doddisalegend Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 This time by calling in the support of a famous (sort of) US actor...... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17022603 It seems that the Film Actors Guild (F.A.G.) is alive and kicking...........time to call team America:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 some of the stuff in the papers lately has been laughable and...err just plain untrue argies won't kick off....they would get a pasting if they did now...their only hope (and what they seem to be trying) is for other nations forcing the UKs hand in opening talks on the islands.......which I can't see happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 We should give up the Falklands immediately. Penn is right, this kind of colonial nonesense is out dated and immoral. I trust the Argies will do likewise and f**k off back to Spain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2012 some of the stuff in the papers lately has been laughable and...err just plain untrue argies won't kick off....they would get a pasting if they did now...their only hope (and what they seem to be trying) is for other nations forcing the UKs hand in opening talks on the islands.......which I can't see happening The Argies ..know they can't win a shooting war ...they're armed forces are in worst state than last time. That's why we're getting all this other stuff they're trying to get world opinion on their side. I have to say that getting actors in though is the most laughable thing of the lot......It just made me think of the moive Team America straight away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 We should give up the Falklands immediately. Penn is right, this kind of colonial nonesense is out dated and immoral. I trust the Argies will do likewise and f**k off back to Spain? And Italy,Wales and Germany , would work wonders for European Unemployment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Since the only real basis for Argentina's claim to the Islands , in spite of the wishes of those whose ancestors have lived there since 1833, is that they are approximately 300 miles from the nearest bit of their coast, I'd like them to support us in taking to the UN our claim for large chunks of France , Belgium and the Netherlands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Since the only real basis for Argentina's claim to the Islands , in spite of the wishes of those whose ancestors have lived there since 1833, is that they are approximately 300 miles from the nearest bit of their coast, I'd like them to support us in taking to the UN our claim for large chunks of France , Belgium and the Netherlands And Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 And Ireland No, they can keep that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Sean Penn: "The world today is not going to tolerate any kind of ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology." The US will be giving Texas back to Mexico then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Sean Penn: "The world today is not going to tolerate any kind of ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology." The US will be giving Texas back to Mexico then? And Peurto Rico, Hawaii and the US Virgin Islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 WTF has it got to do with Sean f*cking Penn??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 WTF has it got to do with Sean f*cking Penn??? About as much as Cuba and Venezuela. Lefty innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 About as much as Cuba and Venezuela. Lefty innit. Got nothing to do with being a lefty either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 About as much as Cuba and Venezuela. Lefty innit. Why has he even been traveling around meeting presidents? What does Argentina even want from this? Do they want us to turf out the people who currently live there? Do they want to be given the Falklands and be dictators over the Islanders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Sean Penn: "The world today is not going to tolerate any kind of ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology." The US will be giving Texas back to Mexico then? This bloke is just a mediocre actor. All he does is recite lines in a play or film, nothing significant or momentous. What does he know of anything else that qualifies him to expect that his opinions will carry any weight? And what qualifies him to speak on behalf of the World? Why doesn't he address his thoughts towards China and their occupation of Tibet instead? Or is the World today tolerant of Chinese colonialist ideology? Why isn't this imbecile addressing his futile rants towards the White House about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 This bloke is just a mediocre actor. All he does is recite lines in a play or film, nothing significant or momentous. What does he know of anything else that qualifies him to expect that his opinions will carry any weight? And what qualifies him to speak on behalf of the World? Why doesn't he address his thoughts towards China and their occupation of Tibet instead? Or is the World today tolerant of Chinese colonialist ideology? Why isn't this imbecile addressing his futile rants towards the White House about that? Make your mind up, Lord T. Do you want him to shut up or to go on 'ranting'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Make your mind up, Lord T. Do you want him to shut up or to go on 'ranting'? Shutup, but if he has to have a rant, direct it at more deserving causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Shutup, but if he has to have a rant, direct it at more deserving causes. Agreed. This is a less deserving cause. As the great Argentinian writer Borges said, Britain and Argentina fighting over the Falklands is like two bald men fighting over a comb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 WTF has it got to do with Sean f*cking Penn??? He was married to Evita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 In fact we should go and colonise Argentina as