david in sweden Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 .then all their games played this season will be expunged (sounds like a plumber at work), and points deducted from teams that beat them. Boro' and Cardiff have won 4 points of them, whilst West Ham - having beaten them twice - would lose SIX points . looking at the present table ...and an eventual re-vamp and without points already won ..it would look like this .... club ..............present points ......points lost .......revised points. SAINTS -------------66----------------1-----------------65 West Ham----- --65---------------6-----------------59 Reading-------------63----------------3-----------------60 Midd'boro-----------59----------------4-----------------55 Blackpool -----------56----------------1-----------------55 B'ham---------------55----------------0-----------------55 Brighton-------------55---------------3-----------------52 Cardiff---------------54---------------4-----------------50 Hull------------------53---------------3-----------------50 ---with the prospect of that happening, it seems fairly clear that , as long as we continue to hold this form... we get a better breathing space and then it just down to us not to blow it away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Pretty sure this has been covered a few times already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 You've gone through a lot of effort making that table. But, this information has been posted countless times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 I really don't want us relying on those fish fiddlers doing us any favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 when do they have to pay their share of the policing bill for the upcoming derby @ SMS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 But West Ham would have an extra game in hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 As already mentioned, already covered in umteen places - plus they have been guaranteed £800k by the football league that should see them complete the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 8 March, 2012 You've gone through a lot of effort making that table. But, this information has been posted countless times. OK...not surprising, but been away for a while. still makes nice reading - doesn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 As already mentioned, already covered in umteen places - plus they have been guaranteed £800k by the football league that should see them complete the season. A gift of £800.000 by the FL to the club down the road is surely unorthodox and open to challenge by other clubs, especially if it is followed by improving results which save the skates from relegation at the expense of another club, I would have thought. To make it fair to all Championship clubs the FL should gift the same amount to all. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 8 March, 2012 But West Ham would have an extra game in hand? of course, but they'd still have to win it to get back in contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 A gift of £800.000 by the FL to the club down the road is surely unorthodox and open to challenge by other clubs, especially if it is followed by improving results which save the skates from relegation at the expense of another club, I would have thought. To make it fair to all Championship clubs the FL should gift the same amount to all. Thoughts? They already do, read the article properly, it's a payment that every Championship club gets! In the case of the Portsmouth the payments were suspended pending the outcome of their HMRC case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 A gift of £800.000 by the FL to the club down the road is surely unorthodox and open to challenge by other clubs, especially if it is followed by improving results which save the skates from relegation at the expense of another club, I would have thought. To make it fair to all Championship clubs the FL should gift the same amount to all. Thoughts? It's not a gift, it's just an assurance from the FL that they will receive their due revenues at the appropriate time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 A gift of £800.000 by the FL to the club down the road is surely unorthodox and open to challenge by other clubs, especially if it is followed by improving results which save the skates from relegation at the expense of another club, I would have thought. To make it fair to all Championship clubs the FL should gift the same amount to all. Thoughts? its not a gift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 They already do, read the article properly, it's a payment that every Championship club gets! In the case of the Portsmouth the payments were suspended pending the outcome of their HMRC case. True, I missed the Football League tag. Thanks for pointing it out. It also says "subject to any outstanding balances owed to other clubs" so PFC may yet have to get agreement from other clubs to waiver outstanding monies due. I wonder if any is due to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 OK...not surprising, but been away for a while. still makes nice reading - doesn't it ? NO. Fortunately it is not going to happen but it would be bad for us if it did. It is not the points gained against Pompey that are relevant but the points dropped. Our main rivals (Reading) actually lost to the skates and would effectively gain a point on us which would put them in the driving seat. Gaining the two points on West Ham would be some compensation but its Reading we have to worry about not West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painswick Saint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 In think it is very unlikely Portsmouth will be liquidated before the end of the season. The payments from the League seem to likely negate the chance of that happening. If we do go up, I hope it is down to us, and not our friends down the M27 having their results for the season expunged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 Out of interest does anyone know if any league rules are being breached if another Championship club are found to paying/helping out Portsmouth financially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 But West Ham would have an extra game in hand? Which they would play on the weekend we weren't playing Portsmouth. It's all academic now anyway, looks like the £200k a month payments to Championship clubs MIGHT bail them out until May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 In think it is very unlikely Portsmouth will be liquidated before the end of the season. The payments from the League seem to likely negate the chance of that happening. If we do go up, I hope it is down to us, and not our friends down the M27 having their results for the season expunged If their games were expunged, it would be down to us finishing top or second over a 44 match season. Nothing to do with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 As already mentioned, already covered in umteen places - plus they have been guaranteed £800k by the football league that should see them complete the season. To be fair Reading just beat the skates midweek, so will look a little different every time they play. Team at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 If the unthinkable happened and we lost to the skates, then I will hope that this is the outcome. We won't though, we will win 5-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 If the unthinkable happened and we lost to the skates, then I will hope that this is the outcome. We won't though, we will win 5-0 I'm going for 4-1, or preferably 8-2. Come to think of it, 8-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 If their games were expunged, it would be down to us finishing top or second over a 44 match season. Nothing to do with them. Yep. I dont understand all this sentimentality about them surviving. They are a boil on the arse of football that needs lancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 If its true that their running costs are £8.5m a season, £800k over the next four months still wont help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 your table is also wrong... Birmingham beat P*mpey in February 1-0 so they would be minused 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 If its true that their running costs are £8.5m a season, £800k over the next four months still wont help them. There are TWO main issues for PFC to survive. The 1st is whether they have the cash to survive to the end of the season and fulfill all the fixtures. But the 2nd is whether they can find a buyer - they cant trade in Administration for ever. As I understand it, any buyer with any sort of medium term intention will need to rebuild the stadium (unlike SFC) and to do this, they need to buy the land around the stadium (unlike SFC) which is owned by 2 x former chairmen who are owed £20+ million. This is all on top of making an offer to the Administrator and investing in the team. My view FWIW is that they will make it to the end of the season but there must be huge doubt about any sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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