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England squad

Goalkeepers: Scott Carson (Bursaspor), Joe Hart (Manchester City), Robert Green (West Ham United)

 

Defenders: Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Micah Richards (Manchester City), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur)

 

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur), Ashley Young (Manchester United), Theo Walcott (Arsenal)

 

Forwards: Darren Bent (Aston Villa), Fraizer Campbell (Sunderland), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Danny Welbeck (Manchester United)

 

 

Looks incredibly weak.

Hardly any central defenders

Cleverley - played about 3 games this season

Downing - really!! Done nothing at Liverpool

Walcott - Wouldn't get in a schools Under 15 team at the moment.

Campbell - On the back of one good goal! FFS

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Didn't think it was that bad to be honest. Ten minute bad patch from first goal. Apart from that we had most of the good chances. Thought the defensive midfielders needed to sit more and offer greater protection to the back four. First goal wouldn't have happened if this was the case.

 

TBH Gerrard and for a lot of the match Young, were where things broke down creatively and they are two of the more senior players. I'm kinda of the opinion that we need to let the youngsters grow together and accept they'll make the odd mistake. I'd rather that than see all of the old players back in the squad.

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Do you rate Sturridge then? I'm yet to be convinced about him at all.

he is alright....not a top 4 prem player but has more about him that the others....

welbeck is terrible IMO....just a quick player man U are using whilst they can't afford a top striker.....as for jones...the way the press go on about him as some sort of franco barasi is embarrassing

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he is alright....not a top 4 prem player but has more about him that the others....

welbeck is terrible IMO....just a quick player man U are using whilst they can't afford a top striker.....as for jones...the way the press go on about him as some sort of franco barasi is embarrassing

 

I agree, More General Franco than Barasi. Maybe Franco Benali...

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I agree, More General Franco than Barasi. Maybe Franco Benali...

I just don't get it..

on the radio earlier, they were going into meltdown about parker being captain (for one whole game) and said we should be building for the future and give the arm band to jones..

 

ffs...why are we always building for the future...lets just live in the now and stop thrusting these players who don't play week in week out for their clubs into the england lime light

 

also, the hype about the decking armband is hilarious....may as well come with super human powers and be responsible for saving the world the way some go on

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I just don't get it..

on the radio earlier, they were going into meltdown about parker being captain (for one whole game) and said we should be building for the future and give the arm band to jones..

 

ffs...why are we always building for the future...lets just live in the now and stop thrusting these players who don't play week in week out for their clubs into the england lime light

 

also, the hype about the decking armband is hilarious....may as well come with super human powers and be responsible for saving the world the way some go on

 

Building for the future and playing younger prospects is a daft thing to do. If they play like that and lose, we'll tumble down the rankings, meaning we get tougher opposition in the future until eventually we're drawn in incredibly tough groups and can't qualify anyway.

 

We'll do well to get out of our group at 2012. Ukraine and France are formidable opposition, then there's Sweden who we just about managed to beat in a friendly not so long ago.

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the main argument for parker NOT being captain was (this was on talksport) that he MAY not be around for the 2014 world cup..

 

 

eerr, so what..?

And nor, in all likelihood, will any of the other likely candidates. Terry, Ferdinand and Gerrard will all probably be too old/unfit to be relied upon by then. You could argue they already are.

 

I don't see why the captaincy is so important anyway, no other country really gives a **** who wears an armband and gets to call heads or tails before kickoff.

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