Chez Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 I initially read it like that but then thought there is no way in a million years the club could be stupid enough to try and implement something like that... could they?we're customers now, not supporters. The most loyal customer is the one that spends the most, not the one that goes to support the side at games, so I wouldn't doubt it for one second. As someone that never really buys anything other than tickets at SMS I'm gonna miss out here. Such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 24 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2012 It was the getting busier bit I'm confused about..... Based on the assumption that demand for tickets will go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 It's already happening, hadn't you noticed ? Also, Umbro don't do 3 new kits a season for anyone any more, they only do two, so you're safe either way. I tend not to read any thread you have started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 I tend not to read any thread you have started. This is good for us both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 we're customers now, not supporters. The most loyal customer is the one that spends the most, not the one that goes to support the side at games, so I wouldn't doubt it for one second. As someone that never really buys anything other than tickets at SMS I'm gonna miss out here. Such is life. I think you're making huge assumptions there, let's just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 we're customers now, not supporters. The most loyal customer is the one that spends the most, not the one that goes to support the side at games, so I wouldn't doubt it for one second. As someone that never really buys anything other than tickets at SMS I'm gonna miss out here. Such is life. I have only bought one piece of Saints merchandise in about the last 8 years and that was a pair of shorts to lounge around in on holiday last summer. Looks like I'm going to have to embrace the scarfer lifestyle... Forget doing Rochdale, Hull, Hartlepool away mid week - just pop down the megastore on your lunch break and treat yourself to a keyring. I really hope they don't do something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Whatever happened to the working mans game that you used to be able to turn up on the day pay your cash and get in....now some spotty little **** with a season ticket and laptop gets priority over me who has followed saints around the country and Europe a couple of times,spent hundreds on merchandise for the kids and most of the 80's fighting rival fans to protect the reputation of SFC. What has this world come to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 I have only bought one piece of Saints merchandise in about the last 8 years and that was a pair of shorts to lounge around in on holiday last summer. Looks like I'm going to have to embrace the scarfer lifestyle... Forget doing Rochdale, Hull, Hartlepool away mid week - just pop down the megastore on your lunch break and treat yourself to a keyring. I really hope they don't do something like this. Are you expecting us to get relegated.......surely you mean Man city, Liverpool and Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 I think you're making huge assumptions there, let's just wait and see. No. I say let's all jump to conclusions before we know the full details. How else are we going to get threads going beyond 64 pages FFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 No. I say let's all jump to conclusions before we know the full details. How else are we going to get threads going beyond 64 pages FFS? True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 I have only bought one piece of Saints merchandise in about the last 8 years and that was a pair of shorts to lounge around in on holiday last summer. Looks like I'm going to have to embrace the scarfer lifestyle... Forget doing Rochdale, Hull, Hartlepool away mid week - just pop down the megastore on your lunch break and treat yourself to a keyring. I really hope they don't do something like this. As a regular consumer of Saints crap and kits, I hope they don't do it too, they'd only stick the prices up in the first place to offset the discounts anyway. On which note I see the new Umbro England shirt is £43 (compared to £42 last season) for a short-sleeved shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Based on the assumption that demand for tickets will go up. Why will they do that? We can't fill SMS up on a regular basis now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Are you expecting us to get relegated.......surely you mean Man city, Liverpool and Newcastle I was merely referring to mid week away days I've done in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 No. I say let's all jump to conclusions before we know the full details. How else are we going to get threads going beyond 64 pages FFS? It's much more fun ranting and raving about things without knowing all the facts first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 No. I say let's all jump to conclusions before we know the full details. How else are we going to get threads going beyond 64 pages FFS? See the Pompey Takeover Thread for details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 If there are no paper match tickets, how do you avoid hastle over people sitting in the wrong seats, especially if you are aseason ticket holder and someone decides they fancy sitting in your seat for the day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 FFS, what is going to happen to our local turnstyle operators? Redundancy after many years of great service? All told, good bit of news this, as long as it is implemented properly. Says in the release that "box office" staff can select you the best seat in the house, assuming in practice that we can choose our own on-line like most of these systems. Also, while it is definitely good news, there are plenty of clubs that already have similar systems in place, so lets not get too carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 If there are no paper match tickets, how do you avoid hastle over people sitting in the wrong seats, especially if you are aseason ticket holder and someone decides they fancy sitting in your seat for the day ? Good question that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 I was merely referring to mid week away days I've done in the past. Sadly what ever happens I don't think the loyalty points will be retrospective...but come on imagine getting loyalty points just for having a half time pint.