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The most predictable event in British journalism has finally been announced.

 

Rupert Murdoch is to wow Britons with the reading age of a five year old with a new organ, the Sun on Sunday. The paper fills the 'void' left by the News of the World, which was axed after it was discovered that they were very naughty boys.

 

We do not buy The Sun in Liverpool, so I will not be buying it. What about you? Are you looking forward to seeing a pert pair o' page 3 knockers while you watch Nicky Campbell trying to separate God-botherers from atheists on The Big Questions?

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Or Screws of the World.

 

That's the one the Eye used to use, isn't it? Love it.

 

Anyways, I remember them doing a TV campaign a few years ago with a bouncy theme tune and an utter moron flailing about on the screen. Whole thing seemed aimed at utter idiots. I couldn't in good conscience buy a rag that advertised itself like that.

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The most predictable event in British journalism has finally been announced.

 

Rupert Murdoch is to wow Britons with the reading age of a five year old with a new organ, the Sun on Sunday. The paper fills the 'void' left by the News of the World, which was axed after it was discovered that they were very naughty boys.

 

We do not buy The Sun in Liverpool, so I will not be buying it. What about you? Are you looking forward to seeing a pert pair o' page 3 knockers while you watch Nicky Campbell trying to separate God-botherers from atheists on The Big Questions?

 

did I not predict this when the News of the Screws was shut down?

PM me if you want winners for the 3.15 at Uttoxeter or next year's lottery numbers.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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did I not predict this when the News of the Screws was shut down?

PM me if you want winners for the 3.15 at Uttoxeter or next year's lottery numbers.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

You probably did, but I'm not sure that your accuracy in prognostication here is necessarily applicable to the relative merits of the Uttoxeter nags :)

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You probably did, but I'm not sure that your accuracy in prognostication here is necessarily applicable to the relative merits of the Uttoxeter nags :)

 

I'll have you know that I attended a horse race once,some strange horsey woman must have dragged me there I suppose.

I had but one wager,mainly because it was a particularly scruffy looking horse who my companion probably said was only good for dog meat and I won about £5 for my 50p stake.That would give me a 100% record on nag related betting,more than you can say for the old hacks in the Sporting Life.

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We do not buy The Sun in Liverpool, so I will not be buying it. What about you? Are you looking forward to seeing a pert pair o' page 3 knockers while you watch Nicky Campbell trying to separate God-botherers from atheists on The Big Questions?

 

are you a scouser..? if so, why not fuk off and support liverpool or everton....?

if not, why do you care about the sun and not buying it in liverpool....

 

or are you along for the ride on the 'we are all victims' ride up there..?

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are you a scouser..? if so, why not fuk off and support liverpool or everton....?

if not, why do you care about the sun and not buying it in liverpool....

 

No, I'm not a scouser, but as you might imagine, I know plenty.

 

I never bought the Sun before I moved to Liverpool.

 

As for me supporting Everton and/or Liverpool, not going to happen. Southampton is my home-town, Southampton FC are my footy team and that doesn't go away just because you do. I think Nick Hornby said that supporting a football team is more permanent than marraige. Most fans agree with this. Bit weird that you even consider it possible.

 

or are you along for the ride on the 'we are all victims' ride up there..?

 

Nope, just showing solidarity with my neighbours and don't really want to be associated with the stigma of buying it. In this case, the families of the '96 were the victims, so much so that the Sun eventually issued a full apology years later.

 

You seem to be believing everything you see on the telly, confusing the very small amount of things you are shown with the actual real world. Yes, I can accept that it seemed that there was massive public outpouring of grief over the Ken Bigley incident, but that doesn't really square with my experience of being here. Some people were upset, so that's where they pointed the cameras. In reality, life went on as normal - I didn't hear a single person talking about it, let alone crying about it.

 

So enjoy your television and copy of the Sun mate, but just bear in mind that it represents the tiniest fraction of what is really going on, and even then, it's normally just the bad stuff that gets reported. Because if you didn't keep that in mind, you might just become the moron the paper is aimed at.

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It will sell 3m copies easily and be more profitable than any other UK paper. Great timing from Murdoch - staff moral at real low, now has reinvigerated work foce. News Corp shares have boomed this year dispite the Leftie's campaign against them. Murdoch bought back shares at reord lows and is now even richer and more powerful. The guy is clearly more intelligent than pretty much everyone else on the planet when it comes to guaging public opinion and making money - touché!

 

Meanwhile the Guardian, Independent, Express, Star, Mirror et al will continue to leak readers whilst the current bun and the Mail hoover them up.

