Surman4no7shirt Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 He said: "I suppose there's not a million candidates, you know, Roy Hodgson and Sam Allardyce and whoever. "And there's some young managers like Nigel Adkins and people like that, who in the future, I'm sure, would be fantastic, but, at the moment, probably too young. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7596340/Age-an-England-issue-for-Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Allardyce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please god no. Would take Roy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CylonKing Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Yes Yes, Nigel Adkins is far, far too young to be managing England. He needs to stay with us and mature as a manager over the next decade or 2, maybe then, just maybe he might, might be ready! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 I don't think Adkins would suit the role. He seems to like moulding players his way and getting the team used to different formations etc. With the England job he would have very little opportunity to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Allardyce. Made me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Allardyce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please god no. Would take Roy though. Personally I think Big Sam has all the right attributes for the England job, but if I was Stuart Lancaster I would be gutted to be passed over like that after a great campaign:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Wrong Nigel, in my opinion Pearson would be a better bet for England (but probably because I prefer NA to stay with us). Hodgson is head and shoulders the best candidate if the manager has to be English, it requires as Arry says someone who can coach, so thats Arry out of the running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 He said: "I suppose there's not a million candidates, you know, Roy Hodgson and Sam Allardyce and whoever. "And there's some young managers like Nigel Adkins and people like that, who in the future, I'm sure, would be fantastic, but, at the moment, probably too young. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7596340/Age-an-England-issue-for-Harry Of course Redcrap is the oracle as far as mangement is concerned! what will he do should he land the England job, as he won't know what to do, when he can't buy other counbtries players,bankrupt the organisation he works for and fatten his own bank balance with a few well placed bungs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 I am of the opinion that to be successful Adkins needs his team on the training ground a lot of the time. He relishes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Hands off Adkins!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st.sj Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 He said: "I suppose there's not a million candidates, you know, Roy Hodgson and Sam Allardyce and whoever. "And there's some young managers like Nigel Adkins and people like that, who in the future, I'm sure, would be fantastic, but, at the moment, probably too young. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7596340/Age-an-England-issue-for-Harry The world has gone mad giving air time to what Redknapp says, he is a moron. I do not think he is anywhere near as good a manager as Adkins. Not saying that Adkins should get the England job but Redknapp certainly shouldnt. Surely we have better calibre than him. As for him suggesting Allerdyce is a prospect. Dont think so, hes not exactly getting the best out of his squad is he. Was talking to someone that played under him some years ago and apparently he was an arrogant ***. and had favourites etc. Hodgson should probably be considered more highly than he is but as I say the world is mad even talking about Redknapp as a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 I don't like the idea of Redknapp rating Adkins or raising his profile like this in interviews. At the end of the day, Redknapp will almost certainly be England manager. When he does, there's a gap to fill at Spurs. No doubt Levy will canvas opinion from Redknapp for replacements. Adkins will get mentioned. Would he, could he turn down that role if Spurs were playing Champions League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 I don't like the idea of Redknapp rating Adkins or raising his profile like this in interviews. At the end of the day, Redknapp will almost certainly be England manager. When he does, there's a gap to fill at Spurs. No doubt Levy will canvas opinion from Redknapp for replacements. Adkins will get mentioned. Would he, could he turn down that role if Spurs were playing Champions League? he simply will not what so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 I didn't think he would, even if Saints were champions and started the premier league well...but now you've said no chance, it leads me to think there must be a chance. spurs fans would be furious...absolutely furious if adkins is arrys relief.... imagine when we were 4th and we hired neil warnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 he simply will not what so ever You are kidding yourself. I am not for one minute suggesting that he will be their next manager or even slightly considered, but they will (As will the vast large majority of Premier League Clubs) be keeping tabs on him and a watchful eye. Management recruitment at the top level is more stats and win ratio's etc. and Adkins stats are simply incredible and right up there with the best of them. Chairmen and boards, then have to consider, style of play, personality and experience. Adkins ticks all of the boxes with the exception of top flight expereince and senior player management. Which means he might need a stepping stone club, or one of the top ten to take a (Relatively small) gamble on him and in a field of hand me downs and merrygo round failed managers, one of them will, if we get promoted and he keeps us up. If we go up, one of our biggest challenges will be to keep hold of him. If you don't think Adkins is on the radar of most prem clubs.... You are kidding yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 You are kidding yourself. I am not for one minute suggesting that he will be their next manager or even slightly considered, but they will (As will the vast large majority of Premier League Clubs) be keeping tabs on him and a watchful eye. Management recruitment at the top level is more stats and win ratio's etc. and Adkins stats are simply