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 If there are no paper match tickets, how do you avoid hastle over people sitting in the wrong seats, especially if you are aseason ticket holder and someone decides they fancy sitting in your seat for the day ? If you find someone sitting in your seat, open them up like a tin of beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 If there are no paper match tickets, how do you avoid hastle over people sitting in the wrong seats, especially if you are aseason ticket holder and someone decides they fancy sitting in your seat for the day ? Imagine you'll have to take a print out confirmation of your booking with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 If there are no paper match tickets, how do you avoid hastle over people sitting in the wrong seats, especially if you are aseason ticket holder and someone decides they fancy sitting in your seat for the day ? Special Micro chip in the cards anyone sits in your seat they're instantly vapourised...... TBH that is a good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 For anyone thats interested i'm going to be putting an order in for a load of card holders with Corteses image on the cover for the cool fan that wants to carry their card in the most stylish way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Special Micro chip in the cards anyone sits in your seat they're instantly vapourised...... TBH that is a good question. Every seat will be fitted with a barcode scanner, you scan your card and the seat electronically lowers itself down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 For anyone thats interested i'm going to be putting an order in for a load of card holders with Corteses image on the cover for the cool fan that wants to carry their card in the most stylish way. Do you do special requests? I would like "Steve De Ridder, he hates plastic fans" inscribed on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 (edited) One thing i'm looking forward to is the 2 month into the season TSW threads about the following how many points on their smartcard smart card issues and moans such as; * not working in the club shop * points inaccurately recorded * lost or stolen smartcards * How much better it was when we had paper tickets and knew what game we were on. Edited 24 February, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 (edited) Do you do special requests? I would like "Steve De Ridder, he hates plastic fans" inscribed on mine. The preorder for limited addtion "northam block 42, loyal supporters" special are going very well. The little string attached to tie round the wrist when waving at block 43ers was a well recieved extra. Edited 24 February, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 For anyone thats interested i'm going to be putting an order in for a load of card holders with Corteses image on the cover for the cool fan that wants to carry their card in the most stylish way. Can i have one! must be the picture from the Leeds programme though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Would the loyalty system reset every season, or just run continuously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Every seat will be fitted with a barcode scanner, you scan your card and the seat electronically lowers itself down. And warms itself up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Woohoo.. It might stop my wife washing my season ticket! Took me ages to dry it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Woohoo.. It might stop my wife washing my season ticket! Took me ages to dry it out Or alternatively buy a "Cortese whoo whoo" lanyard and card protector a bargain at only £12.99. Keep your card scratch free and dry and show your support from the club and chairman whilst looking cool at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Great if we all lived in Soton... What do you mean? Surely if you were a northern saint or whatever, you could compensate the fact you can't go to to many home games by going to the aways near you, building up a few points? Although i originally meant you should be given more for an away, sounds obvious, but its the sort of thing the club wouldn't do. I'd think about saying northern aways (if we go up) such as Bolton, Wigan, Newcastle etc, you should be given a bit more compared to an away like Fulham. Got a friend who follows Spurs and they do this i think. In answer to why, surely a 'loyalty points sysem' should reward loyalty.. Also i think the system needs to stop people who go to most aways, but without a ST, missing out over people who want to do a couple of London ones but have a ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Or alternatively buy a "Cortese whoo whoo" lanyard and card protector a bargain at only £12.99. Keep your card scratch free and dry and show your support from the club and chairman whilst looking cool at the same time. Do I get loyalty points for buying one of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 (edited) What do you mean? Surely if you were a northern saint or whatever, you could compensate the fact you can't go to to many home games by going to the aways near you, building up a few points? Although i originally meant you should be given more for an away, sounds obvious, but its the sort of thing the club wouldn't do. I'd think about saying northern aways (if we go up) such as Bolton, Wigan, Newcastle etc, you should be given a bit more compared to an away like Fulham. Got a friend who follows Spurs and they do this i think. In answer to why, surely a 'loyalty points sysem' should reward loyalty.. Also i think the system needs to stop people who go to most aways, but without a ST, missing out over people who want to do a couple of London ones but have a ST. Kind of depends on what the club consider loyalty I would have thought. ST holders put money into the club. If you only do away games you're just putting money into other clubs coffers. Same as they might not consider casuals promoting the clubs reputation at some northen sh it hole as being more loyal than scarfer Dave who spent £600 in the club shop this month................Just sayin' Edited 24 February, 2012 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 If there are no paper match tickets, how do you avoid hastle over people sitting in the wrong seats, especially if you are aseason ticket holder and someone decides they fancy sitting in your seat for the day ? Stewards issued with hand-held card readers perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Imagine you'll have to take a print out confirmation of your booking with you. This is what happens at West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 its been this way at Rangers for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 its been this way at Rangers for years! uh oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 One thing i'm looking forward to is the 2 month into the season TSW threads about the following how many points on their smartcard smart card issues and moans such as; * not working in the club shop * points inaccurately recorded * lost or stolen smartcards * How much better it was when we had paper tickets and knew what game we were on. