The9 Posted 6 March, 2012 Share Posted 6 March, 2012 Take a look at their remaining fixtures : Championship Reading v Leicester Sat 10 Mar 15:00 Championship Doncaster v Reading Tue 13 Mar 19:45 Championship Barnsley v Reading Sat 17 Mar 15:00 Championship Peterborough v Reading Tue 20 Mar 19:45 Championship Reading v Blackpool Sat 24 Mar 15:00 Championship West Ham v Reading Sat 31 Mar 15:00 Championship Reading v Leeds United Fri 6 Apr 14:00 Championship Brighton v Reading Tue 10 Apr 19:45 Championship Southampton v Reading Fri 13 Apr 19:45 Championship Reading v Nottm Forest Tue 17 Apr 19:45 Championship Reading v Crystal Palace Sat 21 Apr 15:00 Championship Birmingham v Reading Sat 28 Apr 12:30 Ok the first 4 don't look too tricky, but if they finish above us with that lot to play in their last 8 games, they'll deserve it. They have to play 1st and 2nd, 6th and 7th away, as well as 5th, 10th, 11th and 12th at home. Plus 3 teams in the bottom half. Meanwhile Saints have to play 4th, 5th, 9th, and 12 away, 3rd at home, plus 6 teams in the bottom half. We certainly have an easier looking run in, along with West Ham though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 6 March, 2012 Share Posted 6 March, 2012 positions don't really mean fck all as tonight proved. all games are tough for us and them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 6 March, 2012 positions don't really mean fck all as tonight proved. all games are tough for us and them. Nice theory, but as Ipswich had won 5 of their last 6 that clearly shows that form is important, and the league table is the indicator of the whole season's form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Take a look at their remaining fixtures : Championship Reading v Leicester Sat 10 Mar 15:00 Championship Doncaster v Reading Tue 13 Mar 19:45 Championship Barnsley v Reading Sat 17 Mar 15:00 Championship Peterborough v Reading Tue 20 Mar 19:45 Championship Reading v Blackpool Sat 24 Mar 15:00 Championship West Ham v Reading Sat 31 Mar 15:00 Championship Reading v Leeds United Fri 6 Apr 14:00 Championship Brighton v Reading Tue 10 Apr 19:45 Championship Southampton v Reading Fri 13 Apr 19:45 Championship Reading v Nottm Forest Tue 17 Apr 19:45 Championship Reading v Crystal Palace Sat 21 Apr 15:00 Championship Birmingham v Reading Sat 28 Apr 12:30 Ok the first 4 don't look too tricky, but if they finish above us with that lot to play in their last 8 games, they'll deserve it. They have to play 1st and 2nd, 6th and 7th away, as well as 5th, 10th, 11th and 12th at home. Plus 3 teams in the bottom half. Meanwhile Saints have to play 4th, 5th, 9th, and 12 away, 3rd at home, plus 6 teams in the bottom half. We certainly have an easier looking run in, along with West Ham though. So you're not worried about Reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I still think were better than Reading. At times in the first half we were excellent but just tired due to our extersions on Saturday. Their game in hand is a tricky away one and were 3 pts ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Just to note that whilst Brum (a) sounds tough it will very much depend on whether they have made playoffs by then. If they have then they'll put out a 2nd XI and it could be a stroll for Reading. Let's all hope they still need 3 points going into that game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I reckon Reading can win the next 5 as well until they play West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'00' Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 A win run will not last......has to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 They look a bit like we did last year IMHO..............I am worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 A win run will not last......has to end. Bet Huddersfield fans were saying the same about us last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Very good thread & puts perspective to the morning after. Boy was I disappointed last night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Personally, I am worried about Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 At the end of the season, if we are staring down the gunbarrels of another season in this division, it will be this match, those against Donny away and, Bristol City both times, and any other screw ups to come, we will be dwelling on. For me, the matches against Leicester, Cardiff, Reading away, Brum away and Blackpool home are the understandable consequences of playing the other teams in or expected to be part of the promotion/play-off mix. But the ones listed above against lower division teams could possibly have been avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I think Leicester will beat them and they'll draw with Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Is it just me or do they seem to play someone sh*t every week? I know they beat Boro away recently but they seem to be beating all the teams that they'd be expected to beat, and usually only by the odd goal. I think we'll keep plugging away and pick up enough points to stay above them. The game against them at SMS is starting to look huge though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 It's only Reading FFS. They are on an amazing run but they will drop points like everyone else. We always seem to make out other teams to be some kind of unstoppable footballing