incredible and right up there with the best of them. Chairmen and boards, then have to consider, style of play, personality and experience. Adkins ticks all of the boxes with the exception of top flight expereince and senior player management. Which means he might need a stepping stone club, or one of the top ten to take a (Relatively small) gamble on him and in a field of hand me downs and merrygo round failed managers, one of them will, if we get promoted and he keeps us up. If we go up, one of our biggest challenges will be to keep hold of him. If you don't think Adkins is on the radar of most prem clubs.... You are kidding yourself Liverpool will need a new manager soon and he's perfect for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 I don't think Adkins would suit the role. He seems to like moulding players his way and getting the team used to different formations etc. With the England job he would have very little opportunity to do that. Nail on head - he would have very little control on diet regime let alone being able to work with a set squad of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Liverpool will need a new manager soon and he's perfect for them. That would certainly put the cat among the pgeons - a calling from his spititual home is probably the only job that could tempt him away from his work in progress with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 I heard Hodgsons getting it from such a good source that I took my little all down the bookies and lumped on! The odds got pretty much halved overnight - either my bet skewed the market or I ain't the only bear itk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 I don't like the idea of Redknapp rating Adkins or raising his profile like this in interviews. At the end of the day, Redknapp will almost certainly be England manager. When he does, there's a gap to fill at Spurs. No doubt Levy will canvas opinion from Redknapp for replacements. Adkins will get mentioned. Would he, could he turn down that role if Spurs were playing Champions League? I think if 'Arry will have a hand in choosing his successor he might go for Chris Hughton - he coached at Spurs for a long time, got Newcastle promoted easily from this league (and did well in the Prem too by all accounts) and is doing a decent job with no money at Brum. Could be a good bet for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 Redknapp - I don't like the self-deprecating line he is taking now. "I don't know if the England job is right for me, or if I'm right for the England job." He always said he would jump at the chance. Now he is about to be crowned from a shortlist of one name - his own - he is playing a game of "if you want me, talk me into it, cos I might not want it unless it pays megabucks." Yes, he can do the job, and do it well, but if he isn't committed, then don't give it to him. Agree Roy Hodgson has a top drawer CV, with international experience, and should be seriously considered. Adkins - he has done and is doing a fantastic job for us. I hope we can keep him for another season at least, but if someone of the gravitas of a top half Premier side came a-calling eg. Liverpool, it would he hard to deny him his chance at that level. His appraisal is going to read "performance exceeds expectations." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 That would certainly put the cat among the pgeons - a calling from his spiritual home is probably the only job that could tempt him away from his work in progress with us. Like me, he's from the Wirrall. We're not Scousers, we're from this side of the Mersey river. The spiritual home is Tranmere Rovers, and they can't afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 Redknapp - I don't like the self-deprecating line he is taking now. "I don't know if the England job is right for me, or if I'm right for the England job." He always said he would jump at the chance. Now he is about to be crowned from a shortlist of one name - his own - he is playing a game of "if you want me, talk me into it, cos I might not want it unless it pays megabucks.." Or...maybe HR has got wind of the same rumours mentioned above that Hodgson is getting it. So rather than self-deprecating, he is merely moving himself into position for a statement next month along the lines of - The England job would be an honour, but we have come such a long way at Spurs - great fans , fantastic squad - and I think we are on the verge of challenging for the title. It would be wrong to leave now....blah, blah...... That would suit me fine.....don't want Spurs sniffing round Nigel either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 You are kidding yourself. I am not for one minute suggesting that he will be their next manager or even slightly considered, but they will (As will the vast large majority of Premier League Clubs) be keeping tabs on him and a watchful eye. Management recruitment at the top level is more stats and win ratio's etc. and Adkins stats are simply incredible and right up there with the best of them. Chairmen and boards, then have to consider, style of play, personality and experience. Adkins ticks all of the boxes with the exception of top flight expereince and senior player management. Which means he might need a stepping stone club, or one of the top ten to take a (Relatively small) gamble on him and in a field of hand me downs and merrygo round failed managers, one of them will, if we get promoted and he keeps us up. If we go up, one of our biggest challenges will be to keep hold of him. If you don't think Adkins is on the radar of most prem clubs.... You are kidding yourself a team finishing 3rd or 4th is not going to want someone who has never managed in the top flight let alone champions league....someone who has no experience in big huge egos......if array goes, they are talking Mourinho, Capello, benitez...etc I'm sorry, Adkins will not be considered.....brendon rodgers and paul lambert will be niles ahead of him and they won't get considered. poyet won't get considered and he used to play for them adkins has great stats as he has never managed at the top level...do you think spurs would have gone for warnock if array left 12 months ago... nope, neither do i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 (edited) How about a Warnock & Holloway combo with guidance from Big Sam ..... that would really show how good English Coaches are Edited 15 March, 2012 by ericofarabia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 Like me, he's from the Wirrall. We're not Scousers, we're from this