stevegrant Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Looking into the not-too-distant future, there is an ever-increasing chance that we could actually send Pompey down at St Mary's on Easter Saturday. They would have 5 games to play after that game, so the gap to 21st place after the game would need to be 16 points or more. With their dwindling squad, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they could lose the 5 games they have to play between now and then - Bristol City (home), Birmingham (home), Coventry (away), Hull (home), Burnley (home) - and then they're relying on the teams above them to not pull away from them. In order to guarantee that a win for us would send them down, the 16-point gap would have to exist before the game as well (with 18 points still to play for) for two reasons: firstly, we can't rely on the other sides down there winning that day (indeed Forest play Bristol City, so at least one side will drop points), and secondly, our game is an early kick-off so we play before everyone else. That means that the teams outside of the bottom 3 need to get to 42 points before Easter: Peterborough: 1pt required from Ipswich (away), Reading (home), Barnsley (away), West Ham (home), Leicester (home) Millwall: 5pts required from Saints (home), Doncaster (away), Leeds (home), Cardiff (away) [ouch] Nottingham Forest: 7pts required from Derby (away), Leeds (away), Brighton (home), Leicester (away), Crystal Palace (away) Bristol City: 9pts required from Pompey (away), Watford (home), Middlesbrough (away), Derby (home) Alternatively, either Coventry or Doncaster could go on a really good run. Coventry would need to win all 4 of their upcoming games (Watford away, Cardiff away, Pompey home, Hull away), or Doncaster 4 from 6 (Reading home, Derby home, Millwall home, Saints away, Crystal Palace away, Birmingham home). So all in all, it's still fairly unlikely - mainly due to the reliance on other **** teams not being quite so **** anymore - but the opportunity to hammer the final nail in their relegation coffin would be the ultimate redemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Looking into the not-too-distant future, there is an ever-increasing chance that we could actually send Pompey down at St Mary's on Easter Saturday. They would have 5 games to play after that game, so the gap to 21st place after the game would need to be 16 points or more. With their dwindling squad, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they could lose the 5 games they have to play between now and then - Bristol City (home), Birmingham (home), Coventry (away), Hull (home), Burnley (home) - and then they're relying on the teams above them to not pull away from them. In order to guarantee that a win for us would send them down, the 16-point gap would have to exist before the game as well (with 18 points still to play for) for two reasons: firstly, we can't rely on the other sides down there winning that day (indeed Forest play Bristol City, so at least one side will drop points), and secondly, our game is an early kick-off so we play before everyone else. That means that the teams outside of the bottom 3 need to get to 42 points before Easter: Peterborough: 1pt required from Ipswich (away), Reading (home), Barnsley (away), West Ham (home), Leicester (home) Millwall: 5pts required from Saints (home), Doncaster (away), Leeds (home), Cardiff (away) [ouch] Nottingham Forest: 7pts required from Derby (away), Leeds (away), Brighton (home), Leicester (away), Crystal Palace (away) Bristol City: 9pts required from Pompey (away), Watford (home), Middlesbrough (away), Derby (home) Alternatively, either Coventry or Doncaster could go on a really good run. Coventry would need to win all 4 of their upcoming games (Watford away, Cardiff away, Pompey home, Hull away), or Doncaster 4 from 6 (Reading home, Derby home, Millwall home, Saints away, Crystal Palace away, Birmingham home). So all in all, it's still fairly unlikely - mainly due to the reliance on other **** teams not being quite so **** anymore - but the opportunity to hammer the final nail in their relegation coffin would be the ultimate redemption. Bristol City won't get 9 points from those games unfortunately. Good research though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 And another plus 5 goals at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 At the end of the day it's Pompey's latest adlministration that will send them down, nothing to do with us whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Without wishing to intrude on the other thread about pompey, but if the original CVA is formally "Failed" (There is a payment due on April 1st, which they cant and won't make, just not sure it that means it formally fails there and then) then they will get another points deduction, which will relegate them, so it won't be us, but still a chance they will already be relegated when they come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I think it's unlikely. I'd settle for sticking 5 past them TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 It would be nice to send them down at Easter however imo their 7 home and 4 away games (3 of which are against - Coventry, Donny and Forest) is going to make it closer than the 8 points they are adrift at the moment. Big game for them on Saturday against Bristol. One additional issue is that the FL site says they have Halford on 9 bookings and Ben-Hain on 8 bookings http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Discipline/0,,10794~201110396~7,00.html and the 10 booking - 2 match ban cutoff date is after our game (2nd sunday in April). I wonder if either of those players will decide to opt out of our game by getting booked just before it (e.g. they will of course blame the FL for not allowing them to bring in more players, rather than the player getting 10 bookings). The question for me is whether Saints put out their strongest side against the Cheats with Palace 2 days later and Reading 6 days later (3 games in 6 