Avenue Saint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Some fun. Your ideal (realistic) squad? Davis Frazer. Fonte. Jos. Fox Chaplow. Cork. Morgan. Lallana Lambert Lee Sharp. Rhodes DeRidder Butterfield Mcgugan Puncheon Harding. Pearce Martin. Clyne Bart Sell/out: Forecast (****e) Butterfield (age) Jaidi (age) Seaborne (never was good enough) Dickson (not popular with Adkins) Forte (not good enough) Hammond (captain not do-a-lot and week link in team) Holmes (injury prone) Guly (TOO inconsistent) Barnard (need better) Connolly (age) Davis Bart Richardson Clyne Jose Fonte Jos Hooiveld Jason Pearce Aaron Martin Danny Fox Dan Harding Richard Chaplow Jason Puncheon Morgan Schneiderlin Jack Cork Jacob Butterfield Lewis McGugan Adam Lallana Steve DeRidder Rickie Lambert Tadanari Lee Jordan Rhodes Billy Sharp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Hypothetically speaking.... I'd get rid of quite a few players. Connolly, Jaidi, Holmes, Forecast, Dickson, Harding, Seaborne, Hammond and probably Guly I'd say are not Prem quality and I would try to offload. Question marks over a couple of others, like Puncheon, Barnard and Bart but I would give them a go. Players in would depend largely on who goes up and who goes down. Rhodes, Hoilett, Rodallega... Just a couple of ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 I think you guys are forgetting Phillips from Blackpool...he is a must....Adamoah would give good decent back up for Lallana. I think a new left back as cover for Fox...a real quality centre half...centre mid, Goalkeeper and a striker is a must for the Prem... Sounds a lot but completely need to improve the quality to stay up in the Prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Odd. I'd say that Guly is one of the most likely players able to do a job in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Odd. I'd say that Guly is one of the most likely players able to do a job in the Prem. At best you would say he divides opinion on here. I know that isn't the measure of a players ability, but to do it in the Prem I'd have said you need to be consistently good in the NpC. Guly just isn't IMO. Plus the fact that we will need more firepower up front. We've got Lambert, Lee looks a live wire and Sharp will come good with time. We will need to offload a couple of our weaker striking options and for me that's DC and Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 (edited) I would want two players in each position. So, of the players I would keep (And restricted to naming each player in the position as I see their strongest.) Goalkeeper: Davis, New Signing Right Back: Richardson, New Signing Left Back: Fox, New Signing Centre Back 1: Hooiveld, Martin Centre Back 2: Fonte, New Signing Right Midfield: Puncheon, New Signing Left Midfield: Lallana, New Signing Central Midfield 1: Schneiderlin, Cork Central Midfield 2: Chaplow, New Signing Striker 1: Lambert, Do Prado Striker 2: Lee, Sharp So. That would stipulate the following new signings: Goalkeeper: Alex Smithees LB: ?? RB: Nathaniel Clyne CB: Ben Turner RM: Robert Snodgrass LM: Matt Phillips CM: Peter Whittingham I would also make a move for Jordan Rhodes. Ensure we have ample options up front. With the larger bench in the top flight we could be far more flexible. Also sign Gael Birgirimana from Coventry, he is going to be a superb dominant CM in years to come. Notable redundancies: Harding Bialkowski Butterfield Hammond Connolly Seaborne Jaidi Barnard Edited 8 March, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Lewis McGugan?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 we would sign about 5-6 player in the summer/jan windows.....3-4 will be regular starters. tis the way it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 I'm not sure about specific names, but a RB and LB would be a must, a CB for cover and a midfield boss too. I think Rickie, Sharp, Lee and Guly will do a job up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 I'd have a long hard look at: GK: Craig Gordon, Julian Speroni, Jack Butland RB: Nathaniel Clyne, Liam Rosenior LB: CB: Curtis Davies LM: Matthew Jarvis, Will Buckley, Kazenga LuaLua CM: Jordon Mutch, Liam Trotter, Jacob Butterfield, Mikele Leigertwood, Danns RM: Wilfried Zaha, Victor Moses CF: Matt Phillips, Nugent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojones10 Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 we will go back for hooper, then it depends who goes down from prem, and the best of the players left in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'00' Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 LB Wayne Bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Odd. I'd say that Guly is one of the most likely players able to do a job in the Prem. hahaha, good one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 hahaha, good one.. Not sure he has the makings of a Premiership starter - might make a good sub though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 lb wayne bridge? you have got be kidding? At least with Messi you know that i am not being serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 My god this is such a West Ham-esque thread. Anyway... IN Kasper Schmeichel Gary Hooper Matt Phillips Matt Jarvis Roger Johnson Peter Whittingham OUT Forecast Dickson Jaidi Seaborne De Ridder Connolly Barnard Players that will make the step up in the Prem Lambert Morgan Fox Jos Lallana Cork I also dont think it will be long until we see Luke Shaw in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 (edited) I would like to see us spend big on one player and for me that would be a Right Midfielder. Could we blow 10m of the Prem money and who would that buy us? For other positions I don't think we need to go nuts. The existing team would for me achieve a lower mid table finish. Our 4 main strikers of Lambert, Lee, Sharp & Do Prado will be fine in the Prem. Shaw hopefully can step up to be Number 2 to Fox at LB The centre midfield 4 of Morgan, Cork, Chaplow & Hammond should also be fine, though potentially you could argue the need to add better than Hammond (Ward Prowse?) Richardson needs competiton at RB, but no need to break the Bank to get it (or we gamble on Stephens being ready) We need a genuine LM backup if Lallana gets injured (will Reeves step up?) I think Davis will last one more season so, nothing urgent needed there. CB is tricky, but I would be tempted to use Harlee Dean as the 4th choice So I would budget 10m for a RM & 2m total for any/either LB, RB or LM backups if youngsters are not ready. Retire - Jaidi, Connolly Sell/Release - Harding, Barnard, Butterfield, Forte, Dickson, Holmes - 1m? Of course this plan might go horribly wrong if our new 10m right winger gets crocked on opening day. I know many will doubt the wisdom of expecting some of Stephens, Shaw, Dean, Reeves & Ward Prowse to be ready, but the club has clearly stated it expects some of the academy to make up the 1st team squad. Why waste money on average back-up players when one or 2 of these guys can make it. Edited 8 March, 2012 by Brussels Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 (edited) I'd have a long hard look at: GK: Craig Gordon, Julian Speroni, Jack Butland RB: Nathaniel Clyne, Liam Rosenior LB: CB: Curtis Davies LM: Matthew Jarvis, Will Buckley, Kazenga LuaLua CM: Jordon Mutch, Liam Trotter, Jacob Butterfield, Mikele Leigertwood, Danns RM: Wilfried Zaha, Victor Moses CF: Matt Phillips, Nugent Some good players in there. I'd suggest a few more potential targets: GK: Craig Gordon, Jason Steele RB: Nathaniel Clyne, Kieron Trippier LB: Neil Taylor, Greg Cunningham CB: Christophe Berra, Craig Dawson, Curtis Davies CM: Graham Dorrans, Michael Bostwick, Stephen McGinn, Liam Trotter RM: James Forrest, Michael Kightly LM: Jobi McAnuff, Craig Conway ST: Hugo Rodallega, Ishmael Miller Get rid: Forecast, Butterfield, Jaidi, Seaborne, Harding, Holmes, Forte, Connolly, Barnard Edited 8 March, 2012 by SuperMikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Of course this plan might go horribly wrong if our new 10m right winger gets crocked on opening day. I know many will doubt the wisdom of expecting some of Stephens, Shaw, Dean, Reeves & Ward Prowse to be ready, but the club has clearly stated it expects some of the academy to make up the 1st team squad. Why waste money on average back-up players when one or 2 of these guys can make it. Rupert Lowe taught you well, but your jedi management tricks will be no match for the premier league! I am one of those doubters. Instead I argue that we follow Norwich's example and cherry pick the most exciting players from the lower leagues, players that can clearly step up, no prima donnas, no bad apples, no cut price italian imports. Introduce the best youngsters as we go, I have no problem with that. Others have named good candidates already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 I'd expect a fair few cuts from the present group, far more than most suggest. I'd think only about 14/15 of our current squad will be part of the 25 for next season if we make the PL. Don't think Bart will be of that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Curtis Davies would be my first signing should Brum not go up, along with a GK like Foster, Robinson or Hennessey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Curtis Davies would be my first signing should Brum not go up, along with a GK like Foster, Robinson or Hennessey foster, not a chance in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 LB Wayne Bridge? If his wage demands were in check...... why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 If his wage demands were in check...... why not? Because he's too old and no doubt not good enough for the PL any more. Where's he playing these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughba Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 current squad would be fine.... Maybe new goalkeeper... Alex Smithies, Kasper Schmeicher, Jason Steele? Right back to cover for Richardson as well, Left back cover for Fox, Harding would only be trouble in the PL :S ... I see Hoillett is coming to end of contract, even though spurs seem to be v.interested in him, would be a quality signing if possible, Defoe perhaps, seems unhappy at spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 If Wigan go down I'd like to see us enquire about Al Habsi, their keeper. He always looks like the best player in their defence, possibly because he is kept so busy. We will definitely need a CM and a RM and there are some good suggestions on this thread. It would be good to break out transfer record this summer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Wake up guys this is a new era at St Mary's. If you sign a contract there is an expectation that you honour it. It works both ways. If any player wants to leave to get more regular football then we should help them find a new club but if they are prepared to get their head down and work for a first team slot then good luck to them. Even Forte and Dickson. That said, I think there is an understanding