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Has anyone watched the Bilbao man it'd match. They are hammering them more than Barcelona did. Insanely good. They remind me of us, or where I want us to be. More pressing. Fluid play. I truly hope that atkins watches this game and shows it to the lads every day. They have utterly dicked utd, mist be more possession. Than the Barcelona. Man utd have barely managed 3 passes. And they are brilliant to watch. They are the only team in red and white that I care to knowledge. And every player is a local for them. Beasts! 20 year olds literally smashing the crap put of utd! And doing it in style! Atkins - watch. Also their fans. The atmosphere... every stand singing and swing scarves... would love to see st mary's like that all the time. I hope this is the saints vision we hear so much about!

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I thought we troubled them more in pre-season than Man Utd did! Although they looked pretty nifty in pre-season too.

 

Not really a marker for comparison though is it? A pre-season tournament game and a Europa League game against Manchester United...!

 

Would love to host them again for this summers tournament. Also, who was the guy who scored the great free-kick against us in the ML Cup?

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Not really a marker for comparison though is it? A pre-season tournament game and a Europa League game against Manchester United...!

 

Would love to host them again for this summers tournament. Also, who was the guy who scored the great free-kick against us in the ML Cup?

 

I was just saying it in jest tbf.

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Both Caplow and Lallana were excited watching the game last night. Hope they mention it to Atkins and Adkins.

 

Bilbao were on fire last night. Dont often see Utd completely ouplayed like that. United were not up for it? Do you reckan The Ferg would accept that? Nope

What got me was the intense atmosphere in the stadium...electric.

The Spanish dont usually get that fired up in the grounds , but that place was buzzing.

 

Shall check out Bilbao the next few seasons, if their allowed to keep their players that is.

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Watched Bilbao twice destroy Manure, with a fit, skillful and well organised team.

Let's not fall into the media trap and over estimate the English top 5 clubs and their millions wasted on players giving 80% week in week out.

There's the model in red and white stripes for Saints to emulate.

 

Ole los Rojos !

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Has anyone watched the Bilbao man it'd match. They are hammering them more than Barcelona did. Insanely good. They remind me of us, or where I want us to be. More pressing. Fluid play. I truly hope that atkins watches this game and shows it to the lads every day. They have utterly dicked utd, mist be more possession. Than the Barcelona. Man utd have barely managed 3 passes. And they are brilliant to watch. They are the only team in red and white that I care to knowledge. And every player is a local for them. Beasts! 20 year olds literally smashing the crap put of utd! And doing it in style! Atkins - watch. Also their fans. The atmosphere... every stand singing and swing scarves... would love to see st mary's like that all the time. I hope this is the saints vision we hear so much about!

 

Do us a favour! Man U third team playing in a competition that SAF has never heard of and doesn't give a **** about. Nobody in England is the least bit interested in winning it - just adds more mayhem to the fixture list.

 

Stll ManC * ManU fulfilled their statutory obligations to the FA and UEFA.

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Do grow up.

 

I believe a competent education (which includes the ability to spell so you don't look like a thicky and might get taken seriously) is a fundamental part of "growing up". Getting the name of the manager right MIGHT just enhance the credibility of the poster.

 

Looks like the pedants are revolting.

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Getting back to the point, yes Bilbao were excellent and Bielsa's probably my favourite "head coach" at the moment. Chile were great to watch during the World Cup as well. How they're only 7th in La Liga, who knows ? Probably because that level of energy and pressing is REALLY difficult to maintain for 90 minutes.

 

Great kit as well (except the horrible European patch on the back) - let's hope we all get to whinge about that rule in the near future again too.

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Yeah - I believe you, honest!

PS: You cannot post an ironic reply to an ironic post - it is against protocol and always backfires (even with the winkie thing) ;)

 

On viewing this, and the other pedantry thread, I'm pretty sure there are a few people with broken irony detectors. Or "whoosh", as we like to say around these parts.

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Yeah, and according to the commentator (from the first leg) they got their kit from Sunderland!!

 

I did try to correct, via Twitter, but not heard an apology!

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they got it from Umbro. ;)

 

Coincidentally I'm sure (even though Umbro have been big on tradition and finding tenuous reasons for elements of kit design recently), the shirt is identical to Saints with different coloured arms and cuffs - and manufacturer logo, sponsors, and badge, pedants. I actually like ours better, even though I regard us as more red and white than white and red.

 

Their green away kit absolutely rocks though and I was mildly perturbed they didn't wear it at St Mary's.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure they got it from Umbro. ;)

 

Coincidentally I'm sure (even though Umbro have been big on tradition and finding tenuous reasons for elements of kit design recently), the shirt is identical to Saints with different coloured arms and cuffs - and manufacturer logo, sponsors, and badge, pedants. I actually like ours better, even though I regard us as more red and white than white and red.

 

Their green away kit absolutely rocks though and I was mildly perturbed they didn't wear it at St Mary's.

 

We had a spanish student staying with us who was a big atletico fan and who was very aware or the origins of their current colours. I think that perhaps we could foster a "special relationship" with them (and Charlie Miller's Brazil)?

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We had a spanish student staying with us who was a big atletico fan and who was very aware or the origins of their current colours. I think that perhaps we could foster a "special relationship" with them (and Charlie Miller's Brazil)?
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We had a spanish student staying with us who was a big atletico fan and who was very aware or the origins of their current colours. I think that perhaps we could foster a "special relationship" with them (and Charlie Miller's Brazil)?

 

"Athletic". So named for their English heritage. But interesting.

