Bridge Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 What the hell was going on last night? Guly for most of the game played so deep in our half, it was like we had two right backs. Did anyone witness any overlapping or runs towards goal after a pass? Do you think it was Nigel's game plan, God know's he let it go on for so long before he made a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 The thing about Guly is that, if he has a good game, he's very good, but if he is off form, it's like playing with 10 men. He can make things happen so he's worth having in the team, but if it's not happening then we need to recognise it and bring him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 He was very very deep for most of the time he was on the pitch, only Adkins knows why I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 The way Richardson was playing last night it's probably a good thing Guly was there helping out............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWY Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 The Ipswich left back Cresswell is a real threat going forward, (Fox like left foot delivery) I'd imagine that Guly was told to track back when he pushed on which he did really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 The way Richardson was playing last night it's probably a good thing Guly was there helping out............. As I've said before, he's struggled to keep up with the (very) high standards he set in the first couple of months of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 As I've said before, he's struggled to keep up with the (very) high standards he set in the first couple of months of the season. They tend not to play very well in the winter either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 They tend not to play very well in the winter either. Who are you referring to as 'they', pray tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Who are you referring to as 'they', pray tell? South Americans. They generally dont tend to perform in the winter months. Name one doing well at the moment. What did you think i ment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 South Americans. They generally dont tend to perform in the winter months. Name one doing well at the moment. What did you think i ment? Alos noticed that under a longer period too, Turkish. Those with a Latin temprament seem to flourish when the sun shines, but don't like the icy winter weather. OK I know Brazil may not be counted as Latin, but players who have grown up in "warmer climes". As soon as the sun begins to shine and the warmer days arrive, Guly will be back in the goals again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 They tend not to play very well in the winter either. He was talking about Richardson. Don't let that get in the way of your prejudice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 South Americans. They generally dont tend to perform in the winter months. Name one doing well at the moment. What did you think i ment? Richardson is south American.......well I never:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 He was talking about Richardson. Don't let that get in the way of your prejudice. What are you on about? Name me a south American player currenty doing well in the premier league. Aguero was on fire up until about November and struggled since. The fact is a lot of south American players are much less effective in the colder months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 South Americans. They generally dont tend to perform in the winter months. Name one doing well at the moment. What did you think i ment? Yeah, thought as much. Given that the post you quoted was talking about Richardson your comment was exactly as clever as I assumed. Helps if you name the subject of your ire in a sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Yeah, thought as much. Given that the post you quoted was talking about Richardson your comment was exactly as clever as I assumed. Helps if you name the subject of your ire in a sentence. And the thread was on about Guly and Richardson. It really isn't difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Kevin Richardson was also sh1t in the winter months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvaughanwilliams Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 After Ipswich had a spell of good possession in the second half, I think we switched formation to the diamond in midfield. Guly may have then had too much discipline to the formation, playing narrow in midfield and being pushed back when their winger had the ball. It stopped us from being overrun in midfield from their 4-5-1 formation, but didn't suit the players we had on the pitch, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 After Chaplow who's been hit and miss since his return, Guly gives us more defensively than any of our other wide midfielders. He can't tackle but he tracks back and closes -hence why he was brought on at Leeds. They exploited the space down the wings; but I don't how much is due to Guly or our widemen are naturally tucked in. Its not the first time opposing fullbacks have enjoyed success against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 IMO Guly had a very good Disciplined game, I'm sick to death of this needless Guly bashing. Last night the knob heads behind me berated Guly for losing possession in a tight area when he had very little space or passing options but they didn't mutter a word when Richardson constantly passed to the opposition when faced with little or no pressure!!! Just summed up our witch hunting fan base! Where are the threads asking why Hammond and Morgan went missing last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 It isn't