This Charming Man Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 ****ing hell. Mods, lock this please. Why? Who made you king? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 Christ some of you are depressing. Every club has fans like this! But to moan about fans in a group having a laugh and singing is pathetic. No, complaining about passers-by being scared sh1tless by a bunch of turds who don't care about anyone except themselves is fine, it's their behaviour, far beyond "having a laugh and singing", which is pathetic. I'm pretty sure the club isn't issuing warnings about people "having a laugh and singing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 No, complaining about passers-by being scared sh1tless by a bunch of turds who don't care about anyone except themselves is fine, it's their behaviour, far beyond "having a laugh and singing", which is pathetic. I'm pretty sure the club isn't issuing warnings about people "having a laugh and singing". I went to my first away game in 1990 and i can say that i have NEVER been scared ****less by a bunch of turds who dont care about anyone except themselves. Not ones supporting Saints anyway. Some of you lot need to get a grip. We aren't Millwall, like every club we've got a few loudmouths and a few that drink too much. However, tales of families and children being attacked by other Saints fans, people running for their lives and scenes like Braveheart every week are simply not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 Yeah ****ing hell why are people having fun at football games ffs, i mean can't they learn from yorkie and just drink coffee. Or if they really have to drink maybe they should have a nice quiet glass of merlot in a wine bar or restaurant. And we should all be wearing saints shirts and make sure we wait outside the home ends to shake the hands of the home fans and wish them well on the way out. Because all the best away supports are like that, i mean just think of the wonderful reputation Arsenal or Fulham have, if only we could be more like them. Getting a coin in the back of the head coz some tw*t can't wait to get out of a ground isn't having fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 No, complaining about passers-by being scared sh1tless by a bunch of turds who don't care about anyone except themselves is fine, it's their behaviour, far beyond "having a laugh and singing", which is pathetic. I'm pretty sure the club isn't issuing warnings about people "having a laugh and singing". Examples? Been going home and away for many a year, and while we do have a few loud idiots, never seen any example of "passers-by being scared sh1tless " by Saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 i think this is the sort of behaviour that Cortese is refering to and i agree, this is disgusting behaviour and it needs to be stamped out. Drunken yobs singing and chanting and gernally being anti social. It's shaming our club and embarassing our great name Mr Turkish, isn't that you dancing around like Boy George on 0:15sec with a grey top on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 Examples? Been going home and away for many a year, and while we do have a few loud idiots, never seen any example of "passers-by being scared sh1tless " by Saints fans. Didn't you read a post further up the thread? A few Saints fans (who didn't have the full replica kit on so not real fans) terrorised the whole of Waterloo with their singing. People were running for their lives, children abandoned by their parents just crying uncontrollably, the elderly were fainting, three people suffered heart-attacks due to the panic caused. It must've resembled a scene out of WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 Well of course the incident at Charlton a couple of years ago in the "supporters" club that used to welcome away fans went down a storm - didn't it? Oh forgotten about that one then? No one ever gets hurt? Seem to remember another unsavoury incident at Charlton at an overground station - must have been a revenge attack! It's all a bit of banter - cobblers...loutish behaviour if you ask me! It's an image thing - a group of twenty somethings shouting and generally being non-conformist in their behaviour can be scarey to women and children. OK so they (the women and children) shouldn't be anywhere near a football ground or railway station in case of some "football fans" being in the vacinity! Get real! It's all very well saying some of us should get a grip - this is what football fans are all about, but I would argue 95% of any crowd following Saints know where to draw the line. If someone oversteps the mark they get rebuffed in our cosy group - and sometimes people do have one too many or go too far. To be honest it's the sort of cowardly behaviour I expect - picking on the old thermosflask and tartan blanket brigade...and the non-singers. I love the quotes "We are hardly Millwall" - I believe in the police's eyes we are as bad a s Millwall and Leeds and get "top" rating when it comes to policing at any away game - something to be proud of? I think we are listed as Category C "risk" which is the worst you can get! Oh we now have a reputation that must be upheld - top going boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 The most offensive I've seen Saints fans was in Bethnal Green a few seasons ago when we were playing Orient away. A bunch of 50 year olds stood outside a pub spitting and abusing anyone who