 

I worked for the Sun/ NI for 9 years and believe me, they sell plenty of papers on Merseyside! Obviously lose a small amount (recent projections roughly 25k copies per day) as "protest" by scousers, but that's 0.01% of their 2.9m daily sales.

 

Anyway, seeing as we are all Saints fans this can only be good news right? No paper out there touches the News of the World/ Sun for football match reports? Some joker on here tried to claim the Sun didn't cover Saints anyway before Cortese when up there and kissed the feet of Mike Dunn (Sun Sports Editor) desperate to get us back in NI's good books. I went back through the previous 12 weeks of Score pullout on Mondays and found 9 full pages and 3 1/2 pages. Not bad for a league 1 side! Happy to do it again for any clownthat thinks any national paper out there can match the Sun for Saints coverage!

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Same ownership, same editorial direction, same ethics, many of the same journalists but still "a clean break with the past".

 

Definately not. The Sun & NOTW were massively competitive, Colin Myler and Dom Mohan actively got their journo's to fight for the best stories. Nothing was shared. NOTW journo's are gone and won't be back. That is a fact. Huge cost saving excersise ultimately. Only thing they had in common was the fact they outsold the competition in their respective areas (Dailys/ Sundays). Us Sun workers heard rumours ages ago regarding going to 7 day shifts etc, NOTW closing just sped this up.

 

Sorry, I know this goes against what people think goes on at NI but hey, we all like to believe stereotypes don't we?

 

Apologies for spelling errors and lack of maths accumen on previous post (can't edit' not a member on here) should have been 1% not 0.01%. Happy to admit the likes of me need sub editors/ spell check!

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Definately not. The Sun & NOTW were massively competitive, Colin Myler and Dom Mohan actively got their journo's to fight for the best stories. Nothing was shared. NOTW journo's are gone and won't be back. That is a fact. Huge cost saving excersise ultimately. Only thing they had in common was the fact they outsold the competition in their respective areas (Dailys/ Sundays). Us Sun workers heard rumours ages ago regarding going to 7 day shifts etc, NOTW closing just sped this up.

 

Sorry, I know this goes against what people think goes on at NI but hey, we all like to believe stereotypes don't we?

 

Apologies for spelling errors and lack of maths accumen on previous post (can't edit' not a member on here) should have been 1% not 0.01%. Happy to admit the likes of me need sub editors/ spell check!

 

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It will sell 3m copies easily and be more profitable than any other UK paper. Great timing from Murdoch - staff moral at real low, now has reinvigerated work foce. News Corp shares have boomed this year dispite the Leftie's campaign against them. Murdoch bought back shares at reord lows and is now even richer and more powerful. The guy is clearly more intelligent than pretty much everyone else on the planet when it comes to guaging public opinion and making money - touché! Meanwhile the Guardian, Independent, Express, Star, Mirror et al will continue to leak readers whilst the current bun and the Mail hoover them up. I worked for the Sun/ NI for 9 years and believe me, they sell plenty of papers on Merseyside! Obviously lose a small amount (recent projections roughly 25k copies per day) as "protest" by scousers, but that's 0.01% of their 2.9m daily sales. Anyway, seeing as we are all Saints fans this can only be good news right? No paper out there touches the News of the World/ Sun for football match reports? Some joker on here tried to claim the Sun didn't cover Saints anyway before Cortese when up there and kissed the feet of Mike Dunn (Sun Sports Editor) desperate to get us back in NI's good books. I went back through the previous 12 weeks of Score pullout on Mondays and found 9 full pages and 3 1/2 pages. Not bad for a league 1 side! Happy to do it again for any clownthat thinks any national paper out there can match the Sun for Saints coverage!
I have now been inspired to go out and buy the Guardian every day (Supplemented with Private Eye, ofc). Not really bothered about the Saints content - I feel like I've got the best access to the club I've ever had. No need to put money into Murdoch's pocket and tacitly validate the rest of the crap he prints.
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I couldn't give a toss whether he's printing a new paper or not. I will definitely not be lining the pockets of Rupert or his weasel son.

 

Wasn't that impressive during Leveson, I have to say. Wonder how the interview went:-

 

RM : "Are you my son?"

JM : "Yes"

RM : "You're hired!"

 

Perhaps JackanorySFC can add more texture to this.

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It will sell 3m copies easily and be more profitable than any other UK paper. Great timing from Murdoch - staff moral at real low, now has reinvigerated work foce. News Corp shares have boomed this year dispite the Leftie's campaign against them. Murdoch bought back shares at reord lows and is now even richer and more powerful. The guy is clearly more intelligent than pretty much everyone else on the planet when it comes to guaging public opinion and making money - touché!