powerhouse. The truth is, if you're up competing at the top of the league which we have been for two seasons now, you're surrounded by good sides who win more than they lose. As of today we are the best team in the league on merit so we shouldn't worry about others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Is it just me or do they seem to play someone sh*t every week? I know they beat Boro away recently but they seem to be beating all the teams that they'd be expected to beat, and usually only by the odd goal. I think we'll keep plugging away and pick up enough points to stay above them. The game against them at SMS is starting to look huge though. This, and according to a couple of neutral fans i know that watch them they are scraping one goal victorys playing crap football and winning unconvincingly. However, they are still winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I think Leicester will beat them and they'll draw with Barnsley. It depends which Leicester turn up. They are either very good or very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I think we should be very worried about them, we have some tricky away games ourselves and they went on a similar run of form last season to go steaming into the play-offs out of nowhere. The worrying things is by the sounds of it, they haven't even played well in the last few games and still keep winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I reckon Reading will only get 17 more points. After Leicester they have 3 away games, even if they're against fairly poor opposition they will drop points somewhere there, I don't even think they'll beat Leicester this weekend. The block of 5 games from Blackpool to us will be extremely hard for them. but if they come through that patch winning nearly all of them they they deserve promotion. There is still loads to play for for all three teams but I'm confident that we'll finish in the top two, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I work with a number of Reading fans and their opinions seem bizarre. They all seem to agree that they are playing dreadfully but grinding out wins (not really sure how you can play dreadfully and grind out seven wins in a row!). They seem very pessimistic about their chances, which again I find surprising as they really remind me of us last season. One thing they do say is they have found a formula to win the scrappy games – last night being a prime example. I haven’t watched them in months so have no idea how they are playing, but it will be very interesting to see how they fair in a couple of weeks time when they play West Ham and a couple of other tricky games. Looking at the fixtures though, I reckon their winning run will go on for a fair few games yet. It’s going to be so close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I'm not worried about Reading, they have become a very good team and hard to beat. They'll likely win the league if they keep going like this. What worries me is that we are slipping down into the play-off mixer and we can't win promotion that way because the play-off final is always dour, rugged, physical, long ball scrapping which we don't do and can't do. Imagine having to play Birmingham or Middlesborough at Wembley on TV. Oh ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 7 wins in a row is mighty impressive lets not deny it but law of averages says this cant carry on. I saw them beat Boro 2-0 and while efficient they are nothing to be afraid of. As long as we beat them at our place we can put our destiny in our own hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 For goodness sake, last week it was Birmingham who were going to win the league at a canter with us dropping down into the playoffs and now they are 5th and we are top! I swear that there has to be one 'unstoppable' challenger from below otherwise this forum would go into some kind of melt down. Yes last night was very disappointing given that Reading won, but there is still a long way to go. We are still in the driving seat and if we do our job properly then we will go up in the top 2. Teams will come at us and then fade away like Brum did, but there have only been 2 teams consistently up there for the majority of the season and they are us and WHU. Who would have thought Brum would lose to Forest and then throw away a 2 goal lead at home to Derby - it just shows ANYTHING can happen in this league. I'd much rather have our run in than Reading's and I'm confident (touch wood) that they will drop points, just like Brum have done recently. No doubt if Boro or Blackpool come roaring back at the expense of Reading they will be likely league winners whilst we lose in the playoffs.... We will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I still think that the 2 automatic promotion places will ultimately be decided in the West Ham-Reading and Saints-Reading games. I've always maintained that the minimum for AP will be 86/87 points this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Charlie wayman Another bore How, say top of the league. 3 wins and 1 draw in the last 4 are we slipping into the playoffs Are you actually a saints supporter? Serious question? As every time we drop a point you say cortese is going to ditch Adkins and you are a knee jerk depressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Charlie wayman Another bore How, say top of the league. 