days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 A few days ago I was thinking (hoping) this could be an option - but having done the bbc predictor on the bottom 6, I can't see any way we will be able to send them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 We may not send them down but hopefully we can put another large screw in their coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 3 points & several goals for us on 7th & I will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Didn't we send them down in 76 from this League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 the 10 points deduction they will get for their fans invading the pitch and causing the game to be abandoned will send them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 More interested in what we do than them, not sure that everyone else has the same view which is sad. They are going down anyway, with or without our help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 now i hate them with a passion , but not going to talk about it because these things have a habit og coming back and biting you on the b*m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 i heard some people behind me discussing this game on saturday and it is scary how many seem to assume we just need to turn up to beat them on April 7th, forget the league position i am sure they will give us a tough match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 i heard some people behind me discussing this game on saturday and it is scary how many seem to assume we just need to turn up to beat them on April 7th, forget the league position i am sure they will give us a tough match. totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 (edited) i heard some people behind me discussing this game on saturday and it is scary how many seem to assume we just need to turn up to beat them on April 7th, forget the league position i am sure they will give us a tough match. Yep, its all they have left. If they go sliding into League 1 at the end of April, possibly even facing oblivion, that journey will feel a helluva lot nicer for them if they prevented us from getting promoted with their dying breath. I'm thinking Khan Noonien Singh at the end of Star Trek 2. Edited 12 March, 2012 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Doesnt matter what they or other teams do, so long as we "believe" we sent them down that's all that matters. We could even sing at our home games "when we sent the skate c*nts down", if we sing it enough, some of our fans will start to believe it anyway. We could even wind the blue few up by claiming we sent them down. After all, that's what they have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Yep, its all they have left. If they go sliding into League 1 at the end of April, possibly even facing oblivion, that journey will feel a helluva lot nicer for them if they prevented us from getting relegated with their dying breath. you mean promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 i heard some people behind me discussing this game on saturday and it is scary how many seem to assume we just need to turn up to beat them on April 7th, forget the league position i am sure they will give us a tough match. This is true, however hopefully they will be like the team we took to Fratton in 2005. I can't wait to see whatever's left of their team stood like rabbits in the headlights in the tunnel at St Marys. After the two 4-1 games we really owe them an absolute hammering and we will be well up for it being so close to automatic promotion. Here's a scenario: Saints vs Coventry on the last day. Saints already promoted and need a draw to be champions. Coventry just need a draw to avoid the drop at the expense of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 you mean promoted Yes, thanks for pointing the mistake out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Here's a scenario: Saints vs Coventry on the last day. Saints already promoted and need a draw to be champions. Coventry just need a draw to avoid the drop at the expense of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Here's a scenario: Saints vs Coventry on the last day. Saints already promoted and need a draw to be champions. Coventry just need a draw to avoid the drop at the expense of... Even if we're not the ones to end it, Pompey will be long gone before the last day of the season IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Here's a scenario: Saints vs Coventry on the last day. Saints already promoted and need a draw to be champions. Coventry just need a draw to avoid the drop at the expense of... Pompey go down & John Westwood drives his ice cream van off the Itchen Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir woody Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Pompey go down & John Westwood drives his ice cream van off the Itchen Bridge. God, if only ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I just hope it's remembered for a crushing Saints win regardless of their plight at the time . My fear is that that lot will be intent on causing a right old display as the football will not matter one bit by then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 It would be nice to send them down at Easter however imo their 7 home and 4 away games (3 of which are against - Coventry, Donny and Forest) is going to make it closer than the 8 points they are adrift at the moment. Big game for them on Saturday against Bristol. One additional issue is that the FL site says they have Halford on 9 bookings and Ben-Hain on 8 bookings http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Discipline/0,,10794~201110396~7,00.html and the 10 booking - 2 match ban cutoff date is after our game (2nd sunday in April). I wonder if either of those players will decide to opt out of our game by getting booked just before it (e.g. they will of course blame the FL for not allowing them to bring in more players, rather than the player getting 10 bookings). The question for