bjk Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Ipswich and Barnsley at home 6 points surely,but in true Saints tradition i bet we mess it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 To be fair I thought we would mess up the last two away games. Just got to keep the faith and enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 4 points this week IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 6 points! Don't doubt this team. Different spirit and class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Would expect to beat Barnsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 6 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 It wouldn't surprise me. I've thought it several times this season and been proved wrong, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Ipswich will be a tricky one, but we'll roll Barnsley over if we play our natural game. 6 points is what we'll be aiming for, but given Ipswich's recent form I would take a draw against them and a win vs Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Always difficult to say with Saints but this team seems to be a bit psychologically stronger than previous sides. Lets just hope we're winning at half time cos then we're pretty much certain to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 We don't even need six points, and it is highly likely we won't get them, just because that's what happens, even when you're top two. Four points this week would be 69 points from 36 games. That's 1.9 points a game, plenty for a top two finish, and would leave us needing about 16 points from ten games to pretty much cast iron guarantee promotion. 16 points from 10 games is basically scraping-into-the-play-offs form. All in all, I am saying we do have some wriggle room to "screw up". Let's not think we have to never drop a point again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 We don't even need six points, and it is highly likely we won't get them, just because that's what happens, even when you're top two. Four points this week would be 69 points from 36 games. That's 1.9 points a game, plenty for a top two finish, and would leave us needing about 16 points from ten games to pretty much cast iron guarantee promotion. 16 points from 10 games is basically scraping-into-the-play-offs form. All in all, I am saying we do have some wriggle room to "screw up". Let's not think we have to never drop a point again. agree however, you just know that should we say....draw against ipswich and hell, drop to 2nd...many will see that as the dream all over etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 0 points and out of the top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 If we want to go up in the autos, it simply has to be 2 wins. 4 points wouldn't be the end of the world, 3 or fewer and I'd worry about our chances of automatic promotion. That said I think it will be six - the players won't put on a performance like yesterday's in a hurry. Interestingly I was having a swift glance at the Reading forum, and though they marvel at their recent form, they're not sure they have the players to maintain it. Twill be an interesing few weeks for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 We don't even need six points, and it is highly likely we won't get them, just because that's what happens, even when you're top two. Four points this week would be 69 points from 36 games. That's 1.9 points a game, plenty for a top two finish, and would leave us needing about 16 points from ten games to pretty much cast iron guarantee promotion. 16 points from 10 games is basically scraping-into-the-play-offs form. All in all, I am saying we do have some wriggle room to "screw up". Let's not think we have to never drop a point again. If we didn't have two other sides riding our arse, I would absolutely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 I always think that. It's been the trademark of saints ever since I started supporting them. Plus Ipswich are second to Reading in the form league right now. That said, this is a very different Saints this season so there is a touch of optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey_saint Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Look, I looked at the fixture sheet when it first came out at the beginning of the season and thought "there isn't a single team there that I think we could easily beat" and look at us now, is there a team we think we couldn't do that to now? come on, keep the faith! Together as one! we're on the bus, on the boat and we can do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 If we didn't have two other sides riding our arse, I would absolutely agree with you. As opposed to all the other seasons in the history of the championship where all the teams not in the top two places don't bother trying to challenge them. Of course there's a chasing pack. There always is. Reading have won 6 in a row or something - do you really think they are going to win eight in a row, ten in a row? And in all fairness, if Reading do anything like that, they'll be champions and there's nothing any other club could do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Ipswich have 5 wins and one defeat in their last 6 games, so they could definitely be tricky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAhoy Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 As opposed to all the other seasons in the history of the championship where all the teams not in the top two places don't bother trying to