Sour Mash Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Great, football snobbery. What a tit. Bit harsh on 'The9' there, thought his photos were quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Bit harsh on 'The9' there, thought his photos were quite good. Arf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Unfortunately no photos of me from Saturday. Probably because I didn't go to the game with 3 mates, all buying matching shirts and scarves, stand behind the goal and outside the players entrance with cr@p looking home made banners waving them madly like the people that go along to X-factor or the last night of big brother. Yeah, 3 mates would be stretching credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 (edited) I am also not averse to a bit of the more conventional football fan behaviour though... That was Worldnet 2008. And some football tourism is better than others. Edited 12 March, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Not so much of the replica shirt in this one : Im so embarrassed by those kids in the replica shirts. My cheeks have gone red and I'm feeling all hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I think you'll find it's the other way round. He'd do anything to be my age again and have my looks. Oh to look like the bloke who shot Daniel Craig in Layer Cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blandford saint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 They weren't the only Japanese going to the match, either. Followed another group of young lads and girls (without replica shirts) going into St. Mary's with their Yo! Sushi take-away. The more the merrier - it's great to see people enjoying watching the Saints. I see Norwich had a special day for overseas supporters yesterday - Burundi Canaries, etc. parading around the pitch. It's good to see such world wide support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 (edited) Oh to look like the bloke who shot Daniel Craig in Layer Cake. I've had a look and can't see that myself, at all. His hair is about as opposite to mine as you could get! Now bore off. Edited 12 March, 2012 by Griffo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 The continual labelling of people like them as 'gimps'. They looked ridiculous to you. Not to me, or clearly many others. It wouldn't be my choice to take such placards either, but I'm not gonna criticise them for it just because they choose to do something different. To be honest I thought they fitted right in with the majority of those around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I've had a look and can't see that myself, at all. I wouldn't want to either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I've had a look and can't see that myself, at all. I wouldn't want to either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 To be honest I thought they fitted right in with the majority of those around them. Lets be honest though, you probably generally think that about 90% of every home crowd consists of gimps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Oh, and The9, as much as I know what point you're making, I don't think we need your entire Facebook photo album collection on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 If some people have a problem with Japanese fans acting funny and excitable, then they are also going to have a problem with Chung too. Just sayin' That'll be music to Guly's ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Football tourism is the best form of tourism, watching the way fans support their teams in different continents is entertainment in its own right. I could bang on about it for ages, but here are a load of my photos, and this lot should pretty much answer why they Japanese guys have chosen to come to a match surrounded by fans of a different background and culture. I've watched football matches all over Europe as a neutral and never felt the need to wave around any placards and generally look like a mong. The only time I've joined in was at Red Star Belgrade on their North Stand and that's only because if I didn't, I would've quite literally had my head kicked in. As you said, people do it to experience a different footballing culture, so leave your tacky placards and the like at home and take in the genuine atmosphere that you've come to experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 So a few young chaps with some homemade banners, which they've taken the time to make, wearing the beloved red & white, cheering one of our strikers, is worse than four middle aged men sat on their behinds moaning about Guly having no passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I've watched football matches all over Europe as a neutral and never felt the need to wave around any placards and generally look like a mong. The only time I've joined in was at Red Star Belgrade on their North Stand and that's only because if I didn't, I would've quite literally had my head kicked in. As you said, people do it to experience a different footballing culture, so leave your tacky placards and the like at home and take in the genuine atmosphere that you've come to experience. What was a red star game like? The fans seem like nutters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 The only time I've joined in was at Red Star Belgrade on their North Stand and that's only because if I didn't, I would've quite literally had my head kicked in. So unless someone is going to kick your head in you ignore what the locals are doing and do what feels right to you. Pretty much what the Japanese fans were doing then...