me is whether Saints put out their strongest side against the Cheats with Palace 2 days later and Reading 6 days later (3 games in 6 days). That occurred to me as well. They will be fired up whoever they have left on the books, and any one of the rats yet to desert the sinking ship that is portsmouth fc who managed to crock Rickie or Adam would instantly enter pfc folklore. And in any case, to be honest if we cant rip the c*nts to shreds without a few normally key players, we dont deserve to be where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 For anyone else at the top of the league, this is a gimmie. But, for us it's going to be a tough game. I care more about promotion than the Skates and would be happy with 7 points from the Palace, Reading and Skate game. If we beat the Skates and lose to Reading, then we could miss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I'm thinking Khan Noonien Singh at the end of Star Trek 2. I'd settle for that outcome any day; they explode whilst we warp into the Premier League! "Bless you Kelvin - GO RICKIE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 If we are hammering them, the best thing will be that the fans have to stay and take it. No shimmying off with their tail between their legs at 3nil - the OB won't allow it: 'take your medicine chaps, you deserve it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Just wanna beat the ****s tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Without wishing to intrude on the other thread about pompey, but if the original CVA is formally "Failed" (There is a payment due on April 1st, which they cant and won't make, just not sure it that means it formally fails there and then) then they will get another points deduction, which will relegate them, so it won't be us, but still a chance they will already be relegated when they come here. If that happens, we'll have to hope the Cheats pick up just enough points to avoid formal relegation until the rogering they'll get at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 BTW, although it's virtually impossible for Saints to clinch a top 2 place with a win against the Cheats (damn you Reading), wouldn't it be sweet if thrashing them at SMS not only ensures their relegation, but also ensures at least a top 6 finish for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesaint Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 They are gonna need a lot of old bill in the ground if we are get 3,4 or more up, otherwise their mororical fans will try & disrupt the game whether it's by getting on the pitch or getting at us Saints fans. It might be very interesting. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 They are gonna need a lot of old bill in the ground if we are get 3,4 or more up, otherwise their mororical fans will try & disrupt the game whether it's by getting on the pitch or getting at us Saints fans. It might be very interesting. COYSI doubt that any of those scenarios will come to pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 Didn't we send them down in 76 from this League?We beat them twice and they got relegated. Dunno if we put the final nail in the coffin though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 yep, its all they have left. If they go sliding into league 1 at the end of april, possibly even facing oblivion, that journey will feel a helluva lot nicer for them if they prevented us from getting promoted with their dying breath. I'm thinking khan noonien singh at the end of star trek 2. khan!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 khan!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 If the game is postponed it will no doubt be played midweek before the final weekend like the fixture last season. Could clinch promotion and get them relegated in the same game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludgershallsaint Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 If the game is postponed it will no doubt be played midweek before the final weekend like the fixture last season. Could clinch promotion and get them relegated in the same game. It would have to be some freak weather for a game in April to get postponed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 (edited) Just reading the "Voices from the Titanic" book. It starts... The morning of Wednesday 10th April 1912, dawned bright and breezy in Southampton, but the cool spring air was heavy with anticipation. For, in a few hours' time, the biggest ship in the world, the White Star liner Titanic would set off for New York...... The inaugural voyage of this magnificent vessel was expected to be an occasion that would live in the memory for years to come. And so it proved. Eerie parallels to the morning of 7th April 2012. Change the biggest ship in the world to something else and Titanic to PFC setting off for Southampton and we may have a memory that will live for many years to come when the titanic PFC go down. Edited 13 March, 2012 by positivepete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 13 March, 2012 Share Posted 13 March, 2012 Eerie parallels to the morning of 7th April 2012. Change the biggest ship in the world to something else and Titanic to PFC setting off for Southampton and we may have a memory that will live for many years to come when the titanic PFC go down.Let's hope 1517 people don't die tragically this time eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 17 March, 2012 Share Posted 17 March, 2012 Peterborough: 1pt required from Ipswich (away), Reading (home), Barnsley (away), West Ham (home), Leicester (home) Millwall: 5pts required from Saints (home), Doncaster (away), Leeds (home), Cardiff (away) [ouch] Nottingham Forest: 7pts required from Derby (away), Leeds (away), Brighton (home), Leicester (away), Crystal Palace (away) Bristol City: 9pts required from Pompey (away), Watford (home), Middlesbrough (away), Derby (home) . sadly not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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