well,preferably straight away, we'd have Messi playing for England before the next world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 We could end all these arguments tomorrow. Tell the Argentinians that Britain keeps the Falklands and they can have the Isle of Wight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Agreed. This is a less deserving cause. As the great Argentinian writer Borges said, Britain and Argentina fighting over the Falklands is like two bald men fighting over a comb. I'm somewhat surprised to see that you are a fan of Jorge Borges Comrade Verbal. Although I've only read a few of his books, he was indeed a rather interesting writer. I particularly liked his long term opposition to communism and all that it stood for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 We could end all these arguments tomorrow. Tell the Argentinians that Britain keeps the Falklands and they can have the Isle of Wight. if the islanders wanted to be Argentinean though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 I'm somewhat surprised to see that you are a fan of Jorge Borges Comrade Verbal. Although I've only read a few of his books, he was indeed a rather interesting writer. I particularly liked his long term opposition to communism and all that it stood for. Why does that surprise you O Lord of the Long Wind? Borges is one of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 if the islanders wanted to be Argentinean though Oh they would - just to get shot of those cretinous overners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Why does that surprise you O Lord of the Long Wind? Borges is one of us. But I thought you were unique Comrade - the rest of your type died out years ago surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 (edited) if the islanders wanted to be Argentinean though Half of them apparently support Portsmouth so their discernement in important affairs must be open to question. Edited 14 February, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 But I thought you were unique Comrade - the rest of your type died out years ago surely. I'm willing to make an exception with Borges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 I'm willing to make an exception with Borges. Why how big of you. Stalin would had had him in the Gulag of course, but I'm glad to see you are still open to bourgeois anti party propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 We could end all these arguments tomorrow. Tell the Argentinians that Britain keeps the Falklands and they can have the Isle of Wight. +1 Not even as if we have any more 'right' than some of our European neighbours! Apropos The Falklands, I have been doing a little research It appears that although the islands were claimed by several nations which planted flags there, they were not settled by Europeans until the late 18th Century when the French established a settlement, at what they called Port Louis, in 1764. As Many know, they named the islands Les Iles Malouines in honour of sailors and fishermen from the French Port of St Malo, from which the French ship had sailed, an inhabitant of that port being called un malouin (feminine une malouine.) The British had been the first to record the existence of the islands. A certain John Davis having sighted them in 1592. One John Strong was the first to land, in 1690. He named the islands after the Treasurer of the Navy, Viscount Falkland, and then sailed on. In short, they might have planted a flag there, but they did not settle there, and it is useful to note that the islands remained uninhabited until the French landed 74 years later. A year after the French established a foothold, the British, apparently unaware of the French presence, landed a force on what they called Saunders Island, and claimed all the islands for Britain. So with respect to all those claiming the moral high ground, when the British landed to settle, they were not alone. Not long afterwards, it appears, the French ceded the islands to Spain who kept them for 60 years. Spanish forces make repeated efforts to expel the British from Saunders Island, finally being able to do so in 1774. However archeological finds suggest that Amerindians from Tierra de Fuego might have been there long before the European ventures, a possibility which could be said to strengthen the Argentine case. This case rests on the fact that under the Spanish the islands were part of the Vice Royalty of the River Plate, the part of which was the future Argentina. So when the inhabitants of the vice royalty declared their independence from Spain, establishing this finally in 1816, they naturally considered the islands to have become part and parcel of Argentina. It is perhaps little known that Argentina took the Malvinas in 1820. Britain claimed the islands anew in 1832a claim based solely on their previous occupation of Saunders Island from which they were expelled 58 years before and evicted the Argentines. This distilled information was gleaned from: http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ac51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 The Falkland Islands have a long and complicated settlement history, but it seems perfectly clear that under various UN treaties the existing populations acknowledged right to self determination makes our claim legally preeminent under international law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Penn supports Hugo Chavez who has presided over a more than DOUBLING of Venezuela's homicide rate. Nice one. Now **** off back to America and shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 some of the stuff in the papers lately has been laughable and...err just plain untrue argies won't kick off....they would get a pasting if they did now...their only hope (and what they seem to be trying) is for other nations forcing the UKs hand in opening talks on the islands.......which I can't see happening Not with the Conservatives running the show. With Labour that's a different matter. Blair wanted to give Gibraltar away FFS. He should be tried for treason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Personally i think he's a great actor, he's also done some great work in Haiti and New Orleans with his own money and effort. However without having visited the islands and spoken to the locals i have no idea how he can come to the opinion he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Why how big of you. Stalin would had had him in the Gulag of course, but I'm glad to see you are still open to bourgeois anti party propaganda. No, he'd have to be re-educated. Otherwise the gulag awaits. (Or it would be if he were not long dead.