 

Meanwhile the Guardian, Independent, Express, Star, Mirror et al will continue to leak readers whilst the current bun and the Mail hoover them up.

 

I worked for the Sun/ NI for 9 years and believe me, they sell plenty of papers on Merseyside! Obviously lose a small amount (recent projections roughly 25k copies per day) as "protest" by scousers, but that's 0.01% of their 2.9m daily sales.

 

Anyway, seeing as we are all Saints fans this can only be good news right? No paper out there touches the News of the World/ Sun for football match reports? Some joker on here tried to claim the Sun didn't cover Saints anyway before Cortese when up there and kissed the feet of Mike Dunn (Sun Sports Editor) desperate to get us back in NI's good books. I went back through the previous 12 weeks of Score pullout on Mondays and found 9 full pages and 3 1/2 pages. Not bad for a league 1 side! Happy to do it again for any clownthat thinks any national paper out there can match the Sun for Saints coverage!

 

I'll give this an F, and not just for the 'creative' spelling.

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Tbh while I don't read The Sun and have no interest in most of the celebrity sh!te they fill the pages with, people buy it for a reason. I'd much rather people read The Sun than nothing - at least it's relatively informative.

 

I'll pick up the 'I' a few times a week, but tbh I get most of my news from the BBC website etc.

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If you really judge someone on the paper that they read you should be taking a long hard look at yourselves before judging others, pompous tw*ts

 

I don't think it is unreasonable to have an opinion on a person based on what they prefer to read as an adult in a democratic society with publications across the political spectrum.

 

We have a competitive press, who essentially put their cards on the table. If the Sun advertises itself as being the paper for "people with insatiable appetite for celebrity tit-tat and general bolox", why is it wrong to assume that the people who buy it might be looking for that?

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No, I'm not a scouser, but as you might imagine, I know plenty.

 

I never bought the Sun before I moved to Liverpool.

 

As for me supporting Everton and/or Liverpool, not going to happen. Southampton is my home-town, Southampton FC are my footy team and that doesn't go away just because you do. I think Nick Hornby said that supporting a football team is more permanent than marraige. Most fans agree with this. Bit weird that you even consider it possible.

 

 

 

Nope, just showing solidarity with my neighbours and don't really want to be associated with the stigma of buying it. In this case, the families of the '96 were the victims, so much so that the Sun eventually issued a full apology years later.

 

You seem to be believing everything you see on the telly, confusing the very small amount of things you are shown with the actual real world. Yes, I can accept that it seemed that there was massive public outpouring of grief over the Ken Bigley incident, but that doesn't really square with my experience of being here. Some people were upset, so that's where they pointed the cameras. In reality, life went on as normal - I didn't hear a single person talking about it, let alone crying about it.

 

So enjoy your television and copy of the Sun mate, but just bear in mind that it represents the tiniest fraction of what is really going on, and even then, it's normally just the bad stuff that gets reported. Because if you didn't keep that in mind, you might just become the moron the paper is aimed at.

 

Harsh but I share your sentiments.....but not about Delldays...he fought for our country

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So, did anyone "read" this bull **** yesterday? Was it a revelation to drag yourselves through the insipid banality of a celebrity-obsessed w@nk fest on a Sunday too?

 

I read it. It seemed a bit strange to read the Sun on a day when you don't normally see it. Generally the Sun has always been more tongue in cheek and the NOTW far more malicious and spiteful and that did not seem to have changed now it is published on a Sunday. I like the sensational sports coverage but generally this paper can be read in twenty minutes and you do not get bogged down like you do in the Sunday Times or the Observer.

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I read it. It seemed a bit strange to read the Sun on a day when you don't normally see it. Generally the Sun has always been more tongue in cheek and the NOTW far more malicious and spiteful and that did not seem to have changed now it is published on a Sunday. I like the sensational sports coverage but generally this paper can be read in twenty minutes and you do not get bogged down like you do in the Sunday Times or the Observer.

 

Probably got a great deal to do with the fact that a five-year old can read it.

 

Curse the Times and Observer's massive bias toward polysyllabic words!

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It depends what you want your newspaper to deliver. Interest in who is screwing who and celebrity tittle tattle is not exclusive to the stupid.

 

Yes, Sergei. The intellectual set is all about knowing who Katie Price is boinking this week :D

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I would be very surprised if I could not have a good discussion on Katie Price and how she has been so succesful with any business leader or prominent politician. What do you think?

 

I think the discussion would go like this:-

 

Sergei "How did Katie Price get so successful?"

Business leader or prominent politician "Large teats, numerous trips to the plastic surgeon and countless disastrous relationships played out in public".

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