Turkish Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 No surprise really as recent attendances have been disapointment, only 21k against Leicester with only 20,000 Saints fans bothering to turn up. Only 24,000 including just shy of 2k Cardiff fans for a 2nd v 3rd clash was very disapointing. There wasnt even the excuse that this one was on the telly. We can go back top tomorrow and with a decent Derby following likely anything less than 25k is a major disapointment. Especially given our catchment area, potential, investment from the chairman etc. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2613966,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 Have been quite surprised with our numbers this year. Would have thought we would have been hitting 23k-25k regularly, despite what position we were in, but expected majority of attendances to be around 28k if we were fighting for promotion and sell outs on the 'big' games. (WHU, Cardiff, Mboro etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 There is a f**king financial crisis going on. Going to the game doesnt leave you much change out of 50 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2012 There is a f**king financial crisis going on. Going to the game doesnt leave you much change out of 50 quid. There was when we sold out aganst West Ham, Brighton, Crystal Palace as well and we have averaged over 25k for most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 er, so what..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2012 So where are they now Jamie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 So where are they now Jamie? at home..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 There is a f**king financial crisis going on. Going to the game doesnt leave you much change out of 50 quid. Alpines right. This is the most exciting season we've had in ages and attendances are dropping; it can only be because nobody has any spare cash. I've missed games this year simply because I couldnt afford to go to them, since christmas the workload has plummeted to a trickle. I was very busy til then. Would be interesting to see how other clubs attendances are holding up in comparison. I'll be there tomorrow though, fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 If only we where like pompey's amazing surpporters..... I'll admit to missing a couple of the recent games...mostly becuase evening games aren't always easy to get to with work and family commitments. Just leave matches at 3.00 on a saturday and I'll be there stick them on in the evening and it's 50/50 for me. I'll be there tommorrow hoping to see another performance like last weeks against Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzzza Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 should get 28k+ , weathers better, performances better, 3pm sat k/o, no f-kin sky sports , it all helps. though some cheaper seats might help some get there more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 I'd suspect that all the money that our fans are spending on going to away games is hitting our home attendances a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 It's not cheap! Mouths to feed, bills to pay etc. all this whilst having pay cuts or freezes, yet utility bills rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 in a way we need a prolonged spell of poor attentances to drive home the message that tickets are too expensive, i won't be going next year if we go up and they hit us with £40 prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 Our average home attendance at the moment is 25,546. Only Derby and West Ham have a better average. We also average over 10,000 more than the Skates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzzza Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 seats in family stand £23 and kids under 11 free, so not too bad. i know someone who pays that to watch bournemouth, lol ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 What a complete twist this thread is! The club are just advertising that tickets are available, quite ironic Urksh*t is having a dig when he was one of those having a dig about the club not advertising season tickets. What an idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 seats in family stand £23 and kids under 11 free, so not too bad. i know someone who pays that to watch bournemouth, lol ! that's not bad - but not everyone want to sit there and the tickets elsewhere are more expensive - besides if you've been made redundant or are under the threat of redundancy and you've got household bills and a mortgage to pay its hard to justify spending £23 on a ticket whatever its for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 It's not cheap! Mouths to feed, bills to pay etc. all this whilst having pay cuts or freezes, yet utility bills rising. So you're saying that Cortese has got our ticketing and prices all wrong? Get behind the club and NC FFS! Don't know what is wrong with some of our fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2012 I keep hearing about our great support and we've got so much potential and that we will need a bigger stadium in the premier league, yet we cant even get 75% of our current capacity when we are having our best season in years with, what some on here have described as our greatest ever team. It doesn't all stack up somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 What a complete twist this thread is! The club are just advertising that tickets are available, quite ironic Urksh*t is having a dig when he was one of those having a dig about the club not advertising season tickets. What an idiot! I don't think this is directly about the post on the OS, it's more a thread about our attendance in general at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2012 What a complete twist this thread is! The club are just advertising that tickets are available, quite ironic Urksh*t is having a dig when he was one of those having a dig about the club not advertising season tickets. What an idiot! LMFAO!!! How long did it take you to think that one up? And for your information i was one who stuck up for the club saying why people were desperate to part with their money months before they could use their ticket, so get your facts right you moron. I am also now applauding the club for encouraging our stay away fans to attend what is a massive game for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 serious question - how much higher would the attendances be if the club had sold actual half season tickets at Christmas? (and not the final 10 does not count as there was no incentive to pay that when no discount or season ticket priviledges) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 perhaps if they had made season tickets a bit more attractively priced, not screwed over the 60-65 years olds with a 73% price rise and not continually ****ed people off with various parking fees, tickets taxes, higher walk up prices, making people travel to collect bus tickets, not putting tickets