3 wins and 1 draw in the last 4 are we slipping into the playoffs Are you actually a saints supporter? Serious question? As every time we drop a point you say cortese is going to ditch Adkins and you are a knee jerk depressive Go easy on him. He probably got all excited when the Gooners got it to 3-0 last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I still think that the 2 automatic promotion places will ultimately be decided in the West Ham-Reading and Saints-Reading games. I've always maintained that the minimum for AP will be 86/87 points this season. Meaning we need 6 wins and 2 draws. maybe a draw less if one of the wins is Reading. Gonna be tough. No margin for error. If we had beaten Bristol City at home and not conceeded against the blue tw*ts, we would have been needing about 5wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Charlie wayman Another bore How, say top of the league. 3 wins and 1 draw in the last 4 are we slipping into the playoffs Are you actually a saints supporter? Serious question? As every time we drop a point you say cortese is going to ditch Adkins and you are a knee jerk depressive West Ham have matched that record Reading have bettered it. Hence the worry in these parts currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 FWIW i work in Reading with a lot of Reading (and someone else) fans who say that they are sh*t, boring and we will finish above them. Apparantly they are just girinding out wins lumping it forward to two big lumps up front and playing 10 behind the ball once they score. They reckon their run will finish if anyone scores early against them and aren't confident of their run around easter time when they play us and West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 FWIW i work in Reading with a lot of Reading (and someone else) fans who say that they are sh*t, boring and we will finish above them. Apparantly they are just girinding out wins lumping it forward to two big lumps up front and playing 10 behind the ball once they score. They reckon their run will finish if anyone scores early against them and aren't confident of their run around easter time when they play us and West Ham. Nah, Reading are the best team in the land at the moment. An unstoppable juggernaut who will win every game until the end of the season which means we can't possibly drop any points from here on in. Forget about the fact that Reading were pretty bad Earlier in the season and have an avergage side on paper. we've only been top two all season so we should rightly be worried about them sailing past us. It's only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 FWIW i work in Reading with a lot of Reading (and someone else) fans who say that they are sh*t, boring and we will finish above them. Apparantly they are just girinding out wins lumping it forward to two big lumps up front and playing 10 behind the ball once they score. They reckon their run will finish if anyone scores early against them and aren't confident of their run around easter time when they play us and West Ham. Did not Millwall take the lead against them? Reading still won 2-1 so the theory breaks down a bit. Reading are just doing whatever is necessary to try to obtain automatic promotion which is score and then shut up shop. No doubt it doesn't please their supporters (or some of them) but they've had a couple of sob stories in the play-offs and are probably intent on avoiding them,by using whatever method it takes to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Did not Millwall take the lead against them? Reading still won 2-1 so the theory breaks down a bit. Reading are just doing whatever is necessary to try to obtain automatic promotion which is score and then shut up shop. No doubt it doesn't please their supporters (or some of them) but they've had a couple of sob stories in the play-offs and are probably intent on avoiding them,by using whatever method it takes to do that. I have no idea or great interest, just repeating what i was told this morning by some Reading (and someone else) fans who went last night. There is usually some internet forum expert to be pedantic about everything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 That's the general consensus I've heard about Reading from some of their fans. Really hope their run ends soon, thought that once they went 1-0 down against Millwall they would struggle to come back from that I must admit though. Turkish is spot on about their fans...despite living 15 miles down the road all of my life, most Reading fans I meet also 'support' one of Liverpool/Man Utd/Arsenal/Chelsea etc. Is pretty amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 I also have a good mate who does every Reading game home and away, he also says they are pretty awful. Not too sure what to make of that at the moment really, as awful appears to be enough at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 West Ham have matched that record Reading have bettered it. Hence the worry in these parts currently. Yes and thats unfortunate but we can't do anything about it (copyright Nigel Adkins). If we keep playing like we are the chances are one of those will not. 2 points dropped last night but there will be more of them by the end of the season, for us, WHU and (believe it or not) Reading. It will be tight but I'm pleased with how we're playing and we've already shown we are good at bouncing back from setbacks this season. Can't wait for saturday, my first game since Burnley. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 7 March, 2012 Share Posted 7 March, 2012 Take a look at their remaining fixtures : Championship Reading v Leicester Sat 10 Mar 15:00 Championship Doncaster v Reading Tue 13 Mar 19:45 Championship Barnsley v Reading Sat 17 Mar 15:00 Championship Peterborough v Reading Tue 20 Mar 19:45 Championship Reading v Blackpool Sat 24 Mar 15:00 Championship West Ham v Reading Sat 31 Mar 15:00 Championship Reading v Leeds United Fri 6 Apr 14:00 Championship Brighton v Reading Tue 10 Apr 19:45 Championship Southampton v Reading Fri 13 Apr 19:45 Championship Reading v Nottm Forest Tue 17 Apr 19:45 Championship Reading v Crystal Palace Sat 21 Apr 15:00 Championship Birmingham v Reading Sat 28 Apr 12:30 Ok the first 4 don't look too tricky, but if they finish above us with that lot to play in their last 8 games, they'll deserve it. They have to play 1st and 2nd, 6th and 7th away, as well as 5th, 10th, 11th and 12th at home. Plus 3 teams in the bottom half. Meanwhile Saints have to play 4th, 5th, 9th, and 12 away, 3rd at home, plus 6 teams in the bottom half. We certainly have an easier looking run in, along with West Ham though. No way they'll win three away games in a week after playing Leicester. We need to look after ourselves and the rest will take its course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 No way they'll win three away games in a week after playing Leicester. We need to look after ourselves and the rest will take its course. Lets hope that is right but they have won 8 in a row and that is certainly a great run! Westham seem to be the ones faltering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 10 March, 2012 Share Posted 10 March, 2012 Look at West Hams fixtures, and consider how much they struggle at home. They could be the ones to slip away ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 March, 2012 No way they'll win three away games in a week after playing Leicester. We need to look after ourselves and the rest will take its course. I could see them getting 3 narrow wins, but their next 5 games after that are Blackpool, West Ham, Leeds, Brighton and Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 March, 2012 This, and according to a couple of neutral fans i know that watch them they are scraping one goal victories playing crap football and winning unconvincingly. However, they are still winning. Sounds like Brighton last season - but then THEY already had a 10 point head start when they started doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 March, 2012 So you're not worried about Reading? I'm less worried about them having seen their run-in than I was having seen their results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 March, 2012 Share Posted 11 March, 2012 Honestly I'd think that West Ham have it all to do now,haven't looked at the odds but we're probably promotion favourites with West Ham and Reading at about the same odds. THese dropped home points are going to cost them,if they can't beat Reading at the end of the month they'll be looking at the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 March, 2012 Share Posted 11 March, 2012 Readings run in looks tough. but the way they are playing right now they will think they can beat anyone, a bit like we felt after about 10 games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 11 March, 2012 Share Posted 11 March, 2012 It's Hammers who need to be worried by Reading, they're more likely to drop out of the top two than we are, and their fans know it, have a look at their site they'v got the jitters and they don't think much of Fat Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Saint Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I would rather us go up with Reading than Fat Sam's WHU. But still worried about Reading pushing us out the top 2...we all keep saying 'surely they cant keep winning' - but they do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 March, 2012 Author Share Posted 12 March, 2012 I would rather us go up with Reading than Fat Sam's WHU. But still worried about Reading pushing us out the top 2...we all keep saying 'surely they cant keep winning' - but they do! They've only been playing bottom half teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 Readings run in looks tough. but the way they are playing right now they will think they can beat anyone, a bit like we felt after about 10 games this season. This is why I think that when they don't win a game their belief in being unbeatable will be damaged and a run of games where they won't win will happen. Which could mirror us at the start, we felt unbeatable then lost, then struggled to get the points as our belief had taken a hit, we had plenty of time to rectify it though. Reading won't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 March, 2012 Share Posted 12 March, 2012 (edited) Reading are set up to grind out results. They're a negative, if incredibly well-organised team. The only thing that stops them being predictable is that they have pace to hurt teams on the counter. We've never had luxury, instead relying on high-intensity football which is quite hard to sustain over time unless you have a big enough squad. Edited 12 March, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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