side of the Mersey river. The spiritual home is Tranmere Rovers, and they can't afford him. Phew!! That's a relief - always thought he was too classy to be a proper scouser Now would you also tell me that RLSGM is also from The Wirrall or some leafy part of Cheshire and that nothing could ever tempt him up to Scouseville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 Who cares,really cares about redknapp`s opinion....rent a quote man.... The media put him on some kind of pedestal and hang on every word he says and regard him as the font of all knowledge... Personally i am sick of seeing the face of the self congratulating attention seeker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellgirl Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 As long as N.A. gets on with the Chairman ,I can't see him moving until the work in progress is completed,and possibly only if he feels he can take them no further will he consider a move away.But we must see if we go up,how things are going after a season and whether everyone is still on the bus,as we will have additions to the squad in the summer who may not be as easy to handle as it would appear we have at the moment. On the subject of 'arry,he is shameless,touting himself everywhere,he must have worked out that the England job might be the end of the gravy train and his special financial arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 Firstly who cares what redknapp thinks. He is a tool. Secondly, in this instance he is entirely correct. Adkins has no experience in the top flight an would not command the respect of the overpaid primadonnas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 a team finishing 3rd or 4th is not going to want someone who has never managed in the top flight let alone champions league....someone who has no experience in big huge egos......if array goes, they are talking Mourinho, Capello, benitez...etc I'm sorry, Adkins will not be considered.....brendon rodgers and paul lambert will be niles ahead of him and they won't get considered. poyet won't get considered and he used to play for them adkins has great stats as he has never managed at the top level...do you think spurs would have gone for warnock if array left 12 months ago... nope, neither do i warnocks stats aren't great and no where near Adkins. There are very very few upcoming English managers with sustained success and just like being a decent English player, decent English managers come at a premium. If you read what I put, I said he was very unlikely he would even be slightly considered. But the fact that arry even mentioned his name is association with the England role, gives credence to my thoughts that he is making an impression at the top and is on peoples radars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 NA won't be getting the England job at the moment but as has been mentioned he will most certainly be on the radar of a lot of prem clubs. However he comes across as a loyal kind of guy (his demands for compo for Scunny really put him up in my estimation) so I would imagine it would have to be something very special to tempt him away from this club. The obvious choice would be Liverpool or Everton but I can't see Dalglish and certainly not Moyes being relieved any time soon. I'm confident that he'll be our manager come August, whatever division we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 Who cares,really cares about redknapp`s opinion....rent a quote man.... The media put him on some kind of pedestal and hang on every word he says and regard him as the font of all knowledge... Personally i am sick of seeing the face of the self congratulating attention seeker... bang on, sack-faced conniving tosser.....massively over-rated, over-hyped and devious.....his track record, under scrutiny, actually makes for pretty dismal reading.....part of me wants him to get the job and be exposed for the con-artist he is, but at the same time, I don't want the national side to suffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 Personally I think Big Sam has all the right attributes for the England job, but if I was Stuart Lancaster I would be gutted to be passed over like that after a great campaign:) I lol'd.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 spurs fans would be furious...absolutely furious if adkins is arrys relief.... imagine when we were 4th and we hired neil warnock We hired Neil Warnock? Don't remember that. Must have been a short-term rental for cutting the grass or something; thank God we didn't employ him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted 15 March, 2012 Share Posted 15 March, 2012 I think there is a lot of Saints' bias and the emotions of relegation, when talking down Redknapp for England. I think he is the only candidate at present. Whilst not ideal, I think he matches a lot of what is needed. He is a motivational manager who can get the best out of players; he is well respected by senior players; and has experience of dealing with top player egos. Also, the press love him which is probably 50-60% of the pressure that an England manager would have, gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 He said: "I suppose there's not a million candidates, you know, Roy Hodgson and Sam Allardyce and whoever. "And there's some young managers like Nigel Adkins and people like that, who in the future, I'm sure, would be fantastic, but, at the moment, probably too young. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7596340/Age-an-England-issue-for-Harry .........and so he is, too. dealing with some of those over-paid prima donnas in the England squad takes a certain nous . You need a hard-headed type with a good football brain. There are too many of the first, and a real lack of the second. Trouble is most of them...... are either Scots, or Italian ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 a team finishing 3rd or 4th is not going to want someone who has never managed in the top flight let alone champions league....someone who has no experience in big huge egos......if array goes, they are talking Mourinho, Capello, benitez...etc I'm sorry, Adkins will not be considered.....brendon rodgers and paul lambert will be niles ahead of him and they won't get considered. poyet won't get considered and he used to play for them adkins has great stats as he has never managed at the top level...do you think spurs would have gone for warnock if array left 12 months ago... nope, neither do i Benitez would be a great fit for Spurs imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 (edited) warnocks stats aren't great and no where near Adkins. There are very very few upcoming English managers with sustained success and just like being a decent English player, decent English managers come at a premium. If you read what I put, I said he was very unlikely he would even be slightly considered. But the fact that arry even mentioned his name is association with the England role, gives credence to my thoughts that he is making an impression at the top and is on peoples radars. Warnock's stats are great, actually. For a kick off, Warnock has been promoted into the Premier League twice, against Nigel Adkins zero times. Warnock struggled in the top division, but none of us know how Nige is going to get on. Warnock has just managed longer than Nigel has and at a higher level - big Championship level clubs fighting for promotion, not league one level clubs scrapping at the bottom of the Championship. When Warnock got Cortese style backing at QPR what happened - they ran away with the league, far more decisively than Nigel has achieved thus far. And this is last season we're talking about, not ancient history. Let's have a look at Adkins in a decade's time and see where he is then. People thinking he is never going to fail anywhere ever are just deluding themselves. Edited 16 March, 2012 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 March, 2012 Share Posted 17 March, 2012 warnocks stats aren't great and no where near Adkins. There are very very few upcoming English managers with sustained success and just like being a decent English player, decent English managers come at a premium. If you read what I put, I said he was very unlikely he would even be slightly considered. But the fact that arry even mentioned his name is association with the England role, gives credence to my thoughts that he is m aking an impression at the top and is on peoples radars. So tell me, just who is mentioning his name in association with the England job? If you read the interview properly Redknapp says little more than Nige is a decent young manager in an interview about him and the England job. So that is the manager of Tottenham says Adkins is a good manager, hardly pleading with the FA to consider him. who else? Oh, you lot. Thats about it isn't it? Much like Adkins being linked with the Liverpool and Tottenham jobs, by who? Oh guess what, you lot again. Use a bit of commo n sense FFS. Why would a top 6 club want a manager with no top flight management experience whatsoever? Take of the Saints titted glasses, put down the giant foam hands and take a deep breath. Believe it or not but Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Man United and City and England do not want all our players. They do not want our manager. The criteria for being an England international and champions league player and manager is quite as simple as doing a good job for championship side Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 17 March, 2012 Share Posted 17 March, 2012 So tell me, just who is mentioning his name in association with the England job? If you read the interview properly Redknapp says little more than Nige is a decent young manager in an interview about him and the England job. So that is the manager of Tottenham says Adkins is a good manager, hardly pleading with the FA to consider him. who else? Oh, you lot. Thats about it isn't it? Much like Adkins being linked with the Liverpool and Tottenham jobs, by who? Oh guess what, you lot again. Use a bit of commo n sense FFS. Why would a top 6 club want a manager with no top flight management experience whatsoever? Take of the Saints titted glasses, put down the giant foam hands and take a deep breath. Believe it or not but Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Man United and City and England do not want all our players. They do not want our manager. The criteria for being an England international and champions league player and manager is quite as simple as doing a good job for championship side Southampton. But why not? I thought you said we were the new Barcelona? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 17 March, 2012 Share Posted 17 March, 2012 Lets face it eh? On previous England Managers form, Nigel WON'T get the job because he wears glasses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 I heard Hodgsons getting it from such a good source that I took my little all down the bookies and lumped on! The odds got pretty much halved overnight - either my bet skewed the market or I ain't the only bear itk Did anyone listen to Bearsy back in March? No? ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Well, he would, wouldn't he? Yes, yes, far too young, needs another ten years of top flight success at Southampton first, a couple of titles, a few cups, one or two Champions League wins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Personally I think Big Sam has all the right attributes for the England job, but if I was Stuart Lancaster I would be gutted to be passed over like that after a great campaign:) Big Sam? Are you Scottish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 England have never been the same since Hoddle was sacked. I am starting a campaign on the England web. Bring back Hoddle ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 England have never been the same since Hoddle was sacked. I am starting a campaign on the England web. Bring back Hoddle ! I've never heard this before, Dalek, tell me, do you think that England's decline has anything to do with Hoddle not being appointed again? Please tell me if you've heard this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Someone suggested England stick with Pearce! No way, he is a throwback, a complete dinosaur with no fresh ideas to offer. Have you watched the U21's? He's turned them into a hoofball team with no finesse. Imagine England at the Euro's with Pearce in the dug-out alongside his mate our very own ex-manager Steve Wigley! I saw it once during the England Holland friendly and it made my blood run cold - Wigley in the dug-out at a full England international - it doesn't get much more scarey than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 I heard Hodgsons getting it from such a good source that I took my little all down the bookies and lumped on! The odds got pretty much halved overnight - either my bet skewed the market or I ain't the only bear itk Bearsy officially rich! Anyone want a loan? Might buy Pompey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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