that two expired contracts will not be renewed (Jaidi & Connolly). To strengthen the squad I would add just two players - Schmeicel in goal and Hooper up front. Even then, they may have to wait to secure a regular slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 foster, not a chance in hell Why not out of interest? Are you saying he's out of our range or not good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Why not out of interest? Are you saying he's out of our range or not good enough? WBA will sign him perm for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 I think next season we need to look at making sure are young stars are given 1st team football to develop and become future prem stars, and by doing so we should then just sign some experienced players at positions like CM CB and RB and poss RM, im sure were be able to sign 31/32 year olds on 2/3 years deals to then allow us to bring through the promising youngsters i think we should loan out to league one and championship teams. Bialkowski,Butterfield Harding Seaborne Jaidi Hammond,Connolly and Barnard all to go. Loan out Ward Prowse Luke Shaw Aarron Martin Jack Stephens and Jake Sinclair, all who i believe can become 1st team players in 2/3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Some good players in there. I'd suggest a few more potential targets: GK: Craig Gordon, Jason Steele RB: Nathaniel Clyne, Kieron Trippier LB: Neil Taylor, Greg Cunningham CB: Christophe Berra, Craig Dawson, Curtis Davies CM: Graham Dorrans, Michael Bostwick, Stephen McGinn, Liam Trotter RM: James Forrest, Michael Kightly LM: Jobi McAnuff, Craig Conway ST: Hugo Rodallega, Ishmael Miller Get rid: Forecast, Butterfield, Jaidi, Seaborne, Harding, Holmes, Forte, Connolly, Barnard i8s that Cunningham at Forest? He's been "Ok" according to my Forest supporting brother in law. As for Miller, "don't touch with a barge pole. Always injured." McAnuff and Dawson would go on my list. Can't believe I forgot to list the latter. Funny how almost everyone would get rid of Butterfield yet he got a new one year deal extension. Wonder what peoples thoughts are on perhaps having to pay one or two of these £30k a week to get them. We deride the skates for giving TBH a £36k a week contract, but that only looks horrific because a) he hasn't performed and b) cos they can't offload because he hasn't performed). That could happen with any player. I* think the players I have listed and the ones above might not all want that eye watering figure, but if you spend £8m on Zaha or Philips aren't they going to want £30k a week too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Someone equal to Lallana on the other wing would be great. I suspect Messi will stay at Barca to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 If his wage demands were in check...... why not? because he's not very good anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Because he's too old and no doubt not good enough for the PL any more. Where's he playing these days? In form Sunderland (on and off.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 8 March, 2012 Share Posted 8 March, 2012 Trouble is... we'll be unable to flog off a few of those who are not getting a game. For example, Butterfield has just signed a new deal for next year and you can guarantee that he'll be on more wedge than he'll get at another NPC club, likewise Barnard, Harding so we're unlikely to move them on if they are in fact deemed surplus to requirements. I'm not talking about new players - makes you sound like Fat Sam Allardyce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 Trouble is... we'll be unable to flog off a few of those who are not getting a game. For example, Butterfield has just signed a new deal for next year and you can guarantee that he'll be on more wedge than he'll get at another NPC club, likewise Barnard, Harding so we're unlikely to move them on if they are in fact deemed surplus to requirements. I'm not talking about new players - makes you sound like Fat Sam Allardyce. Not so sure about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 In GK : Kasper Schmichael LB: ?? (foreign international signing) CB: Curtis Davies RB: Nathanial Clyne RM: Matt Philips LM: Albert Adamoah CM: Jacob Butterfield, Robert Snodgrass CF: Gary Hooper Out's GK:Bialkowski, Foreskin LB: Harding, Dickson RB: Butterfield CB: Jaidi, Seabourne LM: Puncheon CF: Barnard, Connolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 LB: ?? (foreign international signing) There's a highly rated and emotionally stable Belgian we could try. Sounds like a film start.... oh, what's his name...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 I would want two players in each position. So, of the players I would keep (And restricted to naming each player in the position as I see their strongest.Goalkeeper: Davis, New Signing Right Back: Richardson, New Signing Left Back: Fox, New Signing. Centre Back 1: Hooiveld, Martin Centre Back 2: Fonte, New Signings . Right Midfield: Puncheon, New Signing Left Midfield: Lallana, New Signing Central Midfield 1: Schneiderlin, Cork Central Midfield 2: Chaplow, New Signing Striker 1: Lambert, Do Prado. Striker 2: Lee, Sharp So. That would stipulate the following new signings: Goalkeeper: Alex Smithees LB: ?? RB: Nathaniel Clyne CB: Ben Turner RM: Robert Snodgrass LM: Matt Phillips CM: Peter Whittingham I would also make a move for Jordan Rhodes. Ensure we have ample options up front. With the larger bench in the top flight we could be far more flexible. Also sign Gael Birgirimana from Coventry, he is going to be a superb dominant CM in years to come. Notable redundancies: Harding Bialkowski Butterfield Hammond Connolly Seaborne Jaidi Barnard I think I'd go along with 99% of that Colin. with exceptions that I'd buy another striker, as I don't consider Guly to be a striker...but the MF who can score most. You've omitted Lee Holmes, who i don't think has been written off YET (not by me anyway)... Can't comment on your choice of new signings.