on sale the day after a home games etc. etc. then there might be the odd extra bum or two on seats? I doubt all these things add up to 1000s but when its a bit cold, the side hasn't been turning sides over left right and centre for a while and maybe cash is a little tighter than normal you can bet you bottom dollar it doesn't encourage them. Having said all that, in a standard league game, Derby are just not all that attractive opposition. The floating supporters that go to 4 or 5 games are just going to wait for better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2012 perhaps if they had made season tickets a bit more attractively priced, not screwed over the 60-65 years olds with a 73% price rise and not continually ****ed people off with various parking fees, tickets taxes, higher walk up prices, making people travel to collect bus tickets, not putting tickets on sale the day after a home games etc. etc. then there might be the odd extra bum or two on seats? I doubt all these things add up to 1000s but when its a bit cold, the side hasn't been turning sides over left right and centre for a while and maybe cash is a little tighter than normal you can bet you bottom dollar it doesn't encourage them. Having said all that, in a standard league game, Derby are just not all that attractive opposition. The floating supporters that go to 4 or 5 games are just going to wait for better. It's not a standard league game. We could go toip tomorrow, playing the best football in people life times, just had a great transfer window where we've signed on of the divisons best strikers. Yet still people cant be arsed to come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 It's not a standard league game. We could go toip tomorrow, playing the best football in people life times, just had a great transfer window where we've signed on of the divisons best strikers. Yet still people cant be arsed to come along. No, but in 3 years time when we have a 40,000 capacity stadium playing those giants Swansea City in the Premier league 36,000 + will turn up paying £40 a ticket........ oh maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 No surprise really as recent attendances have been disapointment, only 21k against Leicester with only 20,000 Saints fans bothering to turn up. Only 24,000 including just shy of 2k Cardiff fans for a 2nd v 3rd clash was very disapointing. There wasnt even the excuse that this one was on the telly. We can go back top tomorrow and with a decent Derby following likely anything less than 25k is a major disapointment. Especially given our catchment area, potential, investment from the chairman etc. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2613966,00.html Good call that man. My bank details are below. If you'd be so kind to transfer £100 into there this afternoon I'll book a couple of tickets this evening. Sort Code: 77-56-21 Account Number: 158023369 Bank: Lloyds TSB Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 It's not a standard league game. We could go top tomorrow, playing the best football in people life times, just had a great transfer window where we've signed one of the divisons best strikers. Yet still people cant be arsed to come along.I'll be there, not for any of those reasons, but I have a season ticket, just think that begging for support is a bit cheaky seeing as the club treats some of its fans with contempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 There was when we sold out aganst West Ham, Brighton, Crystal Palace as well and we have averaged over 25k for most of the season. That proves jack sh*t except that our fans, just those of other clubs, are probably forced to be more selective about the games they go to, in order to make their scarce money go further. If you had the money to go to one game, would you go to Bristol City or hold on to it for West Ham ? Its a no bloody brainer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 Money is tight and people won't pay it, simple as that. If I didn't have a season ticket I doubt very much if I'd bother travelling down tomorrow, couldn't justify the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 If we were playing Man Utd it'd be sold out. Same as most football fans unfortunately. I reckon the club would have budgeted for much bigger crowds than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbrooktonian Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 Cheaper prrices will get more bums on seats But I get fed up with the negativity on here s ometimes Who ever goes tomorrrow just sing your hearts ou for the team. These are happy times COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 I reckon the club would have budgeted for much bigger crowds than this.I'd of thought our average attendance would be right on estimate, but having been top or there abouts they might have hoped for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 I prefer away games as I can get the them much easier. I have been to 3 home games this season Leeds, brighton and Blackpool. I have family in Southampton, so go to a match when I am down. Tomorrow I am picking my daughters up from my sisters, so going to go to the game while I am down. Away games I have been to plenty up until the little one was born at the turn of the year. I was wondering if we could learn anything from Derby, and how they get such large numbers through the gates? Looking at other clubs they could maybe learn a lot from Derby as well. Reading and Boro look like it is a reserve match when they are on the tv. Terrible. We do not have anything to worry about chaps. 24k will be there tomorrow to see us to the top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints triumph Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 I would wager that there will be a minimum of 24,352 there for the derby game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 I think we do alright but still think the club should do more to get bums on seats with some ticket deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 perhaps if they had made season tickets a bit more attractively priced, not screwed over the 60-65 years olds with a 73% price rise and not continually ****ed people off with various parking fees, tickets taxes, higher walk up prices, making people travel to collect bus tickets, not putting tickets on sale the day after a home games etc. etc. then there might be the odd extra bum or two on seats? I doubt all these things add up to 1000s but when its a bit cold, the side hasn't been turning sides over left right and centre for a while and maybe cash is a little tighter than normal you can bet you bottom dollar it doesn't encourage them. Having said all that, in a standard league game, Derby are just not all that attractive opposition. The floating supporters that go to 4 or 5 games are just going to wait for better. This was a dreadful decision from SFC! I have no problem with the club changing the T&C's for NEW buyers of ST's but to increase the prices for existing holders was a real poor show!