challenge them. Of course there's a chasing pack. There always is. Reading have won 6 in a row or something - do you really think they are going to win eight in a row, ten in a row? And in all fairness, if Reading do anything like that, they'll be champions and there's nothing any other club could do about it. Well yes there is something another club could do something about it . That's us winning our games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAhoy Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 As opposed to all the other seasons in the history of the championship where all the teams not in the top two places don't bother trying to challenge them. Of course there's a chasing pack. There always is. Reading have won 6 in a row or something - do you really think they are going to win eight in a row, ten in a row? And in all fairness, if Reading do anything like that, they'll be champions and there's nothing any other club could do about it. Well no, another club could do something about it . That's us winning our games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 As opposed to all the other seasons in the history of the championship where all the teams not in the top two places don't bother trying to challenge them. Of course there's a chasing pack. There always is. Reading have won 6 in a row or something - do you really think they are going to win eight in a row, ten in a row? And in all fairness, if Reading do anything like that, they'll be champions and there's nothing any other club could do about it. In football mate, nothing would surprise me. All I know is that I personally cannot see where Reading and West Ham will faulter..... but that's how I felt about Huddersfield last year. I dearly hope my apprehension is missplaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAhoy Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 meh im special, ignore the kinda double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Have a feeling it's going to be a bit of a letdown. We'll stay unbeaten....but 2 draws and 4 points dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 meh im special, ignore the kinda double post. No problem mate, good way to raise the post count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Well no, another club could do something about it . That's us winning our games ....and this is where the pointless agonising comes in. Reading are not going to win every game from now until the end of the season. And neither are we. We can drop points in the next week and it will be fine. My point is if Reading do go on an amazing winning run of winning 10 games in a row or better then no, there will be nothing anyone can do about it because it will be a freak run of mega football which no one will match. Basically what I am saying is, it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 What about the way we finished in L1. I'm on the bus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 A f**k up will always be just around the corner with us and as such it will always be in the back of my mind. Mind you, every fan in the country says that. Even the Utd and Arsenal fans probably have a nagging voice in the back of their heads when they go to West Brom, Everton or Stoke. I don't THINK we will screw this week up. This isn't a team of bottlers, but off days can just pop up out of nowhere. Wham and Reading both have home bankers on Tuesday too, so let's hope one of them fecks it up and not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Basically what I am saying is, it won't happen. Oh god! The fates, the fates are being tempted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 hope we beat both, think we will, but certainly won't be writing off Barnsley. Davies up front is a handful and they are a better side than when we demolished them at their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 All the hand wringing over Reading reminds me a lot of last season when people were banging on about Peterborough (myself included) during their great run. Ultimately though they ran out of steam, and I think Reading will too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 6 points in the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 As opposed to all the other seasons in the history of the championship where all the teams not in the top two places don't bother trying to challenge them. Of course there's a chasing pack. There always is. Reading have won 6 in a row or something - do you really think they are going to win eight in a row, ten in a row? And in all fairness, if Reading do anything like that, they'll be champions and there's nothing any other club could do about it. A bit like huddersfield last season. We kept winning, they kept matching us game after game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 We don't even need six points, and it is highly likely we won't get them, just because that's what happens, even when you're top two. Four points this week would be 69 points from 36 games. That's 1.9 points a game, plenty for a top two finish, and would leave us needing about 16 points from ten games to pretty much cast iron guarantee promotion. 