint, opinion was we had just got out of gaol.

 

It is good to win dirty and it is a sign that maybe the Gods are smiling on

us but I would be more confident if we were looking a bit more cohesive as

we approach the final run in. Yesterday not one player was better than

average (perhaps Lambert and Do Prado should be excused any criticism) and

most were below par. We will not get away with such an under par performance

at Hull.

 

Thanks for this - but where is the Berlin Tunnel?

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Don't let the result paper over the cracks of this shocking performance!

 

Yes, it was incredible to be there. But our midfield after the first ten minutes was woeful - it lacked any semblence of control. I don't think the pitch helped but there was none of the patient, sensible build up that has been the hallmark of our season. Most passes were received at chest height and nearly no balls were played in front of the receiving players.

 

Hammond simply does not work with Morgan. Lallana and Fox did not link up effectively - they looked like strangers for most of the game. Both full backs failed to overlap sufficiently to create any width. And the final delivery was again hopeless on most occasions.

 

It seems it won't matter because someone up there wants us to go up. Thank God they do!

 

Two more things:

 

1. Thank you again Kelvin for the TWO saves at 2-1 that kept us in it - even though they only showed the second on the telly.

 

2. Billy Sharp - buy some STUDS son! ;)

 

Think it was more than the first 10 mins. I thought we were in complete control until they fortunately went ahead - only then did we come unstuck. Midfield, even with a sub-par Chaplow, was fine.

 

Hammond is a limited footballer, especially when we are on the ball and need to create something but was good yesterday. We missed him after he went off and looked much less compact.

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Edit: deleted picture in light of subsequent events

 

 

My respects. But dont be hard on yourself, you werent to know.

 

Pity we cannot edit out the quoting. Maybe the mods could simply delete the first couple of pages or so of this thread. Everyone stopped quoting it when the news broke.

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It's literally attached to the Jubilee market very near the cathedral in Winchester Walk - it's a very small pub but the bitter is brewed on site I believe and was excellent.

 

Ah, yep....think I know the one....been there before....didn't know it was called 'the rake' although, to be honest, it was usually an end of night port of call so the memory glands wouldn't be too awake...!

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My opinion for what it is worth

 

After Saints' last away game (at Leeds) the West Yorkshire Post likened our

back-to-the-wall smash-and-grab victory to one of highwayman **** Turpin's

hold ups - and it went on to say that he had at least had the decency to

wear a mask. It was a fair view nicely made.

 

Well after another smash and grab raid, this time in East London yesterday,

Gawd knows how the South Bermondsey Gazette is going to handle the match

report. Unlike the Leeds game, where at times our defending was heroic, this

was nothing of the sort and most of us at the New Den would have, after an

hour's play, snatched a hand off had it offered us a point.

 

We started brightly and were very dominant and I could see another Watford

type performance where we had cruised to a fine routine win but no. After

Lambert's opener which looked way too easy, we suddenly and inexplicably

retreated into our shells and let Millwall take the game by the scruff of

the neck. They scored two goals through sloppy defending and harried us into

making a succession of errors all over the pitch.

 

Chaplow was at "sixes and sevens" and I think Adkins's decision to rest him

after Leeds was a wrong one - he needed games not rest and his rustiness was

so evident in the first 45mins it was inevitable he would make way for De

Ridder, who did at least give us the pace we had so lacked in the opening

half. But the second period was basically more of the same with Richardson

back to his worst, frustratingly over hitting cross after cross and Fox not

doing much better. Hammond was woeful too and I was pleased to see the

rotund Sharp come on after an hour, but he has flattered to deceive so far

in a red and white shirt and did nothing to excite yesterday. Lee was being

missed!

 

But then a small miracle. In the 84th minute, when all seemed lost, Sharp

was found in a good position and had half a chance to get in a shot, but

perhaps lacking confidence he squared the ball back to the onrushing Lambert

who managed to get himself tripped up for a pen. While he dusted himself off

it was a nervous wait for us fans behind the goal facing him, as we knew

this would probably be our only chance of a point we frankly did not

deserve. Rickie has got to miss a pen one day but thank God this time was

not to be it, as he placed it well away from the ex-Saints goalie, Maik

Taylor. Could we hold on for this unexpected and undeserved point?

 

In the 88th minute we had a corner and as Fox lumped the ball across

Hooiveld jumped and missed but there was a hand waving in the air and when

the ball hit it, the referee (who had started the game as linesman only to

take over when the originally ref picked up an injury) had no hesitation in

pointing to the spot. Cue Millwall players and fans uniting in uproar. The

opinion around me was split as to whose hand it was - some said it was

Hooiveld's but I thought it was a hand that was sticking out of a dark blue

shirt (why do Millwall now play in dark blue) and the ref had got it right.

Again there was some nervous few seconds as Lambert composed himself and

this time he hit the ball centrally, but had persuaded Taylor to dive out of

the way. The Saints' fans were ecstatic especially as news had just come

through that West Ham had fallen behind at Elland Road. The home supporters

were gutted and very irate as can be imagined and I wouldn't have liked to

have encountered any of the ones that were mocked and jeered as they

departed by the delighted Saints fans at the final whistle. Not that there

was much chance of that as the route back to the train station is a bit like

the Berlin tunnel and is about as heavily guarded. We had found a brilliant

little real ale pub in Borough Market called the Rake before the game and,

over a post-match pint, opinion was we had just got out of gaol.

 

It is good to win dirty and it is a sign that maybe the Gods are smiling on

us but I would be more confident if we were looking a bit more cohesive as

we approach the final run in. Yesterday not one player was better than

average (perhaps Lambert and Do Prado should be excused any criticism) and

most were below par. We will not get away with such an under par performance

at Hull.

 

Interestingly the player didn't react and the centre back looked at him and shrugged his shoulders in a sort of 'what did you do that for' way.

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Did anyone notice AL strop off after being substituted? Pulled his hand away when Adkins shook it and threw the coat given to him on the floor. Bit odd, given it was about the 90th minute, and it made sense to bring Cork on to help defensively in the last few minutes. Maybe just frustrated at his own performance? Second half he was anonymous (being generous with language there!).

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Did anyone notice AL strop off after being substituted? Pulled his hand away when Adkins shook it and threw the coat given to him on the floor. Bit odd, given it was about the 90th minute, and it made sense to bring Cork on to help defensively in the last few minutes. Maybe just frustrated at his own performance? Second half he was anonymous (being generous with language there!).

AL had a bit of a strop when he was pulled off against barnsley...he could not believe it

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Solent are amateurs.

 

Rule 1: Turn your phone off.

Rule 2: If you have to walk round three sides of the ground to get to the press box, why not turn round and just go the other way?

Rule 3: Play the right interview?

 

Because the away end was completely locked down, including outside.

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