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone on here sad enough to start threads on a football forum (on the internet) about problems they are having with their cards. Saints fans are pragmatic and rational people and would take such gripes up directly with the ticket office rather than rant about it on here. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Do I get loyalty points for buying one of those? Yes, which you can use towards priority for tickets for the massive Saints v Torquay Carling Cup 2nd round tie in 2012/13 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 This does sound promising but where does it leave the mates of season ticket holders? Up until now these guys have gotten priority for the big games, usually 7 days before the rest of us. All they had to do in the past was buy their season ticket holding friend a pint in the pub and tell the odd joke here and there and hey presto, they had their seat at Wembley/Fratton Park. They even had the option to sell their ticket for a nice profit to someone who really cared. If we are to introduce a loyalty system, where will it leave these guys? They will just have to stroll around in their Man Utd/Chelsea tops in May and watch the games from the comfort of the pub. It hardly seems fair to leave these guys high and dry. Perhaps NC should invite a few of them round for dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 This does sound promising but where does it leave the mates of season ticket holders? Up until now these guys have gotten priority for the big games, usually 7 days before the rest of us. All they had to do in the past was buy their season ticket holding friend a pint in the pub and tell the odd joke here and there and hey presto, they had their seat at Wembley/Fratton Park. They even had the option to sell their ticket for a nice profit to someone who really cared. If we are to introduce a loyalty system, where will it leave these guys? They will just have to stroll around in their Man Utd/Chelsea tops in May and watch the games from the comfort of the pub. It hardly seems fair to leave these guys high and dry. Perhaps NC should invite a few of them round for dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 (edited) Will we be doing this next? http://www.groupon.co.uk/ Scroll down to the bottom on the right hand side. Seem a tad desparate for top of the table Edited 24 February, 2012 by John Boy Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 I have only bought one piece of Saints merchandise in about the last 8 years and that was a pair of shorts to lounge around in on holiday last summer. Looks like I'm going to have to embrace the scarfer lifestyle... Forget doing Rochdale, Hull, Hartlepool away mid week - just pop down the megastore on your lunch break and treat yourself to a keyring. I really hope they don't do something like this. Fact is though something you buy at teh club ticket or otherwise = revenue; away tickets dont, so dont be surprized to still see highest priority for all games even away games going to ST holders as they make the biggest financial contribution to the.... and given we want the club to spend money on players etc, can you really argue with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Fact is though something you buy at teh club ticket or otherwise = revenue; away tickets dont' date=' so dont be surprized to still see highest priority for all games even away games going to ST holders as they make the biggest financial contribution to the.... and given we want the club to spend money on players etc, can you really argue with that?[/quote'] Of course you can argue with that. Look what most clubs and England fans do? They do it, to treat their fans/loyalist customers as fairly as possible, like any sensible organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Of course you can argue with that. Look what most clubs and England fans do? They do it, to treat their fans/loyalist customers as fairly as possible, like any sensible organisation. such a sweeping statement ok, lets have say, 75 examples of this.... cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Fact is though something you buy at teh club ticket or otherwise = revenue; away tickets dont' date=' so dont be surprized to still see highest priority for all games even away games going to ST holders as they make the biggest financial contribution to the.... and given we want the club to spend money on players etc, can you really argue with that?[/quote'] You've missed my point. I have no qualms about ST holders being given priority (I'm one myself, so obviously all for it), though loyalty should be rewarded to those who attend the most away games as well, not whoever buys the most merchandise in the Megastore. For instance: Chelsea/Brighton away (depending on what league); Season ticket holders with 3 aways ST holders with 2 aways ST holders with 1 away ST holder with no aways Members with 3 aways and so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 (edited) such a sweeping statement ok, lets have say, 75 examples of this.... cheers All the following operate loyalty schemes (Just off the top of my head); England Man Utd Arsenal Chelsea Leeds Liverpool Spurs Newcastle Everton West Ham I'm fully aware all the clubs listed above are much bigger than us and have much better away followings but as we've seen this season, demand is there from us for games from the Midlands down. Edited 24 February, 2012 by This Charming Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 You've missed my point. I have no qualms about ST holders being given priority (I'm one myself, so obviously all for it), though loyalty should be rewarded to those who attend the most away games as well, not whoever buys the most merchandise in the Megastore. For instance: Chelsea/Brighton away (depending on what league); Season ticket holders with 3 aways ST holders with 2 aways ST holders with 1 away ST holder with no aways Members with 3 aways and so on... You're forgetting you're not a real fan unless you wear the full kit to games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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