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 So unless someone is going to kick your head in you ignore what the locals are doing and do what feels right to you. Pretty much what the Japanese fans were doing then...... The pretty obvious point that was being made, is if you are a "football tourist" its generally better to take a step back and take in the game/club/ground you've been to see, rather than bouncing around the place doing as you want and making a fool of yourself. Its common courtesy in any situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 There's something especially funny about the usual suspects on here being wound up into a puffy rage by a small group of Japanese youngsters enjoying a day out at St Mary's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I told those with the signs that they looked ridiculous up at Leeds, and I intend on doing similar at Millwall and Hull..... Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 There's something especially funny about the usual suspects on here being wound up into a puffy rage by a small group of Japanese youngsters enjoying a day out at St Mary's Im not wound up into a puffy rage. I'm all for tourist fans coming to SMS and welcome them With open arms, or bow in their case to acknowledge their culture. It's great to see that they researched the club fan culture before coming as well so they fitted right in with the rest of the stand they were in. I applaud them for their efforts and look forward to their return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjapan Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I started translating Chung's blog site on this Saints in Japan page... Seems like he's really going to try give it everything... http://www.facebook.com/SaintsInJapan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 What was a red star game like? The fans seem like nutters Bloody awesome unless you're a Partizan fan (or of certain ethnicities or religions). Went with a mate a few years back who had a deal to photograph them for a book. Passion and noise were incredible, flares were bloody dangerous, and to make things worse Partizan won 4-2. An experience, like the away day at Steau. Part of football culture that's worth experiencing. Been to a Milan derby, Roma-Lazio, and Celtic-Rangers. Would love to do an El Classico, must look in to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Personally i can't wait until we feature on such footballing greats as the Barclays Fan of India awards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be a thread about Tadanari Lee - isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 The pretty obvious point that was being made, is if you are a "football tourist" its generally better to take a step back and take in the game/club/ground you've been to see, rather than bouncing around the place doing as you want and making a fool of yourself. Its common courtesy in any situation. fair enough but are you honestly saying that when you have been at a game abroad & the atmosphere has been top notch, you've not joined in ? i've only experienced a few foreign games & i found myself bouncing around with the locals, shouting my nuts off. loved it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 The pretty obvious point that was being made, is if you are a "football tourist" its generally better to take a step back and take in the game/club/ground you've been to see, rather than bouncing around the place doing as you want and making a fool of yourself. Its common courtesy in any situation. What do you mean common courtesy? There's no objective way to be courteous, certainly not when football is involved. They bought some merch, they cheered the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 12 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be a thread about Tadanari Lee - isn't it ? Exactly. Thank you. Can we have less *****ing about some Japanese fans of Mr. Lee and talk about his footballing ability? After all, if say, Messi, Beckham or Thierry Henry were visiting where I live to play (Southend) I would go to see them. I'm not a huge Southend fan but I'd go. Who cares if they're not long-term or long time Saints fans? They paid for tickets and also paid for those shirts. It's all money in the same pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I don't get this issue with the Japs supporting Lee. I think its brilliant to be honest, putting Saints where I want them to be, on television, being shown as a welcoming and diverse club where the fans have a great time and the team play great footy..... If you go against that image then please, West Ham is only 2 hours away, you can go pay a nminimum of £32 to watch that ****e, and by being miserable you'll fit in a-okay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 What was a red star game like? The fans seem like nutters They are. Easily the best atmosphere I've ever experienced at a game and the match ticket cost an extortionate £1.80. I've never seen so much pyro in one place and this was all against a team who had only just been promoted, so hardly one of their 'bigger' games. I'll hopefully be going back next season for the Eternal Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 So unless someone is going to kick your head in you ignore what the locals are doing and do what feels right to you. Pretty much what the Japanese fans were doing then...... I like how you've completely ignored the rest of my post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 TBF they make the northam look less Mongy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 TBF they make the northam look less Mongy. Look at them, smiling with arms raised in celebration, almost as if they're having a genuinely good time. How dare they. God they make