wasn't white. Even families with kids were getting grief off them, people just going about their daily business. Bizarrely there were about 6 Police vans and numerous coppers lining the pavements on the other side of the street due to the fact a planned march had been cancelled at the last minute and they'd all been drafted in on overtime and had nothing else to do. They knew what was going on but turned a blind eye, maybe because they thought steaming over to a pub rammed with football fans wouldn't be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 The most offensive I've seen Saints fans was in Bethnal Green a few seasons ago when we were playing Orient away. A bunch of 50 year olds stood outside a pub spitting and abusing anyone who wasn't white. Even families with kids were getting grief off them, people just going about their daily business. Bizarrely there were about 6 Police vans and numerous coppers lining the pavements on the other side of the street due to the fact a planned march had been cancelled at the last minute and they'd all been drafted in on overtime and had nothing else to do. They knew what was going on but turned a blind eye, maybe because they thought steaming over to a pub rammed with football fans wouldn't be a good idea. How do you know these were Saints fans and weren't people who would've been involved in the march? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 Well of course the incident at Charlton a couple of years ago in the "supporters" club that used to welcome away fans went down a storm - didn't it? Oh forgotten about that one then? No, but that was just a few like minded lads fighting each other. Happens every now and then at the football... at every club... worldwide. We're not unique in that way and certainly no worse than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkScarf Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 Well of course the incident at Charlton a couple of years ago in the "supporters" club that used to welcome away fans went down a storm - didn't it? Oh forgotten about that one then? No one ever gets hurt? Seem to remember another unsavoury incident at Charlton at an overground station - must have been a revenge attack! It's all a bit of banter - cobblers...loutish behaviour if you ask me! It's an image thing - a group of twenty somethings shouting and generally being non-conformist in their behaviour can be scarey to women and children. OK so they (the women and children) shouldn't be anywhere near a football ground or railway station in case of some "football fans" being in the vacinity! Get real! It's all very well saying some of us should get a grip - this is what football fans are all about, but I would argue 95% of any crowd following Saints know where to draw the line. If someone oversteps the mark they get rebuffed in our cosy group - and sometimes people do have one too many or go too far. To be honest it's the sort of cowardly behaviour I expect - picking on the old thermosflask and tartan blanket brigade...and the non-singers. I love the quotes "We are hardly Millwall" - I believe in the police's eyes we are as bad a s Millwall and Leeds and get "top" rating when it comes to policing at any away game - something to be proud of? I think we are listed as Category C "risk" which is the worst you can get! Oh we now have a reputation that must be upheld - top going boys! Yorkie - don't turn into a killjoy and get old before your time Also please don't turn into one of those Forum Politically Correct Police-men where no-one is allowed to express themselves, or have a laugh or fun. The Girls have Spoken P.S BARNEY IS INNOCENT OK !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 I went to my first away game in 1990 and i can say that i have NEVER been scared ****less by a bunch of turds who dont care about anyone except themselves. Not ones supporting Saints anyway. Some of you lot need to get a grip. We aren't Millwall, like every club we've got a few loudmouths and a few that drink too much. However, tales of families and children being attacked by other Saints fans, people running for their lives and scenes like Braveheart every week are simply not true. Yeah, YOU haven't, that doesn't mean the thousands of people who don't go to football and don't "get it" aren't concerned about their welfare when stuck in a train carriage with a bunch of p1ssed-up people singing yobbish-sounding sounds and generally not behaving like normal people do on the numerous occasions when they're not going to football. I was going to ask if you'd expect a loud of blokes waving cans and shouting songs to pitch up on the 7:30am to Waterloo with the commuters, but that probably happens in your world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 Examples? Been going home and away for many a year, and while we do have a few loud idiots, never seen any example of "passers-by being scared sh1tless " by Saints fans. Brighton train this season, some absolute bell-ends in my carriage drunk off their faces yelling songs about Saints, women and kids looking very scared and getting off the train to find other carriages before the thing had even left the station. You should have seen this lot when we went through Cosham and Fareham, Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkScarf Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 Man Up Cupcakes. All you have shown on this thread is a few Saints Fans partying or having a good