Syria

[LGTL]

1-6 defeat and another war. Happy days.

[Batman]

[CB Fry]

That's the Labour party I support.

[Verbal]

That's the Labour party I support.

 

Quite so. It was a brilliant, impassioned speech not so much about the situation in Syria as about the Labour party's historic role in fighting fascism. He was right also to open his speech with a condemnation of Cameron's silly "terrorist sympathisers" remark. Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, et al are not terrorist sympathisers - they're terrorist appeasers. There's a big difference.

 

Stella Creasy also emerged with great credit yesterday, by facing down intimidation and threats aimed at her and her staff from Corbynist Stop the War "activists", and by saying that she was voting yes because of Benn's powerful arguments.

 

Creasy, by the way, has done more to help working class voters in the short time she's been in parliament (2010 + 2015 with a hugely increased majority) than Corbyn achieved in 30 years. Her campaign against payday lenders and their charges of up to 4000% has shamed the coalition and now Tory governments into introducing at least some regulation. Stop the War share with a Wonga employee as well as a putative rapist, now jailed, the "distinction" of threatening and abusing her. Such is Corbynist "kinder politics".

[benjii]

I thought Benn's speech was very slickly and professionally delivered but it was pretty empty and if that is now what constitutes Parliament's standout oratory then there must be quite a lack of intellect to be found therein.

 

Having said that, good oratory does not necessarily a good decision make. George Galloway, for example, is an excellent orator and a tremendous ****.

[buctootim]

I thought Benn's speech was very slickly and professionally delivered but it was pretty empty and if that is now what constitutes Parliament's standout oratory then there must be quite a lack of intellect to be found therein.

 

Having said that, good oratory does not necessarily a good decision make. George Galloway, for example, is an excellent orator and a tremendous ****.

 

Good post, thats exactly what I felt about it. The speech majored on justifying going to war with IS by citing Labour opposition to Franco and Hitler and praising a long and tedious list of previous speakers. Where was the compelling rationale and persuasive logic? Looked more like a sales pitch for a job to me.

[trousers]

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton

Alex Salmond tells LBC that Tony Benn would be "burling in his grave" over Hilary's speech.

 

Emily Benn ‏@Emily_Benn

@georgeeaton @AlexSalmond Mr Salmond, Your comments are both deeply offensive and simply untrue. I hope you reflect and retract them

[buctootim]

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton

Alex Salmond tells LBC that Tony Benn would be "burling in his grave" over Hilary's speech.

 

Emily Benn ‏@Emily_Benn

@georgeeaton @AlexSalmond Mr Salmond, Your comments are both deeply offensive and simply untrue. I hope you reflect and retract them

 

Thats real oratory.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony-benn-s-anti-war-speech-about-british-policy-in-the-middle-east-from-the-first-gulf-war-a6755571.html

Edited 3 December, 2015 by buctootim