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Crazy Diamond

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I noticed this in the programme today. Page 54, 'Supporters Information'...

 

"Some supporters attending away fixtures are giving Southampton Football Club a tarnished reputation. Please behave appropriately at all away matches or you will receive a ban from St. Mary's Stadium and from purchasing away tickets"

 

No indication as to what it is, so I was wondering if anyone knew what the Club might be referring to. There's a statement about throwing objects above that quote, but I'm not sure the two are related.

 

Any ideas?

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Saw a little bit of abuse of stewards at the whu game and there was a tiny scuffle outside the ground, nothing particularly major though and if anything gives our fans a bit more of an edge which is no bad thing if you ask me. Much rather have ****ed up lads than people sitting on their hands or doing a day trip (and no i'm not condoning violence just think football is better when you're not behaving yourself)

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Saw a little bit of abuse of stewards at the whu game and there was a tiny scuffle outside the ground, nothing particularly major though and if anything gives our fans a bit more of an edge which is no bad thing if you ask me. Much rather have ****ed up lads than people sitting on their hands or doing a day trip (and no i'm not condoning violence just think football is better when you're not behaving yourself)

 

Bizarre.

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Does anyone pay attention to such announcements?

 

To be honest, were it not for the fact I was looking for something else in the programme, I wouldn't have noticed it. As silly as it sounds, I don't think they're even meant to be noticed, maybe too much of a fuss would be caused if the Club were seen to be criticising its own fans...

 

I just wondered really, I hadn't heard of any disturbances.

 

The same page for a second week running has also advised fans that cars parked in the area have been broken into. Would have thought that'd get more attention, but nope, there it is, tucked away on page 54.

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Jesus! Imagine Millwalls match day programme. Was speaking to a couple of my friends the other days who are season ticket holders at Brighton. They told me the millwall fans ram raided the away end refreshment area on valentines days. Assaulting staff, stealing goods and money out of the tills. On top of this fights with stewards and police. I'm surprised it hasn't had much media attention to be honest.

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To be very honest with you lot who travel away - we do have some right knobs in our midst at most away games. Yes I do go to some and usually find there are little groups of acned, pubescent teens/early twenty year olds who like giving it large. Sure it's great to pick on scarfers and mums and dads with kids - and then run away when the big boys turn up! Perhaps looking back 40-years perhaps I used to behave differently to at The Dell; as fewer people went to away games in those days and the risk of being "recognised" was minimal.

I could never afford to get out of my head or even tipsy - so drinking excessively was not an option. Anyway in those days you neded your wits about you so you didn't get a good kicking. I think it's about time the decent fans of SFC tackled this problem head on at our away games. There are plenty of "senior" fans who could have a quiet word, and not leave it to the stewards at the home club (or the police).

Sure they are usually the ones who spend most of the match concentrating their songs and jesturing on the locals closest to the away fans. It's called "banter" apparently but I go to watch football not the opposing fans!

I suppose it comes with being successful? We didn't attract some many numpties when we were absolutely carp away from home! Sure the same old faces go week in and week out in those days, and most are still present these days. However it's all the newbies that seem to be letting the side/club down.

We should all be in this together and enjoying the experience...I wait for the day they end up next to me somewhere!

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Saw a little bit of abuse of stewards at the whu game and there was a tiny scuffle outside the ground, nothing particularly major though and if anything gives our fans a bit more of an edge which is no bad thing if you ask me. Much rather have ****ed up lads than people sitting on their hands or doing a day trip (and no i'm not condoning violence just think football is better when you're not behaving yourself)

 

Agreed. Being sat down with all of the travel club clowns is a boring experience.

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To be very honest with you lot who travel away - we do have some right knobs in our midst at most away games. Yes I do go to some and usually find there are little groups of acned, pubescent teens/early twenty year olds who like giving it large. Sure it's great to pick on scarfers and mums and dads with kids - and then run away when the big boys turn up! Perhaps looking back 40-years perhaps I used to behave differently to at The Dell; as fewer people went to away games in those days and the risk of being "recognised" was minimal.

I could never afford to get out of my head or even tipsy - so drinking excessively was not an option. Anyway in those days you neded your wits about you so you didn't get a good kicking. I think it's about time the decent fans of SFC tackled this problem head on at our away games. There are plenty of "senior" fans who could have a quiet word, and not leave it to the stewards at the home club (or the police).

Sure they are usually the ones who spend most of the match concentrating their songs and jesturing on the locals closest to the away fans. It's called "banter" apparently but I go to watch football not the opposing fans!

I suppose it comes with being successful? We didn't attract some many numpties when we were absolutely carp away from home! Sure the same old faces go week in and week out in those days, and most are still present these days. However it's all the newbies that seem to be letting the side/club down.

We should all be in this together and enjoying the experience...I wait for the day they end up next to me somewhere!

