Daren W Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 "Have you got any sympathy for your neighbours down the road?" "No..." Absolutely fecking hilarious... Great stuff David... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 I have great sympathy for those unfortunate enough that they where born wrong side of Hampshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Not as funny as Steve Claridge (super Skate) giving the full run down on why pompey are in trouble and pretty much confirming he comes to SMS most home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffy Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Excuse my ignorance but who is David Bull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 I didn't know who David Bull was either, but I recognise him from this description. The missus and I both lol'ed at his point blank answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 19 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Excuse my ignorance but who is David Bull? Club historian... Author of Dell Diamond etc... I was fully expecting David to offer sympathy to the sad blue few... I actually laughed out loud when he blankly said "no!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Club historian... Author of Dell Diamond etc... I was fully expecting David to offer sympathy to the sad blue few... I actually laughed out loud when he blankly said "no!" Just a pity instead of the other guys saying they knew what they were going through, someone didnt just say "what like they did for us you mean ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Club historian... Author of Dell Diamond etc... I was fully expecting David to offer sympathy to the sad blue few... I actually laughed out loud when he blankly said "no!" Was that the same one who said: "I don't think it is a blip" WTF was that supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Was that the same one who said: "I don't think it is a blip" WTF was that supposed to mean? I think it was! He was probably trying to make the point that our defeats and poor performances were our 'true' colours at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 (edited) pity on you guys you don't have a copy of In that Number. The definitive history of Saints 1946 - 2003. A enormous volume and real masterpiece for anyone who relishes the history of SFC. David Bull did most of the editing of the book, based on an enormous amount of info. from the authors Duncan Holley and Gary Chalk, and you can see him ..(together with Duncan) on a portion of the Saints Millenium video..from a few years back. Is it available on DVD now, I wonder...? I haven't met David personally, but have corresponded with him a bit, and his dry wit even comes over in his writing. " Pompey people" like Fred Dinage used his position as Pompey director and TV personality -( although I think he was totally lacking in that area) ..to abuse Saints day after day on local TV ..when we were in the sh*t a few years ago. So am I sorry for them now?......NO ! .. The best that can happen is that some other idiot invests in the club... and they survive... to get pounded even more at the bottom of the Championship next season..whilst WE are in the Premiership. Edited 19 February, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge End Ranger Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Me and my dad used to sit next to David at the Dell. His reaction to most things were much along the line you saw on TV last night. Great to chat to and full of information. Great bloke. Did make me laugh though.... 'NO' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 pity on you guys you don't have a copy of In that Number. The definitive history of Saints 1946 - 2003. A enormous volume and real masterpiece for anyone who relishes the history of SFC. David Bull did most of the editing of the book, based on an enormous amount of info. from the authors Duncan Holley and Gary Chalk, and you can see him ..(together with Duncan) on a portion of the Saints Millenium video..from a few years back. Is it available on DVD now, I wonder...? I haven't met David personally, but have corresponded with him a bit, and his dry wit even comes over in his writing. " Pompey people" like Fred Dinage used his position as Pompey director and TV personality -( although I think he was totally lacking in that area) ..to abuse Saints day after day on local TV ..when we were in the sh*t a few years ago. So am I sorry for them now?......NO ! .. The best that can happen is that some other idiot invests in the club... and they survive... to get pounded even more at the bottom of the Championship next season..whilst WE are in the Premiership. You disappoint me, David. You are usually one of the more reasonable and interesting posters but I think you need a little more humility and circumspection than you express about the future. I do have some sympathy for PFC despite the fact that I do get huge pleasure when I see FD's once smug viseage on telly these days and his struggle not to burst into tears when mentioning his beloved club. A football club is such an important part of a community's culture and history that it is sad to see so many of them becoming the playthings of people who have no connection whatsoever with that community. It was probably never just a question of sport and the current state of the game is a huge subject with so many aspects that I regret. We went through several years when we were, frankly, laughing stock and so very nearly fell into the hands of a Walter Mitty. A lot of innocent people - and the Treasury - lost a lot of money as a result of what happened to our club. It is, frankly, hypocritical for any Saints fan to refer to PFC as cheats. We have found ourselves in a very fortunate position