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 I play hampshire league, i rather play then watch i only go to games when im not playing football myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 This was a dreadful decision from SFC! I have no problem with the club changing the T&C's for NEW buyers of ST's but to increase the prices for existing holders was a real poor show!!! It will be raised to 70 as the retirement age goes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Saint Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 It's money that stops me. I travel from Sussex and I doubt I get much change if any from a £100 for a trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 Its not about money (in general, of course in individual cases it may well be), as previously pointed out, there has been a recession for some time now. Its about Saints playing **** and not getting results and about it being cold. You cant count the CP game, it was Boxing Day, yet when we were playing WHU and Brighton we were flying. We might still have been second but everyone knows we have been crap from Blackpool to the 1st half against Cardiff, couple that with some cold days and nights that stop the 'turn up if we are winning' brigade (which is probably around 5000) and you get these disappointing attendances. I reckon if we win today the gates will start getting back to 30k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 I would tend to agree with Chez above regarding the complacency in terms of marketing last summer, as an awful lot of people were genuinely ****ed off. The current financial climate is without precedent and the majority of businesses have had to make concessions - football is culturally different but the bottom line still applies in the end. At present Saints have the third biggest average gate in the Championship, narrowly behind Derby and West Ham, with the former running all kinds of incentives. Nationally, we have the fourteenth biggest average gate - so, disappointing but not terminal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 (edited) Football attendances are suffering across the board, partly due to the £ crisis but also the game here is in a popularity recession. It has been very fashionable for 20 years, driven by the whole Prem-Sky thing, after it had reached a nadir of attendance figures and fashionability in the late 1980s. Now it is on the downturn of the cycle again, I can't see boom times for a decade or more. People are fed up with overpaid but poor quality players and so-so teams and faceless, soulless, corporate clubs, screwing them for every penny. The Prem has collapsed in quality this last 2 years and is failing in Europe, while the national team - England - is an utter joke. A few more Rangers disasters are long overdue.... Edited 18 February, 2012 by adrian lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 Football attendances are suffering across the board, partly due to the £ crisis but also the game here is in a popularity recession. It has been very fashionable for 20 years, driven by the whole Prem-Sky thing, after it had reached a nadir of attendance figures and fashionability in the late 1980s. Now it is on the downturn of the cycle again, I can t see boom times for a decade or more. but aren't football attendances up across the whole country...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 Its not about money (in general, of course in individual cases it may well be), as previously pointed out, there has been a recession for some time now. Its about Saints playing **** and not getting results and about it being cold. You cant count the CP game, it was Boxing Day, yet when we were playing WHU and Brighton we were flying. We might still have been second but everyone knows we have been crap from Blackpool to the 1st half against Cardiff, couple that with some cold days and nights that stop the 'turn up if we are winning' brigade (which is probably around 5000) and you get these disappointing attendances. I reckon if we win today the gates will start getting back to 30k. It only really hit hard at Christmas. Almost everybody I know whos self employed started suffering when the new year arrived. Up to christmas I was working flat out, seven days a week, the problem was making time to get to games. Now its lack of money, not time. Ive also lost count of the number of friends who have lost their jobs since then. I understand the point about the cold weather and poor form, but I'm convinced the economy is the major reason for the drop in attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 but aren't football attendances up across the whole country...? Prem showed some resilience last year after 3 years of decline, but the other leagues are down 3.5% I also think the figures are massaged upwards by clubs by including all seasons regardless of the actual figure in the ground etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 Prem showed some resilience last year after 3 years of decline, but the other leagues are down 3.5% I also think the figures are massaged upwards by clubs by including all seasons regardless of the actual figure in the ground etc... really..? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/21/football-league-attendance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 really..? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/21/football-league-attendance Don't let facts get in the way. Prem attendances are shocking this season though, despite what that article says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 having so many games on TV is also bound to affect attendances. Leeds away for example. £36 for a ticket. £3 for Cortese. £65 petrol, £5 parking...or just watch it on the box. Something needs to be done to attract fans to televised games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 Don't let facts get in the way. Prem attendances are shocking this season though, despite what that article says. prem attendaces have been pretty constant.....the main alterations in the NPC and League 1 over the last year or two is the change of newcastle between the leagues and Leeds/norwich and saints also.. other than that. it has remain pretty constant..if not, on the up no wonder it costs a fortune....us mugs will simply pay it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 (edited) really..? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/21/football-league-attendance that is a 2 year old article referring to even older stats. This below is more upto date, authoritative, and shows the Prem decline before slight rise last year. Also comments on 3.5% decline in rest of the English leagues: http://johndix.co.uk/app/download/4893325002/Is+the+Premier+League+Recession+Proof.pdf and as someone said above, this season Prem attendances have been awful outside of Manchester and Arse. Acres of empty seats. Edited 18 February, 2012 by adrian lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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