16 points from 10 games is basically scraping-into-the-play-offs form. All in all, I am saying we do have some wriggle room to "screw up". Let's not think we have to never drop a point again. Hopefully the team won't be thinking the same. Ipswich are no mugs, they are in very good form, but make no mistake 6 points this week is a must. If we don't get these then the good work of Saturday is all a waste of time. We desparately need to maintain the pressure on West Ham and Reading this week. We will have some room for manouevre later when they have tougher games, but it is all about confidence and maintaining the gap to Reading. Let them catch us and their tails will be up and we will find it impossible to regain the momentum. Home wins are vital, and Ipswich and Barnsley are 2 that we should get, even if its not pretty. Still having supported Saints for 45 years hstorically these are the games we throw away, so nothing will surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 In football mate, nothing would surprise me. All I know is that I personally cannot see where Reading and West Ham will faulter..... but that's how I felt about Huddersfield last year. I dearly hope my apprehension is missplaced. Given they still have to play each other at least one of them will fail to win all of their remaining games, and hopefully we can beat Reading at SMS. They both still have some tricky games, but expect both to win 8 or 9 of remaining games, and thats what we will have to do as well, just like at the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Hopefully the team won't be thinking the same. Ipswich are no mugs, they are in very good form, but make no mistake 6 points this week is a must. If we don't get these then the good work of Saturday is all a waste of time. We desparately need to maintain the pressure on West Ham and Reading this week. We will have some room for manouevre later when they have tougher games, but it is all about confidence and maintaining the gap to Reading. Let them catch us and their tails will be up and we will find it impossible to regain the momentum. Home wins are vital, and Ipswich and Barnsley are 2 that we should get, even if its not pretty. Still having supported Saints for 45 years hstorically these are the games we throw away, so nothing will surprise me. Sorry, can't agree. Four points from these two games will be fine. I think you're being a bit melodramatic. Three weeks ago I bet you were fretting about Birmingham who don't even merit a mentionhere. If Reading, come saturday, have gone on to win what would be eight games in a row, then, well, well done them. I think it unlikely. It's funny that you also assume that West Ham and Reading will only come unstuck in "tougher games" but worry about Saints dropping points in games they should win. I think it perfectly possible that WHU and Reading can not win winnable games as much as we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 ....and this is where the pointless agonising comes in. Reading are not going to win every game from now until the end of the season. And neither are we. We can drop points in the next week and it will be fine. My point is if Reading do go on an amazing winning run of winning 10 games in a row or better then no, there will be nothing anyone can do about it because it will be a freak run of mega football which no one will match. Basically what I am saying is, it won't happen. Funnily enough I did BBC Predictor a fortnight ago and we were 3rd with a game to go (though still within 3 points). Birmingham were ahead of us, and I checked the results I'd given them. It was W12 D1 L1. Since then they've D1 and L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2012 Share Posted 4 March, 2012 Sorry, can't agree. Four points from these two games will be fine. I think you're being a bit melodramatic. Three weeks ago I bet you were fretting about Birmingham who don't even merit a mentionhere. If Reading, come saturday, have gone on to win what would be eight games in a row, then, well, well done them. I think it unlikely. It's funny that you also assume that West Ham and Reading will only come unstuck in "tougher games" but worry about Saints dropping points in games they should win. I think it perfectly possible that WHU and Reading can not win winnable games as much as we can. To be fair Reading are playing what's left of Pompey midweek, so they only really need to beat Leicester at home on Saturday (which we didn't). I wonder if Matt Mills will get a recall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Michael Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 Ipswich and Barnsley at home 6 points surely,but in true Saints tradition i bet we mess it up. That's the spirit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Saint Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 Ipswich have 5 wins and one defeat in their last 6 games, so they could definitely be tricky! Or you could say they are due a defeat?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellbert Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 As opposed to all the other seasons in the history of the championship where all the teams not in the top two places don't bother trying to challenge them. Of course there's a chasing pack. There always is. Reading have won 6 in a row or something - do you really think they are going to win eight in a row, ten in a row? And in all fairness, if Reading do anything like that, they'll be champions and there's nothing any other club could do about it. Reading have to go to West Ham as well as SMS, they also have to visoit Brighton and Birmingham, and entertain Blackpool, and like us, they have a number of other potential banana skins to negotiate, Leeds at home for example. It will be tight but that will make it all the more satisfying when we go up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 