due in no part whatsoever to the fans. Be thankful, keep your heads down and fear for the long-term future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 (edited) You disappoint me, David. You are usually one of the more reasonable and interesting posters but I think you need a little more humility and circumspection than you express about the future. I do have some sympathy for PFC despite the fact that I do get huge pleasure when I see FD's once smug viseage on telly these days and his struggle not to burst into tears when mentioning his beloved club. A football club is such an important part of a community's culture and history that it is sad to see so many of them becoming the playthings of people who have no connection whatsoever with that community. It was probably never just a question of sport and the current state of the game is a huge subject with so many aspects that I regret. We went through several years when we were, frankly, laughing stock and so very nearly fell into the hands of a Walter Mitty. A lot of innocent people - and the Treasury - lost a lot of money as a result of what happened to our club. It is, frankly, hypocritical for any Saints fan to refer to PFC as cheats. We have found ourselves in a very fortunate position due in no part whatsoever to the fans. Be thankful, keep your heads down and fear for the long-term future. Thanks for the positive input and comment on my post Victor, but I have to say that generally speaking a lot of my impressions of "other clubs " are based on the players they have (good or otherwise) ..and not always the results, the attitude of the manager in the media, and the behaviour of their fans. At present Pompey (IMO) don't rate very highly on any scale of those items. Southampton has been described (in good times and bad)often by former players - as a nice family club and a nice place to be, and neutrals I meet (in Sweden) often recall the era of MLT and the Svenssons with polite comments. There has (in my 50 years as a fan) always been a " friendly rivalry " between the clubs, sometimes sadly degrading itself into fan violence but I generally look at their results (after those of Eastleigh and Salisbury)...but I'm not overly bothered by them, or their results except when we play them. Several years back, when our fate hung in the balance ...I was unfortunate enough to be visiting So'ton at the time that our fortunes were at their worst and Marcus Liebherr was waiting in the wings to bale us out with a little of his fortune. The most degrading aspect of this was the sight of F. Dinage going on local TV (supposedly a neutral medium) and denegrating Saints' in their worst hour. At that point in time, any respect I may have had for PFC (or Dinage) went down the drain when he used his public position as TV person, and Pompey director - to abuse SFC. I cannot picture that even Rupert Lowe (and certainly not Nicola Cortese) would have gone public with such comments ! Sorry Victor, my halo has gone to the cleaners this week - along with those poor so*s who supplied PFC with services that they likely will never get paid for. BTW - the comment you put in the above about calling Pompey "cheats " wasn't in my original contribution. I never said that part. Mind you, I wasn't part of the Administration team that baled them out last time ..and still didn't find out where all of the £130 million went to...... Edited 19 February, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 In response to the previous two eloquent posts above, can I simply say this... Pompey are CHEATS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 In response to the previous two eloquent posts above, can I simply say this... Pompey are CHEATS. Seconded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 A lot of innocent people - and the Treasury - lost a lot of money as a result of what happened to our club. It is, frankly, hypocritical for any Saints fan to refer to PFC as cheats. QUOTE] Whilstr I agree with some of your sentiments, the above is not actually true - As I understand, it was only Barclays and Aviva that did not get paid in full (We did not owe on the HMRC or local suppliers) and considering the interest paid on the stadium, the actual amount was not far off teh original amount borrowed. We also, did everything possible to try and AVOID that situation, regardles of what folk thought of Lowe and Wilde's approach when they came back, in hindsight the loaning out of players, teh youngsters and low wage coaches was an attenmpt to avoid defaulting on any payment regardless of what it meant to league position. Thats why its difficult to feel sorry for them...because after 1 admin, a new owner pumped 10.8 mil back into the club and instead of this going to wards paying off the previous debts, it went on player contracts. Yes many clubs have owners who subsidise the playing staff - but they should surely ahve paid off the remianing creditors FIRST - had they done so, had they struggled on they would not not be back in admin and could take a more moral high grounded position in that they were putting right the mistakes of the past - sadly they chose teh route that left them exposed teh moment the money from the CSI (wherever that came from) dried up... they made their bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Thanks for the positive input and comment on my post Victor, but I have to say that generally speaking a lot of my impressions of "other clubs " are based on the players they have (good or otherwise) ..and not always the results, the attitude of the manager in the media, and the behaviour of their fans. At present Pompey (IMO) don't rate very highly on any scale of those items. Southampton has been described (in good times and bad)often by former players - as a nice family club