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Yeah, and according to the commentator (from the first leg) they got their kit from Sunderland!!

 

I did try to correct, via Twitter, but not heard an apology!

 

They probably did.

 

Most of the articles you read on the internet say it was from the Sunderland docks that they took the colours back to Spain.

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They probably did.

 

Most of the articles you read on the internet say it was from the Sunderland docks that they took the colours back to Spain.

Mostly the ones written by Sunderland. It is not disputed that people from Sunderland, as well as from Southampton and Portsmouth were instrumental in the set up of Athletic Club, but it is usually accepted that Juan Elordy took the kit back to Bilbao did travel from Southampton (he had been staying in London, so not very likely to have gone to Sunderland to catch a boat to Bilbao), and purchased 2 sets of kit in Southampton, not Sunderland. The other set of kit was given to Athletico Madrid I believe, who were set up by Basque players living in Madrid (Madrid use blue shorts I think, as Southampton did in those days of course).

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I think this thread needs more mentions of them getting their kit from us.

 

Amazingly, the Bilbao Wikipedia page seems to have changed the origin of their shirt in the past 3 days from Saints to Sunderland (again).

 

That Juan Elorduy has a lot to answer for.

 

Athletic's website has nothing about the kit story, just a bunch of stuff about English influences in it's formation : http://www.athletic-club.net/web/main.asp?a=2&b=3&c=0&d=0&idi=2

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I think this thread needs more mentions of them getting their kit from us.

 

Amazingly, the Bilbao Wikipedia page seems to have changed the origin of their shirt in the past 3 days from Saints to Sunderland (again).

 

That Juan Elorduy has a lot to answer for.

 

Athletic's website has nothing about the kit story, just a bunch of stuff about English influences in it's formation : http://www.athletic-club.net/web/main.asp?a=2&b=3&c=0&d=0&idi=2

 

Gosh, and I knew ages before Wikipedia was even a twinkle in Jimmy Wales' (note the position of the apostrophe please The9) nether region that Athletic Bilbao's kit was "sourced" from Southampton's.

 

And no amount of Mackems changing Wikipedia is going to change my mind on that one!

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I went to Bilbao a few years ago. Having a chat to a local, I mentioned I was from Southampton and he told me that they wear red and white stripes because of Southampton. Pretty sure I remember seeing Southampton mentioned in the club shop at the San Mames somewhere too. It makes sense for there to be links between the cities due to the maritime tradition and geographic proximity.

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Actually the explanation to me was that Atletico Madrid (his team) took up the red and white after having a strip given to them by SFC and that Athletic Bilbao later adopted the same strip

 

I read up a few things on this when we played them in the summer, and I've seen variations on Sunderland/Southampton as the docks where Elorduy was waiting AND variations on whether Athletic Club (Bilbao) or Atletico (Madrid) got it first, and also one article which claimed Atletico Madrid were a junior club offshoot of Athletic Bilbao, which seems somewhat unlikely given the geography and social history of the areas, if not the club names.

 

The only consistencies across the stories are Juan Elorduy wanting Blackburn kits (their previous colours) and failing, so getting some red and white stripes from somewhere instead, and then giving them to at least one of the current La Liga clubs. But definitely not Gijon, as they already had those colours.

 

I'm still hung up on Charles Miller's South American tour and the similarities between the Saints sash kit and Peru's kit, tbh.

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I went to Bilbao a few years ago. Having a chat to a local, I mentioned I was from Southampton and he told me that they wear red and white stripes because of Southampton. Pretty sure I remember seeing Southampton mentioned in the club shop at the San Mames somewhere too. It makes sense for there to be links between the cities due to the maritime tradition and geographic proximity.

 

Yeah, when you look at the geography of it, would Elorduy have gone to London to buy kit then made his way up to Sunderland to get a ship to Bilbao ? Seems a lot less likely than departing from Southampton, which is much nearer London AND more convenient for Bilbao. I'm no expert on 1909 passenger shipping routes or maritime history though.

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Gosh, and I knew ages before Wikipedia was even a twinkle in Jimmy Wales' (note the position of the apostrophe please The9) nether region that Athletic Bilbao's kit was "sourced" from Southampton's.

 

And no amount of Mackems changing Wikipedia is going to change my mind on that one!

 

Apostrophe noted, and there's another grammatical argument regarding an "s" after " s' " right there. I don't, and regard it as a debate about style.

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Apostrophe noted, and there's another grammatical argument regarding an "s" after " s' " right there. I don't, and regard it as a debate about style.

 

It's wrong if you have "s'" you don't have "s's" (at least that's what I think you're saying).

 

BTW, this article in Spanish from Jan 2010!!

 

http://www.canalathletic.com/noticias/2010-01-06/colores-siglo-20100106.html

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It's wrong if you have "s'" you don't have "s's" (at least that's what I think you're saying).

 

BTW, this article in Spanish from Jan 2010!!

 

http://www.canalathletic.com/noticias/2010-01-06/colores-siglo-20100106.html

 

What I'm saying is it doesn't bother me if it's Wales' or Wales's, it's a matter of style. I prefer the former for brevity and convenience.

 

Saw that article earlier, it's one of many conflicting sources. I've even ticked "Spanish" on my Google preferences and searched on Juan Eldoruy in case something unequivocal popped up - but as Athletic Club aren't confirming it, we're stuck with the conflicting reports until someone finds out for certain - and even then (like with the Herbert Chapman WM formation stuff and the myth that Man U changed kits in the 6-3 defeat) when someone disproves it the media just carries on reporting what they decided is the truth.

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