Tell us more about all these times you've seen Saints fans 'pick on Mum and Dads with kids'? I've not missed a game for years and have never seen anything like this once.
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Tell us more about all these times you've seen Saints fans 'pick on Mum and Dads with kids'? I've not missed a game for years and have never seen anything like this once.

 

It's quite fashionable, especially for our older fans, to accuse us of this type of thing. Our away support is the best it's been for years and they don't seem to like it for some reason.

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It's quite fashionable, especially for our older fans, to accuse us of this type of thing. Our away support is the best it's been for years and they don't seem to like it for some reason.
Exactly. Our away support has been pretty decent last couple of years, very little to moan about in that regard.
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I do agree with Yorkie. I take my 9 year old boy and his mate and some of the vitriolic abuse of the home fans their players and the songs they sing are quite embarrassing. They rile these fans on trains etc and my boy gets very frightened. It puts me off taking him. On the other hand some of the songs and chants are brill and some are very funny. The lambert song and the "is there a fire drill?" etc are worth the journey on their own. Gettiing behind the team vocally and having humorous banter with the away fans is a must. Moronic personal abuse and foul and abusive language are unnecessary have no place IMO

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couldn't agree more with you tommy since when has foul and abusive language ever had a place in a football ground. I've been going since the 80's and have never heard it. Shocking to think we might be getting a reputation for it at away games. What is the world coming to.

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I will wait for the incoming here, but;

 

We travel well and have a decent core away base. Of course we have the idiots that go looking for it, but we also have pockets of lads that just go for the football, but when it goes past banter (Think about the billy sharp tweets) aren't afraid to defend themselves.

 

I don't have a problem with that.

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I do agree with Yorkie. I take my 9 year old boy and his mate and some of the vitriolic abuse of the home fans their players and the songs they sing are quite embarrassing. They rile these fans on trains etc and my boy gets very frightened. It puts me off taking him. On the other hand some of the songs and chants are brill and some are very funny. The lambert song and the "is there a fire drill?" etc are worth the journey on their own. Gettiing behind the team vocally and having humorous banter with the away fans is a must. Moronic personal abuse and foul and abusive language are unnecessary have no place IMO
The bit I've highlighted in bold makes it difficult to take anything else you say particularly seriously.
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To be very honest with you lot who travel away - we do have some right knobs in our midst at most away games. Yes I do go to some and usually find there are little groups of acned, pubescent teens/early twenty year olds who like giving it large. Sure it's great to pick on scarfers and mums and dads with kids - and then run away when the big boys turn up! Perhaps looking back 40-years perhaps I used to behave differently to at The Dell; as fewer people went to away games in those days and the risk of being "recognised" was minimal.

I could never afford to get out of my head or even tipsy - so drinking excessively was not an option. Anyway in those days you neded your wits about you so you didn't get a good kicking. I think it's about time the decent fans of SFC tackled this problem head on at our away games. There are plenty of "senior" fans who could have a quiet word, and not leave it to the stewards at the home club (or the police).

Sure they are usually the ones who spend most of the match concentrating their songs and jesturing on the locals closest to the away fans. It's called "banter" apparently but I go to watch football not the opposing fans!

I suppose it comes with being successful? We didn't attract some many numpties when we were absolutely carp away from home! Sure the same old faces go week in and week out in those days, and most are still present these days. However it's all the newbies that seem to be letting the side/club down.

We should all be in this together and enjoying the experience...I wait for the day they end up next to me somewhere!

 

What a load of sh*te. I'd much rather have a fanbase with the odd bit of trouble, then have to put up with a contingent of miserable travel club zombies. Got plenty as it is thanks.

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I'm not a huge fan of 'nawty boys' at away games going out and stirring things up, but I think our away support could be a lot more vociferous than it is. The Millwall cup game was a good example, there were only pockets of 10-20 fans singing dotted around, there wasn't a whole section like at home games where everyone was singing. I appreciate some people go to games to watch, but it's embarrassing at times when we can't really get a song started. The numbers are fine, it's just the noise that needs to be increased.

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I'm not a huge fan of 'nawty boys' at away games going out and stirring things up, but I think our away support could be a lot more vociferous than it is. The Millwall cup game was a good example, there were only pockets of 10-20 fans singing dotted around, there wasn't a whole section like at home games where everyone was singing. I appreciate some people go to games to watch, but it's embarrassing at times when we can't really get a song started. The numbers are fine, it's just the noise that needs to be increased.

 

Even more so when its against your bitter rivals and people are gorping like we're playing f*cking Barnet.

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There is something in it then after all?

Anti-social behaviour is all around us - but just because "it's football" shouldn't make it acceptable - should it?

I like a beer before the game, I swear during the game, and I join in with the singing of the songs when called for - but the "Pompey fan" song & "Cortese woah" are just two emabarassing examples that don't get uttered!