time. There are no incidents that I am aware of extreme violence. The girls have voted and think Saints Home and away Fans are brilliant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoyed a bottle of wine and some nibbles at the Piano and Pitcher tonight at Ocean Village and really looking forward to Saturday. I am sure we will have good news on Barney in the next few weeks ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 23 February, 2012 Share Posted 23 February, 2012 How do you know these were Saints fans and weren't people who would've been involved in the march? Because they occasionaly broke from airing their racist views to sing a few Saints songs. I was stood outside the pub opposite them for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzie Saints Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Brighton train this season, some absolute bell-ends in my carriage drunk off their faces yelling songs about Saints, You should have seen this lot when we went through Cosham and Fareham, Jesus. Sounds just like the old days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Brighton train this season, some absolute bell-ends in my carriage drunk off their faces yelling songs about Saints, women and kids looking very scared and getting off the train to find other carriages before the thing had even left the station. You should have seen this lot when we went through Cosham and Fareham, Jesus. A perfect example as to why they should bring back football specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Brighton train this season, some absolute bell-ends in my carriage drunk off their faces yelling songs about Saints, women and kids looking very scared and getting off the train to find other carriages before the thing had even left the station. You should have seen this lot when we went through Cosham and Fareham, Jesus. Calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 (edited) got to be jester hats That would be classic. We should all wear jester hats to the Derby match at St Mary's. Was that a plan? If not, should be!! They are such a joke. I have no sympathy for the club anymore because they have simply not learnt and made no attempt to fix the wage structure and under-current of incompetency, still stupid enough to pay PL wages - well done to the execs and management, irrespective of owners. It's the small businesses I worry about being stitched thousands while the players lord it (they've STILL not paid Jimmy Case for his public speaking ages back - If I were Jimmy, I'd do it again, but add a massively patronising & belittling caveatt just to make my point! ;o) Skates took the p*ss, fielding loan players like O Hara helping them get results yet they couldn't pay them - illegal in FA rules I would think. When you look at Luton and the terrible treatment, fines and punishment they had, it really doesn't bode well, highlights the corridors of power in football must be wonky and with many short cuts & this exasperates othe clubs purely in how the Ports MOUTH have taken the p*ss, talked the talk but in fact done f**k all to rectify issues and they largely got away with much of it, worse still not learnt. Hope buying the FA Cup was worth it. They're ridden their luck to the brink and now deserve everything they get, I am sorry to say. Not bitter, just dismayed at the stupidity. Maybe not the fans' fault but there needs to be some semblance of responsibility, competency and diligence shared as a club, in good times and bad. Like Saints, 3 key traits which evaded our club management for 2 decades!! (responsibility, competency and diligence). Thank god for Markus or it could have been us, despite Rupert's best (worst) attempts. Sh*t finger as we refer to him. Everything Lowe touched, turned instantly into sh*t yet the deluded maniac believed himself some Messiah. Arrogance really is a blinding character trait!! Back to the OP, I admit some of our fans are shocking and premdominantly the wonderful youth element (although not exclusively) giving us yet another thorn to the name of Southampton (not that So'ton as a city has that great a rep, fairly mundane imho yet thinks the night life is on par with London *cough*) Sad state of a significant portion of our football fan base (in general) and shocking in comparison to gentlemanly rugby fans (but football a far more exciting game imho) but this isn't about Broken Britain before I go off on my usual tangent! LOL Not one to digress. OOPS!!! Edited 24 February, 2012 by Gordon Mockles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 A perfect example as to why they should bring back football specials. ...and drive them into the sea ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 ...and drive them into the sea ? No, drive the train at terrified groups of women and children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Calm down. Er, thanks, but I posted that hours ago, and I was calm then as well. Nice to know some people STILL think they have the right to intimidate the general public and generally act like d1cks just because they happen to support a football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 No, drive the train at terrified groups of women and children. Whilst being an apologist for all the drunken abusive mongs who thought it was funny, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 **** me we have some proper mongs in our support, they sound scared of shadows. Let's put it in context, i've seen