Paul Chuckle Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 Not been involved last few games. Injured? Not good enough? Being kept out of squad by better players???
Stu Man Do Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 Looked average/below average on debut and we now have better/more on form players back in the squad. Seems a pretty pointless loan thus far in the O'Hallaran(sp?) loan a few seasons back. Bagpuss will not be happy!
Thedelldays Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 Looked average/below average on debut and we now have better/more on form players back in the squad. Seems a pretty pointless loan thus far in the O'Hallaran(sp?) loan a few seasons back. Bagpuss will not be happy! basically...you have written him off alraedy bound to be a great player then
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 NA is doing a fantastic job, but his signings perm/loan have been very average! 1 in 3 tend to be good
Colinjb Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 Just being kept out by better I feel. No-one could have predicted Puncheon making his peace with the establishment so he was signed as contingency.... Feel a bit sorry for him actually, looked to have some flair but was a bit off the pace.
Thedelldays Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 NA is doing a fantastic job, but his signings perm/loan have been very average! 1 in 3 tend to be good lol
Stu Man Do Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 basically...you have written him off alraedy bound to be a great player then Not at all. I merely answered the OP's question as to why he may not have played. He may be excellent as I said "thus far" he is more O'hallaran than Saganowski in his prowess as a loan player. Happy to help you understand my opinion ;-)
RobM Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 NA is doing a fantastic job, but his signings perm/loan have been very average! 1 in 3 tend to be good Wow. Just wow. Hard to judge Falque on what we've seen of him, but he wouldn't have come here to not even make the bench I'm sure! But without cup games, I just don't see where he will get his chance to play, we're not in the position to blood new players when we have our own players, who all have more experience of playing for Saints, on the bench as well.
Littlelat17 Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 Picked up injury - NA says he is still very much in his plans Source: Solent Twitter
saints-cris Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 Hes up against some fairly good players in Lallana, Puncheon,, Guly, De Ridder (who also isnt even making the bench) When he came in we were short, now were not so much.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 He played on Tuesday v brighton U21s
S-Clarke Posted 16 February, 2012 Posted 16 February, 2012 It'll be interesting to see how he plays in a confident, stronger team. I think he's probably one of the most talented players we have. bundles of ability.
saint lard Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 NA is doing a fantastic job, but his signings perm/loan have been very average! 1 in 3 tend to be good Spot on.
david in sweden Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 Not been involved last few games. Injured? Not good enough? Being kept out of squad by better players??? He is ONLY on loan. Thankfully our regular players are getting fit / back to form now, but if we get a string of injuries again ..(?)..he could prove invaluable.
david in sweden Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 Should we loan him to Pompey? Can you loan out a player that you've loaned in ? ..I think a more interesting question would be ..who would pay him...and with what? Pompey are already broke, and we surely can't take 3 tons of cod as payment every week !
spyinthesky Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 NA is doing a fantastic job, but his signings perm/loan have been very average! 1 in 3 tend to be good Like you I think Adkins forays in the transfer/loan markets have not been wonderfully successful (compared to Pardew for example) However remeember Dave jones saying that he worked on an average of 1 in 3 of his new players would be successful Of course it depends on who brings in the players eg Scouts/Chairman etc
Thedelldays Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 (edited) Like you I think Adkins forays in the transfer/loan markets have not been wonderfully successful (compared to Pardew for example) However remeember Dave jones saying that he worked on an average of 1 in 3 of his new players would be successful Of course it depends on who brings in the players eg Scouts/Chairman etc pardew had trotmann, mellis, otsemobor.....pretty poor players really seaborne has hardly featured really either...injury or not dickson has hardly been a regular Edited 17 February, 2012 by Thedelldays
once_bitterne Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 Puncheon coming back into the fold has rendered him obselete! I can't imagine Spurs as too happy about the situation as he was loaned out to get more games and he is actually playing less for us than he did for them as he played in their Europa and FA Cup ties. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the loan cancelled in the next couple of weeks and him return to WHL as at least he would get regular games in the Premier League reserve league.
