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If they had Rickie lambert in their team. Fat Sam just said so in his post match interview. Basically said they create so many chances but cannot finish enough.

 

Bit disrespectful to our lads... Although he just told his players he rates lambert higher than (former) England international carlton cole, £2million man Maynard, international John Carew and also £2.5m man Sam Baldock.

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haha....I think I heard on the radio that he changed over all the forward line during the game..

 

he really is not that good...just got a squad full of good players and just "throws" them at the game..

Nolan better than morgan or lallana.....dont think so

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Booed by the fans at half-time, when he made subs and at full-time.

 

After the game he says: "If we had Rickie Lambert we would of won the league weeks ago."

 

A little dig at Saints?

 

Poor old Sam, spent all that money, has 10 strikers and none are as good as Rickie...but that's not easy to be.

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If they had Rickie lambert in their team. Fat Sam just said so in his post match interview. Basically said they create so many chances but cannot finish enough.

 

Bit disrespectful to our lads... Although he just told his players he rates lambert higher than (former) England international carlton cole, £2million man Maynard, international John Carew and also £2.5m man Sam Baldock.

 

I suggest we just sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the potential spectacle of a West Ham implosion.

 

He's just offended his striker force, and motivated our lads by dissing them.

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I suggest we just sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the potential spectacle of a West Ham implosion.

 

He's just offended his striker force, and motivated our lads by dissing them.

 

do me a favour! what is this obsession with some of our lot thinking the at WHU are about to implode? Is it jealously that they have not gone on such a poor run as we did over Dec/Jan? Do you think they are owed that?

 

I think they actually do better away and are probably more nervous at home because of their supporters. I have no doubt whatsoever that they will be promoted auto, there's only 3 teams in it and they have the strongest squad on paper by far.

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Not sure it's a dig at us at all, more a complement to a very good stiker.

 

Obviosly it depends on how he said it!

 

...whilst using all his man management skills to further motivate his existing ones. Oh.

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Or is he trying top motivate them to prove him wrong? We all know that Rickie has been the best striker in this league so far this season, and long may it last! I think what last nights results show is how open this league is, we went to watford a beat them at a canter 10 days ago & west ham only get a draw at once upon a time park with them. This league is going down to the wire!

 

COYS

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I suggest we just sit back, put our feet up, and enjoy the potential spectacle of a West Ham implosion.

 

He's just offended his striker force, and motivated our lads by dissing them.

 

...and made Sir Rickie feel 10ft tall into the bargain.

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do me a favour! what is this obsession with some of our lot thinking the at WHU are about to implode? Is it jealously that they have not gone on such a poor run as we did over Dec/Jan? Do you think they are owed that?

 

I think they actually do better away and are probably more nervous at home because of their supporters. I have no doubt whatsoever that they will be promoted auto, there's only 3 teams in it and they have the strongest squad on paper by far.

 

and yet they are in second and have pretty much done no more than us results wise....so do they have a crap manager or is the team not as good in real life as it is on paper?

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True, it's a very strange thing to say at such a time, sounds almost desperate!

 

Reminds me a bit of when ****flaps arrived and basically to absolve himself of all the blame if we did eventually get relegated said he was taking on an impossible task and needed to get in at least 5 players on loan to stand a chance of staying up.

 

I'm sure that filled the players with confidence and a desire to prove the manager wrong - yeah sure thing. Completely dispelled the theory that he was a great man manager in one day at the club. Meanwhile at the same time Bryan Robson was taking over WBA who were marooned at the bottom of the table and basically praised all of his players and guess who got relegated and guess who stayed up.

 

Dissing players off in public does not help the situation at all. In private or even in the changing room - but to the press, just comes across as bullying. Hope he reaps the rewards and his front players all suffer a crisis of confidence.

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I think BS is right ... with RL upfront they would be well clear. Should take it as a compliment.

 

Also agree with Colinjb ... mind games at play here

 

Lets face it Dagenham & Redbridge would be top of the Prem if they had had RLSGM last season and this. (Another (mis)quote made by a manager under pressure from us - Mr Monkey Man)

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More mind games. Am I the only one who thinks that?

 

I think that credits Sam with too much intelligence, its more likely a knee jerk response said in frustration.

If he'd thought about it more he probably wouldn't have said it - its not the best way to motivate your team.

 

He needs a copy of the Adkins "on the bus, together as one" book of man management

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I think it probable that thy would be well ahead if they had a decent manager, such as NA.

 

If fact I predict that Reading and Saints will get automatic mainly because of the calm intelligent qualities and skill of their managers whilst WHU will fail in the playoffs with their manager huffing and puffing and blaming everyone else.

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and yet they are in second and have pretty much done no more than us results wise....so do they have a crap manager or is the team not as good in real life as it is on paper?

 

teams are never as good on paper, ala Saints and Brighton last year, we should have won that league by miles with the squad we had, what i am saying though, is that WHU should be good enough to be promoted and it amazes me when some of the posters on here think they are not good and will collapse. That may well happen, and I hope it does, but i think it is unlikely, they have so much strength in depth and they have players that can score soals. And they are certainly good enoufgh, they have, like us, proved that all season.Finally, as far ar Fat Sam is concerned, to say he is a crap manager is ridiculous! You may well not like his style, but he kept BW in the Prem, took em to Europe and they never looked like getting relegated until he left. His venture at Newcastle was always going to fail with what was happening with that club at the time and again, another stint at Blackburn resulted in him being sacked when they were 13th! How thet could do with him now. And here he is sitting 2nd in the Championship, a game in hand won and they would be top. Their first season down here and they are going straight back up, a feat many clubs fail to do, we didn't! Yeah, he has spent money, what manager wouldn't? That does not guarantee you anything and nearly cost us last year.

