icehagman Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Would rather appear we have a problem... Personally i chose to pay the fiver more as a thank you for the years of good service as opposed to the promise of anything else. And would probably have paid more given the option... Am finding it rather difficult to read the same old sh:t from people that have nothing but negativity in mind time and time again though...seems like any poster that dares have an objective and realistic view of our current plight gets shouted down by the goons and their relentless negativity... The same goes for me. I paid the amount just to support those good souls who provide us with this site.. It was certainly not for the ability to post more than three times a day. I would estimate my total number of posts since I payed the fiver is about ten to fifteen, and I have been a full menber since day one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 I have no problem with the fiver but a big problem with how it has made the forum worse. So now another admin has said they disagree with this strategy. It's clear there is a problem but the only way I can see them listening is if as many people as possible cancel their subscriptions. A few mods and admin disagree with the policy along with numerous posters. It is turning people off the forum not making it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Tbh, I think that although there has indeed been a reduction in the amount of posts overall, there has certainly been a reduction in the amount of utter twaddle posts too. And if that took a fiver to reduce the effect, then it was a fiver well spent. I know a lot of posters who had stopped coming to the site before the imposed £5 subscription, because they couldn't stand the amount of crap on these forums. Now a few of them are returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Tbh, I think that although there has indeed been a reduction in the amount of posts overall, there has certainly been a reduction in the amount of utter twaddle posts too. And if that took a fiver to reduce the effect, then it was a fiver well spent. I know a lot of posters who had stopped coming to the site before the imposed £5 subscription, because they couldn't stand the amount of crap on these forums. Now a few of them are returning. Is that worth a massive reduction in forum activity.? I think most people would say no. A forum with no one on it is going to have less idiotic posts but also less interesting and thought provoking threads and posts. Maybe some have returned but it is far outweighed by the good posters who have left or who post a lot less because of this (I know I am!). This forum has lost something but baj and others can just keep turning a blind eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 HOw many new members have registered and paid a fiver since it was introduced? or is that classified need to know info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Is that worth a massive reduction in forum activity.? I think most people would say no. A forum with no one on it is going to have less idiotic posts but also less interesting and thought provoking threads and posts. Maybe some have returned but it is far outweighed by the good posters who have left or who post a lot less because of this (I know I am!). This forum has lost something but baj and others can just keep turning a blind eye I entirely accept that these forums have lost something, but I would suggest that you give it time. There is always the idea that people will return just as they will return to St Marys, when Saints get their act together. I would imagine the popularity of this forum, and of Saints forums in general, go hand-in-hand with the popularity of the club itself. I know many people who are so p!ssed off with the club that they will have nothing to do with it, not even coming onto the forums, until things are sorted out. After all, you can post thread, after thread, after thread, and if you still see nothing being changed, even after there is a whole consensus of fan's opinions being clearly unaccounted for, then you tend to lose interest. Which I think a lot of people have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Tbh, I think that although there has indeed been a reduction in the amount of posts overall, there has certainly been a reduction in the amount of utter twaddle posts too. And if that took a fiver to reduce the effect, then it was a fiver well spent. I know a lot of posters who had stopped coming to the site before the imposed £5 subscription, because they couldn't stand the amount of crap on these forums. Now a few of them are returning. I'd say the percentage of twaddle posts to decent posts in TMS has risen dramatically to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 TMS rulez i fully blame I_N_S for all the twaddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 TMS rulez i fully blame I_N_S for all the twaddle Twaddle on ducky, you post your fair share of it too! xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 I'd say the percentage of twaddle posts to decent posts in TMS has risen dramatically to be honest. So I take it by your replies that you believe the five pound charge has ruined the forum a bit (please correct me if wrong.) So that's you and Dark Sotonic Mills who are both admins and both against the idea. Surely someone at the top should listen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 So I take it by your replies that you believe the five pound charge has ruined the forum a bit (please correct me if wrong.) So that's you and Dark Sotonic Mills who are both admins and both against the idea. Surely someone at the top should listen? I'd like to make clear that I also think this £5 malarkay has hindered the quality of the forum. I don't blame Baj/Stevegrant or anyone....I think it was a good idea in theory, which just hasn't worked out. If I were them, I would fet rid of the £5 fee at the 1 year anniversary of SaintsWeb (seeing as £5's are probably non-refundable so it wouldn't really be fair to get rid of it straight away). Just to make clear, that means I am the 3rd mod to disagree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 I too have stopped my subscription.. I would behappy to re sign up should this place liven up a bit.. I would go with stus idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabbageFace Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Its a bolus of gashes now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 It suxors. Make it a free for all forum again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 http://www.freeforum101.com/themuppetshow a free forum for funnage and playage, full of sl*gs too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 So I take it by your replies that you believe the five pound charge has ruined the forum a bit (please correct me if wrong.) So that's you and Dark Sotonic Mills who are both admins and both against the idea. Surely someone at the top should listen? I didn't say it was a bad idea, but then my opinion of what makes it good on here is my opinion alone. It has had the effect desired when the subscription idea was dreamt up, i.e. the server is yet to crash and the number of infractable posts is certainly down. It's hard to argue with the facts and everything else is subjective.... even my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr saint Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 http://www.freeforum101.com/themuppetshow a free forum for funnage and playage, full of sl*gs too So wait....in a thread in which the vast majority of posters are agreeing that TMS is nothing like it used to be, you're trying to recreate the magic of the forum by inviting us to as place, where as far as I can see, you, INS and PompeyLass are the only members? I just can't see that working myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 I didn't say it was a bad idea, but then my opinion of what makes it good on here is my opinion alone. It has had the effect desired when the subscription idea was dreamt up, i.e. the server is yet to crash and the number of infractable posts is certainly down. It's hard to argue with the facts and everything else is subjective.... even my opinion. To be fair, if everyone left and never came on here, there would NEVER be a server crash and NO infractable posts to moderate! Have you been copying from the Rupert Lowe book of management techniques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 To be fair, if everyone left and never came on here, there would NEVER be a server crash and NO infractable posts to moderate! Have you been copying from the Rupert Lowe book of management techniques You have merely stated that which I was alluding to. (Awaysaint1 is going to love that sentence!