me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Just sorted some Dutch lads a few tickets for the Skate game. They've assured me they won't be bringing any placards. Phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 And just look at those kids behind them. Not even wearing this seasons shirt FFS. And the guy on the right touching himself. I've never been so ashamed to be saints fan as I am today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 14 March, 2012 Share Posted 14 March, 2012 Its brilliant we are gaining a following in Asia. Raise the brand image can only be a good thing, fair play to his supporters club but they do seem to be a tad on the ghey side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 I'm ashamed of some of Saints so-called supporters. If it's an extra paying customer the ground who gives a damn. Not so long ago these same so-called fans would be moaning that we don't get enough coverage on highlights programmes (we are Saints after all) yet we get a specific feature highlighting Lee's support resulting in a far bigger coverage piece and it's labelled as embarrassing. I'd far rather have a stadium of Japanese fans than I would a stadium including some of those morons we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 (edited) Oh, and The9, as much as I know what point you're making, I don't think we need your entire Facebook photo album collection on here... You know perfectly well that's only a tiny fraction of the utter drivel I could post. Ten photos per post, PAH ! Edited 16 March, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 No foreigners at our game (especially those trouble making Japanese!). I mean come on, It's hard enough to get a ticket as it is. Who do they think they are? Coming over here, buying our football tops, supporting our teams, spending money, showing enthusiasm..... This is ********, soon I won't be able to hear the guy next to me slate Guly at the top of his voice or the mong, I mean fan next to me shout "get it forward for f$cks sake!". As for those fekin banners! don't get me started. I could hardly see anyone in the Northam wave their season ticket. As for Lee as a player, well everyone knows those foreign leagues aren't up to much. He is going to run around a lot but be a bit light weight. Luckily we have Lambert who has a good touch for a big man to make up for the naive foreign player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 No foreigners at our game (especially those trouble making Japanese!). I mean come on, It's hard enough to get a ticket as it is. Who do they think they are? Coming over here, buying our football tops, supporting our teams, spending money, showing enthusiasm..... This is ********, soon I won't be able to hear the guy next to me slate Guly at the top of his voice or the mong, I mean fan next to me shout "get it forward for f$cks sake!". As for those fekin banners! don't get me started. I could hardly see anyone in the Northam wave their season ticket. As for Lee as a player, well everyone knows those foreign leagues aren't up to much. He is going to run around a lot but be a bit light weight. Luckily we have Lambert who has a good touch for a big man to make up for the naive foreign player. All good points well made, encompassing the broad spectrum of xenophobia, yob behaviour, cultural ignorance and tactical and general idiocy that encompasses TBBM (the bloke behind me) at football. Everyone's got one. Except the board bashers, there's no-one behind them so they don't even have the self-awareness from laughing at TBBM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opthomps Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 They bring an american style spoting support from Asia. Give me them over the Turban crew at old trafford any day of the week. Difference in Asian culture is they are loyal to a fault when it comes to their own players, where as we love knocking our 'stars'. I can see both sides of the argument, I try to blend in when i watch a game abroad, but then it is a free country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 They bring an american style spoting support from Asia. Give me them over the Turban crew at old trafford any day of the week. Difference in Asian culture is they are loyal to a fault when it comes to their own players, where as we love knocking our 'stars'. I can see both sides of the argument, I try to blend in when i watch a game abroad, but then it is a free country. From watching Portland Timbers on ESPN HD earlier this week, I think the US fans more recently have actually imported a lot from the early Japanese J-League fans with their organised chanting, flags and banners. I'd be interested to know what Tijuana Tim thinks of the LA Galaxy fans' methods too, I know he went to "First Kick" this week. I don't know where the Japanese crowds got it from though, they had a few Brazilian players over there at the start so maybe a variety of South American influences ? Pretty sure the Korean K-League mostly copied the J-League (though they'd probably deny it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 From watching Portland Timbers on ESPN HD earlier this week, I think the US fans more recently have actually imported a lot from the early Japanese J-League fans with their organised chanting, flags and banners. I'd be interested to know what Tijuana Tim thinks of the LA Galaxy fans' methods too, I know he went to "First Kick" this week. I don't know where the Japanese crowds got it from though, they had a few Brazilian players over there at the start so maybe a variety of South American influences ? Pretty sure the Korean K-League mostly copied the J-League (though they'd probably deny it). I think there