drunk football fans on trains, drunk people on the way back from gigs, drunk bankers, drunk rugby fans.... the list goes on. Normally it's called being young and having a laugh. As long as they're not kicking off let them get on with it, otherwise you sound like a miserable old ****er who'd rather we sat on our hands, or maybe you've never had a laugh in your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 **** me we have some proper mongs in our support, they sound scared of shadows. Let's put it in context, i've seen drunk football fans on trains, drunk people on the way back from gigs, drunk bankers, drunk rugby fans.... the list goes on. Normally it's called being young and having a laugh. As long as they're not kicking off let them get on with it, otherwise you sound like a miserable old ****er who'd rather we sat on our hands, or maybe you've never had a laugh in your life? Exactly. I got a train from York to Leeds late one night (up there for a gig) and nearly everyone on the train was plastered. Just people out having a good time. They were singing and shouting and even a few people stood on a table dancing. I was fairly sober and I wasn't scared, nor did I notice any women and children screaming. I wouldn't expect dullards like The9 to understand about having a good time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Whilst being an apologist for all the drunken abusive mongs who thought it was funny, no doubt. No, I'd be leaning out the window singing 'OWTS' on the off chance it might make someone fear for their safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 (edited) Exactly. I got a train from York to Leeds late one night (up there for a gig) and nearly everyone on the train was plastered. Just people out having a good time. They were singing and shouting and even a few people stood on a table dancing. I was fairly sober and I wasn't scared, nor did I notice any women and children screaming. I wouldn't expect dullards like The9 to understand about having a good time though. Shut up you drunken thug, he knows how to have a good time, he had a promotion barbeque at the end of last season. Edited 24 February, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Shut up you drunked thug, he knows how to have a good time, he had a promotion barbeque at the end of last season. You're just jealous cos you didn't get an invite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkScarf Posted 24 February, 2012 Share Posted 24 February, 2012 Because they occasionaly broke from airing their racist views to sing a few Saints songs. I was stood outside the pub opposite them for ages. Message to the Kitty Cat - Saints girls know that we do not do racism at Southampton FC - they were probably millwall watford chelsea or liverpool... P.S. Message about Barney - he was great in League One - looks like another Lee is getting all the glory now. Once declared INNOCENT - I'm sure his play will get even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 27 February, 2012 Share Posted 27 February, 2012 I can confirm there were plenty of drunk people singing at Watford Station, on the train back from Watford and at Clapham. There were plenty of women and children around, none of them were crying or in distress. A Thai bloke even walked past and everyone started singing the Tadanari song at him, he had no idea what was going on but was laughing away... not crying. All in all, a very disappointing day. Not one innocent bystander was reduced to tears. Must try harder at Leeds next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 February, 2012 Share Posted 27 February, 2012 I can confirm there were plenty of drunk people singing at Watford Station, on the train back from Watford and at Clapham. There were plenty of women and children around, none of them were crying or in distress. A Thai bloke even walked past and everyone started singing the Tadanari song at him, he had no idea what was going on but was laughing away... not crying. All in all, a very disappointing day. Not one innocent bystander was reduced to tears. Must try harder at Leeds next week. How do you know he was Thai, did he show you his passport? Or are you just assuming he was a foreigner and likely to be an illegal immigrant. It's this sort of racism that needs to be stamped out in our fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 27 February, 2012 Share Posted 27 February, 2012 Good to see the Head Steward at Watford had the common sense to remove the netting at the back so the kids could move seats to see. Bloke behind Corky and our kids had his daughter with him as seemed genuinely surprised when no one sat down, including our boys. He spoke to a copper about people standing, he simply shrugged. Sense at last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 27 February, 2012 Share Posted 27 February, 2012 How do you know he was Thai, did he show you his passport? Or are you just assuming he was a foreigner and likely to be an illegal immigrant. It's this sort of racism that needs to be stamped out in our fan base. Being well travelled, educated and cultured I can pick these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 27 February, 2012 Share Posted 27 February, 2012 Being well travelled, educated and cultured I can pick these things. he can spot a ladyboy a mile off, you should know what he is like by now Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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