Football fans are from a wide cross section of society including the prawn sandwich brigade - but just because they don't chose to sing or clap or stand up for the game doesn't make them any less a fan of the club. We all support the team in different ways - and it galls me to see a gobby spotty youth high on something start on the tartan blankets for sitting down and not singing. After all I will be joining them soon - the flask and blanket fans!

If the behaviour goes too far the club will only sell awayday tickets to fans who travel with the travel club - a la bubble to Portsmouth. Is that what you want? There is no way I will travel to SMS to go to a game less tan 25-miles from me at Hull. I just wont go - or I will go and sit with the home fans. How is that getting behind your team?

This is a gentle warning to all fans who want to go to watch Saints games away from SMS under their own steam...it could be a possibility and the way to make sure this element does not associate itself with Southampton FC.

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There is something in it then after all?

Anti-social behaviour is all around us - but just because "it's football" shouldn't make it acceptable - should it?

I like a beer before the game, I swear during the game, and I join in with the singing of the songs when called for - but the "Pompey fan" song & "Cortese woah" are just two emabarassing examples that don't get uttered!

Football fans are from a wide cross section of society including the prawn sandwich brigade - but just because they don't chose to sing or clap or stand up for the game doesn't make them any less a fan of the club. We all support the team in different ways - and it galls me to see a gobby spotty youth high on something start on the tartan blankets for sitting down and not singing. After all I will be joining them soon - the flask and blanket fans!

If the behaviour goes too far the club will only sell awayday tickets to fans who travel with the travel club - a la bubble to Portsmouth. Is that what you want? There is no way I will travel to SMS to go to a game less tan 25-miles from me at Hull. I just wont go - or I will go and sit with the home fans. How is that getting behind your team?

This is a gentle warning to all fans who want to go to watch Saints games away from SMS under their own steam...it could be a possibility and the way to make sure this element does not associate itself with Southampton FC.

You don't half come out with some absolute drivel.
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We have some utter tvvats among our away following, many of whom I am embarrassed to be associated with. This happens on a fairly regular basis, and on pretty much every train ride to a match I've been on some bellend goes OTT, either being overly aggressive in a public place when there are loads of the general public trying to mind their own business, or generally just acting like mouthy yobs far away from any football-related environment in which it might be tolerated.

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There is something in it then after all?

Anti-social behaviour is all around us - but just because "it's football" shouldn't make it acceptable - should it?

I like a beer before the game, I swear during the game, and I join in with the singing of the songs when called for - but the "Pompey fan" song & "Cortese woah" are just two emabarassing examples that don't get uttered!

Football fans are from a wide cross section of society including the prawn sandwich brigade - but just because they don't chose to sing or clap or stand up for the game doesn't make them any less a fan of the club. We all support the team in different ways - and it galls me to see a gobby spotty youth high on something start on the tartan blankets for sitting down and not singing. After all I will be joining them soon - the flask and blanket fans!

If the behaviour goes too far the club will only sell awayday tickets to fans who travel with the travel club - a la bubble to Portsmouth. Is that what you want? There is no way I will travel to SMS to go to a game less tan 25-miles from me at Hull. I just wont go - or I will go and sit with the home fans. How is that getting behind your team?

This is a gentle warning to all fans who want to go to watch Saints games away from SMS under their own steam...it could be a possibility and the way to make sure this element does not associate itself with Southampton FC.

 

Johnstone's Paint Trophy final, I was sat behind someone who was a few years older than me, behind me was a couple who were probably pensioners. The guy in front wouldn't sit down, so I had to stand to see what was going on.

 

I was fine with standing, but the couple behind me couldn't see, so of course I sat down. I asked the guy in front if he could do the same as people couldn't see, he turned, looked at me, sneered, and began chanting so he couldn't hear me. The couple then decided to shout to him, asking if he could sit down, he still refused.

 

Eventually the couple started saying they couldn't see, could he please sit down, he was blocking their view and ruining it for them and others. He turns around and says "It's a ****ing cup final and you're sitting down? Why don't you ****ing support your team and sing some ****ing songs?". The reply from behind me was a bit forceful, for once, as their patience had run out, but still innocent as the bloke asked "Just sit down please, we can't see" and disgustingly, the reply from the gobby ****e in front of me was "Yeah I'll put my ****ing nose up your missus, shut up".

 

THAT kind of thing is unacceptable.

 

I don't care how old you are or what you think is just being a fan and having fun at away games, talking like that is disgusting. Being a fan away from home doesn't mean you've got free licence to act like a moron. It's not a case of 'it's not our turf, we do what we want'.

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I will wait for the incoming here, but;

 

We travel well and have a decent core away base. Of course we have the idiots that go looking for it, but we also have pockets of lads that just go for the football, but when it goes past banter (Think about the billy sharp tweets) aren't afraid to defend themselves.

 

I don't have a problem with that.

 

Nope me neither, but people should respect and look out for their own as well

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