was a lot of South American influence at least at the start. I saw Boca play Milan in the world club cup final thing that is massive in every other country except here. I was in with the Boca fans behind the goal and there were loads of FC Tokyo fans and Tokyo Verdy fans in amongst them, enjoying the spectacle and trying to copy the support. They had on their own team tops but with Boca scarfs etc. The Boca fans kept singing from start to finish, reaching fever pitch when Tevez (I think) came on for them. Fantastic support, almost as good as the bestest from down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 I think there was a lot of South American influence at least at the start. I saw Boca play Milan in the world club cup final thing that is massive in every other country except here. I was in with the Boca fans behind the goal and there were loads of FC Tokyo fans and Tokyo Verdy fans in amongst them, enjoying the spectacle and trying to copy the support. They had on their own team tops but with Boca scarfs etc. The Boca fans kept singing from start to finish, reaching fever pitch when Tevez (I think) came on for them. Fantastic support, almost as good as the bestest from down the road. Oh yeah of course, World Club Championship, lots of exposure to South American fan culture. Cheers for that ! Most of what I know about Japanese football comes from Winning Eleven imports back on PS2, though I do have the J-League first season magazine somewhere, not that I can read it. I bet they'd have applauded Thierry Henry too... as if ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 From watching Portland Timbers on ESPN HD earlier this week, I think the US fans more recently have actually imported a lot from the early Japanese J-League fans with their organised chanting, flags and banners. I'd be interested to know what Tijuana Tim thinks of the LA Galaxy fans' methods too, I know he went to "First Kick" this week. I don't know where the Japanese crowds got it from though, they had a few Brazilian players over there at the start so maybe a variety of South American influences ? Pretty sure the Korean K-League mostly copied the J-League (though they'd probably deny it). Don't know what the atmosphere is like in Japan; but in the US the PA/scoreboard is crucial to orchestrating the crowd. You effectively get told what to say which accounts for the military precision and sometimes contrived feel of the atmosphere. The lack of segregation -also the case in Japan I assume- also makes a massive difference to what gets sung and how it gets sung. And remember baseball is still the biggest sport in Japan, and no doubt its US origins have an influence on other sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Just sorted some Dutch lads a few tickets for the Skate game. They've assured me they won't be bringing any placards. Phew. Feynord? Didn't they give that lot down the road the runaround before a friendly in all mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 I'm ashamed of some of Saints so-called supporters. If it's an extra paying customer the ground who gives a damn. Not so long ago these same so-called fans would be moaning that we don't get enough coverage on highlights programmes (we are Saints after all) yet we get a specific feature highlighting Lee's support resulting in a far bigger coverage piece and it's labelled as embarrassing. I'd far rather have a stadium of Japanese fans than I would a stadium including some of those morons we currently have. I wouldn't let it bother you - its just the usual WUMs trying to provoke a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 No foreigners at our game (especially those trouble making Japanese!). I mean come on, It's hard enough to get a ticket as it is. Who do they think they are? Coming over here, buying our football tops, supporting our teams, spending money, showing enthusiasm..... This is ********, soon I won't be able to hear the guy next to me slate Guly at the top of his voice or the mong, I mean fan next to me shout "get it forward for f$cks sake!". As for those fekin banners! don't get me started. I could hardly see anyone in the Northam wave their season ticket. As for Lee as a player, well everyone knows those foreign leagues aren't up to much. He is going to run around a lot but be a bit light weight. Luckily we have Lambert who has a good touch for a big man to make up for the naive foreign player. Hey pal, I'm not normally the kind of guy to get involved with these kind of debates, but this kind on post is totally unacceptable on here - try reading the rules about racist posts!! "Implied racism" is worth 4 infractions, so I suspect you could be in a lot more trouble if the mods are on the ball. It's not funny or clever to make racist remarks! To be honest, given your username, I half expected you to be one of the good guys on this thread who would be sticking up for our japanese friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 18 March, 2012 Share Posted 18 March, 2012 Hey pal, I'm not normally the kind of guy to get involved with these kind of debates, but this kind on post is totally unacceptable on here - try reading the rules about racist posts!! "Implied racism" is worth 4 infractions, so I suspect you could be in a lot more trouble if the mods are on the ball. It's not funny or clever to make racist remarks! To be honest, given your username, I half expected you to be one of the good guys on this thread who would be sticking up for our japanese friends. Mods, please ban this loon. Inciting football violence in the way the above post does is out of order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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