Saint Stimp Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 It's embarrassing how many wrote him off based on 50 minutes with our worst team performance of the season. Doubt they thought Puncheon would be back when he signed, probably won't get used now but he seems pretty good. He didn't even play that badly...
adrian lord Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 Puncheon coming back into the fold has rendered him obselete! I can't imagine Spurs as too happy about the situation as he was loaned out to get more games and he is actually playing less for us than he did for them as he played in their Europa and FA Cup ties. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the loan cancelled in the next couple of weeks and him return to WHL as at least he would get regular games in the Premier League reserve league. yes i can see this happening
Amazing Hangover Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 He's the Tommy Forecast makewiegt in this summer's Lallana deal, apparently.
Professor Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 Seems to me there is a place for Falque in the squad. He has replaced Forte and is probably 4th wingman behind Puncheon, de Ridder and Lallana. That the team often a has a MF player playing wide doesn't detract from the need for wing cover.
Clifford Nelson Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 I've seen 50 minutes of him play, and that was very poor. He is 22 years old and has never played regularly for any team apart from a year in Spains 2nd division. If he had all that fantastic talent I hear about I would have thought he'd be playing regularly somewhere by now. When we signed him there was a long thread running where the majority were enthusiastic about him and a few, like me, thinking it was an odd signing. After his first appearance for us I commented: Optimists 0 Pessimists 1. I reckon that's where it stands at the moment. Did he set the world alight in the U 21s?
Window Cleaner Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 Seems to me there is a place for Falque in the squad. He has replaced Forte and is probably 4th wingman behind Puncheon, de Ridder and Lallana. That the team often a has a MF player playing wide doesn't detract from the need for wing cover. Don't forget you have to fit Guly in among the wingmen now and Chaplow. So in effect you have Falque,Lallana,Puncheon,Guly,Chappy,De Ridder competing for 2 places, not to mention Reeves. So you choose betewwen Punch and Guly for the right spot, Lallana on the left and shake the bag for whoever else gets the other place on the bench for an attacking midfielder.
Son of Bob Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 I cant spell makewieght That's abundantly clear!
david in sweden Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 NA is doing a fantastic job, but his signings perm/loan have been very average! 1 in 3 tend to be good I think most sides tend NOT to loan out their best players, do they? ...sometimes giving a chance for a fringe player to get games (as we have with Dickson and Holmes), or to help a player get back to form after injury or, on other occasions it seems the best loans are those where the player doesn't get along with his (former)manager. ala... Chaplow at Preston, (Darren F. must be kicking himself over that one) and Lennon (Celtic) didn't see the qualities in Jos Hooiveld that NA obviously did. Frankly, I'm quite surprised the figure you quote is only 1 in 3....it's not as if we 're looking to sign most of them permanently !
derry Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 I've seen 50 minutes of him play, and that was very poor. He is 22 years old and has never played regularly for any team apart from a year in Spains 2nd division. If he had all that fantastic talent I hear about I would have thought he'd be playing regularly somewhere by now. When we signed him there was a long thread running where the majority were enthusiastic about him and a few, like me, thinking it was an odd signing. After his first appearance for us I commented: Optimists 0 Pessimists 1. I reckon that's where it stands at the moment. Did he set the world alight in the U 21s? And me.
Saint_clark Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 It'll be interesting to see how he plays in a confident, stronger team. I think he's probably one of the most talented players we have. bundles of ability. Interesting. Based on what?
SuperSAINT Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 Interesting. Based on what? Former Barcelona graduate who Spurs have signed... He's bound to be technically brilliant.
S-Clarke Posted 17 February, 2012 Posted 17 February, 2012 Interesting. Based on what? Based on Spurs fans views, and some views from people in Spain. He quite clearly has exceptional technical ability, just slightly lightweight in my first viewing of him.
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