and a nice place to be, and neurals I meet (in Sweden) often recall the era of MLT and the Svenssons with polite comments. There has (in my 50 years as a fan) always been a " friendly rivalry " between the clubs, sometimes sadly degrading itself into fan violence but I generally look at their results (after those of Eastleigh and Salisbury)...but I'm not overly bothered by them, or their results except when we play them. Several years back, when our fate hung in the balance ...I was unfortunate enough to be visiting So'ton at the time that our fortunes were at their worst and Marcus Liebherr was waiting in the wings to bale us out with a little of his fortune. The most degrading aspect of this was the sight of F. Dinage going on local TV (supposedly a neutral medium) and denegrating Saints' in their worst hour. At that point in time, any respect I may have had for PFC (or Dinage) went down the drain when he used his public position as TV person, and Pompey director - to abuse SFC. I cannot picture that even Rupert Lowe (and certainly not Nicola Cortese) would have gone public with such comments ! Sorry Victor, my halo has gone to the cleaners this week - along with those poor so*s who supplied PFC with services that they likely will never get paid for. BTW - the comment you put in the above about caling Pompey "cheats " wasn't in my original contribution. I never said that part. Mind you, I wasn't part of the Administration team that baled then out last time ..and still didn't find out where all of the £130 million went to...... What did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 I don't really get the Pompey are cheats thing. Surely if you believe that Pompey's overspending was cheating, it follows that we were also cheats, albeit to a lesser extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 I don't really get the Pompey are cheats thing. Surely if you believe that Pompey's overspending was cheating, it follows that we were also cheats, albeit to a lesser extent. Don't get it? Re-read Frank's Cousin's post - the clues are there. Saints = overspent, but when realisation dawned, we cut our cloth accordingly, to my now grudging respect for Rupert Lowe. Went through admin, and got lucky. Pompey = overspent, but when realisation dawned, carried on spending. Went through Admin, got lucky, and instead of cutting their cloth accordingly, KEPT ON SPENDING. They can moan and whinge ALL THEY LIKE about small squad, the FAPPT etc etc.. but these facts remain. Pompey (Lampitt and Cotterill) CHOSE 'quality over quantity' (which is why their 'oh small squad' routine makes me want to vomit); If the FAPPT wasn't so ******* weak they'd be liquidated already - but the majority are too thick to realise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 What did he say? TBH I didn't wait around to listen to all of his blah hah, but his ear-to ear grin when he began speaking and his condescending manner was enough thank you ! for me..it felt like being forced to listen to someone denegrate someone you love ....and have no re-course to reply! If he has to continue reporting on the fate of his " beloved club", as long as we did with ours ..perhaps he'll cultivate a little humility...and a public apology to SFC / Saints fans on his TV prog. wouldn't be out of place either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Where did they find the other 3 loons that saids they had some sympathy for the blue few ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Didn't think it was all that funny to be honest. Giving one word answers, especially to the 'blip' question smacks of trying to be awkward. What was it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Where did they find the other 3 loons that saids they had some sympathy for the blue few ?? Quite easy I would think - it's the Daily Echo generation (who don't live on computers), who rely on it to provide information - my Dad for instance. He relies on me to keep him up to date - because the media love 'plucky pompey'.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Have to say all the people they interviewed came across as halfwits, I don't know how they find these people, they must hang around outside the club looking for someone who looks like an idiot and then try and interview them. I don't think I have ever seen a saints fan interviewed outside the ground that didn't come across as a window licker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Have to say all the people they interviewed came across as halfwits, I don't know how they find these people, they must hang around outside the club looking for someone who looks like an idiot and then try and interview them. I don't think I have ever seen a saints fan interviewed outside the ground that didn't come across as a window licker I lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Have to say all the people they interviewed came across as halfwits, I don't know how they find these people, they must hang around outside the club looking for someone who looks like an idiot and then try and interview them. I don't think I have ever seen a saints fan interviewed outside the ground that didn't come across as a window licker And extremely overweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Have to say all the people they interviewed came across as halfwits, I don't know how they find these people, they must hang around outside the club looking for someone who looks like an idiot and then try and interview them. I don't think I have ever seen a saints fan interviewed outside the ground that didn't come across as a window licker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Have to say all the people they interviewed came across as halfwits, I don't know how they find these people, they must hang