(don't see enough "other " UK football to comment), but I do think we might look at one of Lee's pals. The Japanse keeper who kept a clean sheet in the Asian Cup Final was a real brute. Fantastic saves and really kept his defenders in order ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 March, 2012 Share Posted 9 March, 2012 You know who I'd love us to sign?! http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_7249158,00.html Nostalgia is a dream world Adrian...some have got the axe out for Connolly already. Remember when we signed Inigo ..what's his - Spain ? people thought he was too old before he kicked a ball, and it was injuries that kept him out . Nice try, though ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 Writing this whilst crossing fingers (difficult), touching wood, asking for forgiveness for even thinking about it before we are there but what the hell, it's a bit of fun. GK- Davis would deserve his chance, but another younger keeper needs to be signed - Lewis or Kasper LB - Fox will be fine, would let Harding go (believe he's lost confidence this year and a shadow of the player he was for us when he first came), let Shaw be groomed. If he is as good as people are making out, don't see the problem in playing him. Can always buy in Jan if need cover. CB, Hoovield, Fonte, Martin Plus two from Davis, Gorkss or Hobbs. Still think we need 4 quality centre backs in the prem and Martin is not ready, nor may he ever be, RB - Richardson, Butterfield and Stephens (don't see the point in spending big if we have a good young player coming through). LM Lallana, and buy some cover Snodgrass, Zaha, Moses, (do not believe a big club will be in for any of them and all can play in other positions CM - Morgan, Cork, Chaplow, + buy Whittingham and a head with Prem experience. Would love to see Surman back. RM - De Ridder, Keep Puncheon as backup CF- Lambert, Lee, Sharp and one of Hooper or Rodriguez. Release/sell the rest. I can see us spending a fair bit if we go up. We'd be ahead of schedule of the 5 year plan and whilst the nucleus is there I think we need an injection of pace in the side. I think De Ridder will come good, really worried about defence ( cover more that anything else) and centre midfield would get found out pretty quickly IMO. Lallana, Lambet, Fox, I think will be excellent Prem players. The rest as it stands can go either way. Would love to see us go at it like Swansea and attack each game. And for those of you who doubt De Ridder, I still believe he is better than Dyer. Really think if we don't get a fair few players in we will struggle. Honestly think the Championship this year is weaker than its been in many a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 Sooner we get promoted the better Then we can throw a few of the kids in to get some game time in less pressure games as said above they will be the future stars of the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 Sooner we get promoted the better Then we can throw a few of the kids in to get some game time in less pressure games as said above they will be the future stars of the clubyep, love to see Shaw in the last game if the season a la Bale against Milwall a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 Thank God we have Adkins running the show. Most of the ideas here would completely destabilise the squad and we would struggle. I think a lot of people will be disappointed with our summer transfer activity but pleased with the outcome if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fen Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 I would want two players in each position. So, of the players I would keep (And restricted to naming each player in the position as I see their strongest.) Goalkeeper: Davis, New Signing Right Back: Richardson, New Signing Left Back: Fox, New Signing Centre Back 1: Hooiveld, Martin Centre Back 2: Fonte, New Signing Right Midfield: Puncheon, New Signing Left Midfield: Lallana, New Signing Central Midfield 1: Schneiderlin, Cork Central Midfield 2: Chaplow, New Signing Striker 1: Lambert, Do Prado Striker 2: Lee, Sharp So. That would stipulate the following new signings: Goalkeeper: Alex Smithees LB: ?? RB: Nathaniel Clyne CB: Ben Turner RM: Robert Snodgrass LM: Matt Phillips CM: Peter Whittingham I would also make a move for Jordan Rhodes. Ensure we have ample options up front. With the larger bench in the top flight we could be far more flexible. Also sign Gael Birgirimana from Coventry, he is going to be a superb dominant CM in years to come. Notable redundancies: Harding Bialkowski Butterfield Hammond Connolly Seaborne Jaidi Barnard Probably agree most if not all of this. Rhodes I think will be a hell of a signing for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 a realistic target for a keeper is Paul Robinson, who wants away from Blackburn. He is out of contract in June. He has also stated he wants move back south for his families sake ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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