Sorry, can't agree. Four points from these two games will be fine. I think you're being a bit melodramatic. Three weeks ago I bet you were fretting about Birmingham who don't even merit a mentionhere. If Reading, come saturday, have gone on to win what would be eight games in a row, then, well, well done them. I think it unlikely. It's funny that you also assume that West Ham and Reading will only come unstuck in "tougher games" but worry about Saints dropping points in games they should win. I think it perfectly possible that WHU and Reading can not win winnable games as much as we can. Readings form IS going to carry on for the next 5 games sadly. Look at them. However, they then have Blackpool, West Ham, Leeds, Brighton, US. In that order. Thats when they will finally drop some points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 If we didn't have two other sides riding our arse, I would absolutely agree with you. That's why this is such a fantastic competitive league, one that I would be sad to leave. That said, we are well capable of getting the 2 wins so that should be the expected target. 71 points with 10 games to go is a powerful position to be in. Reading have Pompey and Leicester at home, Pompey are fighting for their lives and Leicester are going all out for a playoff place so let's hope they play as well at Reading as they did at St Marys. West Ham have Watford and Doncaster at home. I can only see 2 wins TBH although they can be a bit dogy on home turf. Come on Saints, keep your heads and see this through - promotion is soooo close now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 With Reading right behind us, we need to go out and grind out every game No easy games left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 In football mate, nothing would surprise me. All I know is that I personally cannot see where Reading and West Ham will faulter..... but that's how I felt about Huddersfield last year. I dearly hope my apprehension is missplaced. Reading have to play Us, WH, Birmingham and Brighton away....can see that being 4 defeats for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 Everyone is assuming to much that Reading and West Ham will both take maximum points this week. Birmingham were the team on a roll just a couple of weeks ago, then only took one point form home games against Forest and Derby, and all of a sudden we seem to have taken them out of the automatic promotion equation. And now we're talking about Reading in the exact same way like they can't possibly be stopped by anyone. Of course they can just like us. Anything could happen this week but there's no need to be running scared of West Ham or Reading, I think we showed Saturday how much this means to us. 3 points this week would put a bit of pressure on but would it be a disaster? Absolutely not. I had us to draw at Watford and lose at Leeds and feel we're still well on course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 Everyone is assuming to much that Reading and West Ham will both take maximum points this week. Birmingham were the team on a roll just a couple of weeks ago, then only took one point form home games against Forest and Derby, and all of a sudden we seem to have taken them out of the automatic promotion equation. And now we're talking about Reading in the exact same way like they can't possibly be stopped by anyone. Of course they can just like us. Anything could happen this week but there's no need to be running scared of West Ham or Reading, I think we showed Saturday how much this means to us. 3 points this week would put a bit of pressure on but would it be a disaster? Absolutely not. I had us to draw at Watford and lose at Leeds and feel we're still well on course +1. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 Sorry, can't agree. Four points from these two games will be fine. I think you're being a bit melodramatic. Three weeks ago I bet you were fretting about Birmingham who don't even merit a mentionhere. If Reading, come saturday, have gone on to win what would be eight games in a row, then, well, well done them. I think it unlikely. It's funny that you also assume that West Ham and Reading will only come unstuck in "tougher games" but worry about Saints dropping points in games they should win. I think it perfectly possible that WHU and Reading can not win winnable games as much as we can. I suspect that all three top teams will pick up 6 points this week. But we have the hardest game tomorrow against Ipswich. But if either West Ham or Reading do slip up this week, then we cannot afford to have not taken advantage. Not being melodramatic, just realistic, I can easily see Reading getting to 10 wins on the trot, but probably not much further. It is about confidence and pshychology at the moment. Win the next 2 and stay clear and this will start to play on the minds of the Reading and West Ham players and staff. Dropping points this week while not seeming too critical actually is in the grander scheme, you are right that all teams slip up against opposition they should beat, but I just don't think they will yet. You could be right, fine if they do, I will feel better. At the moment I feel this week is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 It's just a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popester Posted 5 March, 2012 Share Posted 5 March, 2012 Whatever happens I bet Chopra scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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