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 You have merely stated that which I was alluding to. (Awaysaint1 is going to love that sentence!) Offends me too. It should be: 'You have merely stated that to which I was alluding.' You'll sound much less pompous expressing yourself like that. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 To be fair, if everyone left and never came on here, there would NEVER be a server crash and NO infractable posts to moderate! Have you been copying from the Rupert Lowe book of management techniques I've looked on Amazon but can't seem to find this book...have you got the ISBN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 So wait....in a thread in which the vast majority of posters are agreeing that TMS is nothing like it used to be, you're trying to recreate the magic of the forum by inviting us to as place, where as far as I can see, you, INS and PompeyLass are the only members? I just can't see that working myself... Funnily enough, forums start with one creator and grow. This one was only set up the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Offends me too. It should be: 'You have merely stated that to which I was alluding.' You'll sound much less pompous expressing yourself like that. Trust me. Do you know, I edited it once to read that and then changed it back. It smacked of split infinitives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Would rather appear we have a problem... Personally i chose to pay the fiver more as a thank you for the years of good service as opposed to the promise of anything else. And would probably have paid more given the option... Am finding it rather difficult to read the same old sh:t from people that have nothing but negativity in mind time and time again though...seems like any poster that dares have an objective and realistic view of our current plight gets shouted down by the goons and their relentless negativity... Have to agree with this, a fiver was a lot less than the donations I made to the previous forums and it equates to less than 1p per day (0.73p per day). A fiver to me is less than two pints which I'm sure most can forgo over a course of a year, or a gallon of petrol which will cover about 1/8th of a return journey for a home game for me. I realise some people will not be in a position to pay so maybe increase the free posts slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 I've looked on Amazon but can't seem to find this book...have you got the ISBN? Keep looking, it's quite obscure. Do you know, I edited it once to read that and then changed it back. It smacked of split infinitives. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Keep looking, it's quite obscure. Found it... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prince-Rupert-Cavalier-Charles-Spencer/dp/0753824019/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1226519337&sr=1-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 I'd say the percentage of twaddle posts to decent posts in TMS has risen dramatically to be honest. Occasionally you have this streak in you that is determined to not understand, Ponty ol' chum. OK, I shall be clearer. Did I say TMS..? Did I..? If I do not refer to a specific forum, it might just mean that I am referring to the forums as a whole. In that context, I believe there has been an overall drop in twaddle posts. Besides, if I was going to single out TMS for any particular issue it would be that the posts on there are hardly worth counting for anything, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 It wasn't a pop at you matey. The persons in question know who I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 It wasn't a pop at you matey. The persons in question know who I'm talking about. :smt041 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Have to agree with this, a fiver was a lot less than the donations I made to the previous forums and it equates to less than 1p per day (0.73p per day). Not that it really makes any difference to the point you are making, but I feel I should point out that 500p / 365 days is 1.37 pence per day. You never know, the 0.64 ppd might make all the difference to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 It wasn't a pop at you matey. The persons in question know who I'm talking about. OK, point taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 OK, point taken. Don't let him talk to you like that StL. Ponty is trying to make a monkey out of you. Occasionally he is determined to not understand. Muggy little c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 Not that it really makes any difference to the point you are making, but I feel I should point out that 500p / 365 days is 1.37 pence per day. You never know, the 0.64 ppd might make all the difference to some people. My bad, I should learn to do the mathes the right way round :oops: I now understand why some won't pay this huge difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 The only way to rid us of those parasites on the board is through a reduced revenue at the turnstiles and seemingly this is what many have decided on. The downturn in posts on the various forums just reflects the general apathy in the club at the moment. It won't improve unless we vastly improve results consistently, there is a real possibilty of a takeover, or there is anything else of importance to discuss like a change of board through changed alliances or an EGM. I don't mind paying a fiver for the guys to keep the servers up and running, after all, how many times did TSF fall over during matches etc. This has been a very popular forum, but I agree that apathy is a big factor in the decline. The other problem is that the issues that were being debated before Lowe left last time are still being done to death now and many people just can't be arsed any more. I'm intrigued though as to why people think that Lowe's departure will unite the fans once again. It didn't work last time and I don't believe it will work this time either. The one thing that will unite the fans is success on the field, and sadly that seems so remote that people are turning away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 12 November, 2008 Share Posted 12 November, 2008 So wait....in a thread in which the vast majority of posters are agreeing that TMS is nothing like it used to be, you're trying to recreate the magic of the forum by inviting us to as place, where as far as I can see, you, INS and PompeyLass are the only members? I just can't see that working myself... Gotta start somewhere aint we Scrooge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 November, 2008 Share Posted 13 November, 2008 Apparently the powers that be are discussing the issue, so I hope everyone gets the desired result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipped~halo Posted 13 November, 2008 Share Posted 13 November, 2008 Good Morning all.................. I haven't been here in ages hope you are all well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 November, 2008 Share Posted 13 November, 2008 Don't let him talk to you like that StL. Ponty is trying to make a monkey out of you. Occasionally he is determined to not understand. Muggy little c*nt. lol... Yes, I think I know the lad Ponty well enough..! Morning, Slipped H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 13 November, 2008 Share Posted 13 November, 2008 Good Morning all.................. I haven't been here in ages hope you are all well Bugger off, we don't need stingey cheapskates like you who aren't willing to pay a meagre £5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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