Aside from all that, Fat Sam, what a crap manager!

Some people need to appreciate that Saints are not the only club around.

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Their first season down here and they are going straight back up, a feat many clubs fail to do, we didn't! Yeah, he has spent money, what manager wouldn't? That does not guarantee you anything and nearly cost us last year.

Aside from all that, Fat Sam, what a crap manager!

Some people need to appreciate that Saints are not the only club around.

 

 

Jumping the gun a bit to state that they are going back up again. Probably, but not definitely.

 

Our not going back up had plenty to do with two things; firstly we took the 10 points penalty that season, instead of the season before, secondly, the parachute payments were at a comparatively low level when we went down and WH have that considerable advantage.

 

Spending money last season nearly cost us? What are you going on about?

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teams are never as good on paper, ala Saints and Brighton last year, we should have won that league by miles with the squad we had, what i am saying though, is that WHU should be good enough to be promoted and it amazes me when some of the posters on here think they are not good and will collapse. That may well happen, and I hope it does, but i think it is unlikely, they have so much strength in depth and they have players that can score soals. And they are certainly good enoufgh, they have, like us, proved that all season.Finally, as far ar Fat Sam is concerned, to say he is a crap manager is ridiculous! You may well not like his style, but he kept BW in the Prem, took em to Europe and they never looked like getting relegated until he left. His venture at Newcastle was always going to fail with what was happening with that club at the time and again, another stint at Blackburn resulted in him being sacked when they were 13th! How thet could do with him now. And here he is sitting 2nd in the Championship, a game in hand won and they would be top. Their first season down here and they are going straight back up, a feat many clubs fail to do, we didn't! Yeah, he has spent money, what manager wouldn't? That does not guarantee you anything and nearly cost us last year.

Aside from all that, Fat Sam, what a crap manager!

Some people need to appreciate that Saints are not the only club around.

 

Fair enough I like this from a WHU fan on KUMB, he isn't alone either.

 

One thing I kept finding myself thinking last night, was how we have absolutely nobody that gets the juices flowing when they get the ball. No flair. No excitement. Blimey, I even used to enjoy seeing Konchesky have a run down the left last time we were down here.

 

I actually think, dare I say this, we just ain't very good. We have poor players, and I think really it is as simple as that as to why we are not running away with the league. With the exception of Green, Tomkins, Faye Nolan, and Noble, the rest of them are just avarage players in an average team.

 

I'm not looking forward to promotion, because unless a totally new team is built, we are going to get seriously punished week in week out.

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Fair enough I like this from a WHU fan on KUMB, he isn't alone either.

 

One thing I kept finding myself thinking last night, was how we have absolutely nobody that gets the juices flowing when they get the ball. No flair. No excitement. Blimey, I even used to enjoy seeing Konchesky have a run down the left last time we were down here.

 

I actually think, dare I say this, we just ain't very good. We have poor players, and I think really it is as simple as that as to why we are not running away with the league. With the exception of Green, Tomkins, Faye Nolan, and Noble, the rest of them are just avarage players in an average team.

 

I'm not looking forward to promotion, because unless a totally new team is built, we are going to get seriously punished week in week out.

 

Personally I think people have over rated WHU for most of the season they certainaly aren't any better than us.

 

Doh meant to edit my own post not reply to it....

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Jumping the gun a bit to state that they are going back up again. Probably, but not definitely.

 

Our not going back up had plenty to do with two things; firstly we took the 10 points penalty that season, instead of the season before, secondly, the parachute payments were at a comparatively low level when we went down and WH have that considerable advantage.

 

Spending money last season nearly cost us? What are you going on about?

 

dont understand what you are going on about the points deduction, we didnt go back up from the championship to the PL because we were not good enough and spent no money, and had an idiot in charge for half the season, the points deduction came later....

last season we were way off Brighton, and had Huddersfield chasing us all the way, we only clinched auto promo in the at last game (or was it last away game..?) at Plymouth, no guarantees in the play offs, so it could have gone very badly after all the money we spent.

HTH

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dont understand what you are going on about the points deduction, we didnt go back up from the championship to the PL because we were not good enough and spent no money, and had an idiot in charge for half the season, the points deduction came later....

last season we were way off Brighton, and had Huddersfield chasing us all the way, we only clinched auto promo in the at last game (or was it last away game..?) at Plymouth, no guarantees in the play offs, so it could have gone very badly after all the money we spent.

HTH

 

In fairness WHU would probably be struggling if they sacked big sam early doors put some coach in charge who managed to loose three games in a row before installing a new manager. Take 9pts of WHU for a management change over this season, as we did last season, and they'd be 9th. The only reason we didn't finish above brigton was becuase of the chaos cuased by a manager change all IMO of course.

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If they had Rickie lambert in their team. Fat Sam just said so in his post match interview. Basically said they create so many chances but cannot finish enough.

 

Bit disrespectful to our lads... Although he just told his players he rates lambert higher than (former) England international carlton cole, £2million man Maynard, international John Carew and also £2.5m man Sam Baldock.

 

Or Piquionne, out on loan.

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I don't think West Ham have done any better or any worse than the value of their side would predict. I don't think their manager

changes very much at all in the equation.West Ham aren't all that good at home and seem to have difficulty in breaking down middling sides there.That's about player quality rather than management ability.

To me there are now 3 candidates for 2 automatic promotion place and we're probably the favourites to obtain 1 of them because we've more points on the board already.Having said that the 2 successful sides will probably be decided in the 2 games between the candidates and unfortunately for Reading they're away both times. Still don't count West Ham as an absolute certainty to go up though, never have.

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