a coincident that Richardson has provided 11 assists and Fox 10. It is the fullbacks who are providing the crosses in this team. It is therefore a bit silly to ask the wide men to do the same thing unless you put some restraint on the respective fullback. SDR's problems to shine may have something to do with that he has got constant competition on the wide right and that neither him nor FR considers themselves to be a provider. It didn't take long for Guly to find that out, and being a provider by inclination he is sending FR down the line. That, of course, means that he will play from deeper. To criticise him for it isn't very well informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 IMO Guly had a very good Disciplined game, I'm sick to death of this needless Guly bashing. Last night the knob heads behind me berated Guly for losing possession in a tight area when he had very little space or passing options but they didn't mutter a word when Richardson constantly passed to the opposition when faced with little or no pressure!!! Just summed up our witch hunting fan base! Where are the threads asking why Hammond and Morgan went missing last night? Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 After Chaplow who's been hit and miss since his return, Guly gives us more defensively than any of our other wide midfielders. He can't tackle but he tracks back and closes -hence why he was brought on at Leeds. They exploited the space down the wings; but I don't how much is due to Guly or our widemen are naturally tucked in. Its not the first time opposing fullbacks have enjoyed success against us. Actually he can, very well, as he demonstrated on numerous occassions last night. Several times he tackled to win the ball back from Ipswich, passed to Hammond who then promptly gave the ball back to Ipswich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 IMO Guly had a very good Disciplined game, I'm sick to death of this needless Guly bashing. Last night the knob heads behind me berated Guly for losing possession in a tight area when he had very little space or passing options but they didn't mutter a word when Richardson constantly passed to the opposition when faced with little or no pressure!!! Just summed up our witch hunting fan base! Where are the threads asking why Hammond and Morgan went missing last night? Agreed, Hammond was the biggest culprit last night (if we need to find culprits). It was also clear why Adkins does not play Hammond as first choice any more, because when he plays Morgan is also less effective. Hammond and Richardson were woeful last night in terms of passing and putting their own players back in trouble. For Richardson that was quite unusual, and we don't have much of an option anyway, for Hammond we need Morgan and Cork back in the middle, or Morgan and Chaplow. I'm afraid our skipper is one of the weakest links in the team these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 lets just be honest, guly is OK...he (like one or two others) would get destroyed in the prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 It isn't a coincident that Richardson has provided 11 assists and Fox 10. It is the fullbacks who are providing the crosses in this team. It is therefore a bit silly to ask the wide men to do the same thing unless you put some restraint on the respective fullback. SDR's problems to shine may have something to do with that he has got constant competition on the wide right and that neither him nor FR considers themselves to be a provider. It didn't take long for Guly to find that out, and being a provider by inclination he is sending FR down the line. That, of course, means that he will play from deeper. To criticise him for it isn't very well informed. Most of Foxs assits have come from set pieces though rather than crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 (edited) Actually he can, very well, as he demonstrated on numerous occassions last night. Several times he tackled to win the ball back from Ipswich, passed to Hammond who then promptly gave the ball back to Ipswich. Still, he doesnt exactly inspire confidence- for every clean tackle he makes, he'll give away a needless freekick in a dangerous position. Edited 7 March, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 lets just be honest, guly is OK...he (like one or two others) would get destroyed in the prem I think a lot of people said the same about our players making the step up to the championship from league 1 the only way we will find out is by playing them in the PL and see if theymake the step up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I think a lot of people said the same about our players making the step up to the championship from league 1 the only way we will find out is by playing them in the PL and see if theymake the step up not really..it was obvious Lambert, lallana, davis, richardson, fonte, morgan would easily step up.........we have change most of the rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 not really..it was obvious Lambert, lallana, davis, richardson, fonte, morgan would easily step up.........we have change most of the rest... Yeah all those threads about how Lambert wasn't up to it and how we needed to sign about 15 new players, on here last summer, was a sign that loads of people thought it was obvoius they'd make the step up.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Yeah all those threads about how Lambert wasn't up to it and how we needed to sign about 15 new players, on here last summer, was a sign that loads of people thought it was obvoius they'd make the step up.......... all those threads...? please feel free to share links.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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