around outside the club looking for someone who looks like an idiot and then try and interview them. I don't think I have ever seen a saints fan interviewed outside the ground that didn't come across as a window licker Now, I've spilled my tea! The TV people must have avoided any member of this forum, especially those who have read or contributed to Duncan's "Takeover Thread" in the Lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 I thought the old boy was quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Have to say all the people they interviewed came across as halfwits, I don't know how they find these people, they must hang around outside the club looking for someone who looks like an idiot and then try and interview them. I don't think I have ever seen a saints fan interviewed outside the ground that didn't come across as a window licker Hehe. Wasn't going to say anything, but the missus did make a comment when the vox pops were on. "I've lived in Southampton. There are some alright looking blokes there. Why have they chosen these three?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 I don't really get the Pompey are cheats thing. Surely if you believe that Pompey's overspending was cheating, it follows that we were also cheats, albeit to a lesser extent. Don't you mean gross overspending. And if continuing to hire players on huge contracts when you have made no effort to pay the 20p in the £ that you owe is not cheating then tell me what is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 TBH I didn't wait around to listen to all of his blah hah, but his ear-to ear grin when he began speaking and his condescending manner was enough thank you ! for me..it felt like being forced to listen to someone denegrate someone you love ....and have no re-course to reply! If he has to continue reporting on the fate of his " beloved club", as long as we did with ours ..perhaps he'll cultivate a little humility...and a public apology to SFC / Saints fans on his TV prog. wouldn't be out of place either.... In other words you don't really know. I am not a big fan of his either but I don't believe he ever misused his position. In fact I was surprised how his 'alleged' sense of humour has recently been at Pompeys expense. Innocent until proved guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Straight to the point. Very well put. They cheated their way to the FA Cup, spending obscene amounts of money that they didn't have. I hope they go down, then wallow for many years. No sympathy whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 (edited) In other words you don't really know. I am not a big fan of his either but I don't believe he ever misused his position. In fact I was surprised how his 'alleged' sense of humour has recently been at Pompeys expense. Innocent until proved guilty. I do know,(though don't recall everything word for word)..but it made me angry and I didn't sit and listen to his diatribe for the length of his programme. I objected to his attitude about our (then) impending bankruptcy! Making such comments on local TV was a bit beyond the pale for my liking. Is he "joking " about Pompey now (?) ..Is he STILL a director, or has the " manifold regimes " at Fratton in recent years brushed him aside now?. Edited 20 February, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 I don't really get the Pompey are cheats thing. Surely if you believe that Pompey's overspending was cheating, it follows that we were also cheats, albeit to a lesser extent. If anything, our downfall came about because we didn't spend ENOUGH on players when we were riding (relatively) high. As a result, we ended up with Premier League facilities which we had to carry on financing in the Championship. Ironically, if we'd spent Pompey proportions of cash on players we'd probably not have crashed because we had the infrastructure to support it. So, our situation was effectively the reverse of Pompey's. They spent money on players that their infrastructure couldn't support whilst we didn't spend enough on players to match the investment in infrastructure. The former is 'cheating' the latter is 'incompetence' and/or 'over cautious' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 Apart from having a natural dislike of the blue few, what really grates at the moment is this "poor me" attitude they appear to have. What a load of claptrap that was on Saturday when they could "only" put 3 subs on the bench. They have a youth academy don't they? Would it hurt to take along 2 of them for the experience? No...they'd rather play the sympathy card. Well, after their 3rd admin in my memory they won't get any from me. I don't want to see them out of business though....I'd much rather see them prolong the agony for as long as it takes for them to pay every bill back, even if they have to pay ALL their youth team. After all...they'll still get "massive" crowds because of their "fantastic" supporters.....right???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 The 'old'un' gave the answer that the Mancunian moron of an 'interviewer', (I use the term loosely). deserved. Almost on a par with the prat on the touchline of yesterday's Stevenage game, mind that could apply to the ITV coverage commentary with Ian dreary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 The 'old'un' gave the answer that the Mancunian moron of an 'interviewer', (I use the term loosely). deserved. Almost on a par with the prat on the touchline of yesterday's Stevenage game, mind that could apply to the ITV coverage commentary with Ian dreary. He's from County Durham and not too bad at his job to be honest, but I agree touchline interviews during a game should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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