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 February, 2012 Share Posted 15 February, 2012 No, they can keep that. hehehehehe The Argies are whining because their previous round of whining got our attention, and now we've got a hunter killer, extra Typhoons on QRA and a frigate approaching the area that can blow their operative air force out of the sky, without reloads, within minutes of take-off, all by itself. Oh, and the full attention of the Palace of Westminster now, too. And to top all that off they got Hugo Chavez ranting on their behalf, a colossal PR f**k-up if ever there was one, since it will guarantee the US dont put any Suez-like pressure on us (not that it would work now, benefits of the EU I suppose) I especially loved their foreign minister going to the UN and claiming he had intelligence that we have nukes in the area on HMS Vanguard : As if we'd waste them on Argentina How does he know HMS Vanguard is the sub on patrol currently WTF would our nuclear deterrent be doing in the S. Atlantic unless its targets were Russia / China via trajectories over the S. Pole, which I doubt ( I am sure TDD can furnish us with an answer, but wont) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 15 February, 2012 Share Posted 15 February, 2012 He has as much chance of being President of the USA as Putin. Just imagine , a Hollywood actor in the White House. It will never happen...... Seriously, he sounds like a bit of a thick c#nt trying really hard to sound intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey_saint Posted 15 February, 2012 Share Posted 15 February, 2012 See, this is what you get for being a "bit busy" fighting wars around the globe....we left a flippin sign on the islands that said "toodle pip boys/daegos/wops/itaes/indibobs, we're off for a jolly good pasting of those 'orrible froggies, please be kind enough to not squat on our land and ifso please vacate once we return". Classic story really...the Argies (the river plate confederation/ corsairs) being the squatters. There is a valuable lesson to be learned here: Don't leave your house unnattended for squatters to come and take residence and in this case, even when you think you're shot of em, they still moan that they once squatted there....nightmare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Attacked us again today http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4132477/Sean-Penn-in-second-attack-on-Britain.html What a douche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 The BBC has an excellent, and remarkably even-handed explanation of both sides' claims over this. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17045169 I can't imagine any Argentinian media publishing anything that objective. The BBC's page is of course very brief, and therefore misses out some details. One important claim in the Islanders' interpetation of history, is that it was actually the USA's Navy that ejected the handful of settlers from the islands in the 1800's , (leaving them empty for full , continuous, British settlement some years later, from 1833) because they were pirates, who had been attacking the American whaling ships. It is very debatable what nartionality these 20 or so pirates were, or by what right they were there. Bear in mind by the way that this ejection was not long after the US and Britian were enemies in the often forgotten war of 1812. Thet were certainly not acting as our allies at the time. I have visited the Falkands personally, and they are, uncannnily and surreally, totally British in every way -- apart from the alien wildlife. It's like going to the Yorkshire moors and finding penguins and sea lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 WTF would our nuclear deterrent be doing in the S. Atlantic unless its targets were Russia / China via trajectories over the S. Pole, which I doubt ( I am sure TDD can furnish us with an answer, but wont) our nuclear missile could probably hit anywhere on the globe when launched from any position. how on earth would argentina know if we had any subs down there...let alone a trident boat.... laughable and attention grabbing in the extreme argentina are trying to flex their colonial muscles IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/16/sean-penn-falkland-islands-comments-idiotic-says-simon-weston_n_1281143.html?ref=mostpopular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 This is stupid, I still think the Argies may have more claim to the islands but frankly Britain has no intention of ceding them and it would never come to blows they should just shut up. Sean f-ing Penn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 This is stupid, I still think the Argies may have more claim to the islands but frankly Britain has no intention of ceding them and it would never come to blows they should just shut up. Sean f-ing Penn. buenos aries is as close to the falklands as london is to benghazi also, if you drew a 300 miles circle around the UK......imagine what we could 'lay claim' to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 buenos aries is as close to the falklands as london is to benghazi also, if you drew a 300 miles circle around the UK......imagine what we could 'lay claim' to And S. Georgia is 1000 miles even further away And the S. Sandwich Islands group is a further 300miles away from that. By that logic, Argentian can start claiming the Carribean islands. Its a load of b*ll*cks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 buenos aries is as close to the falklands as london is to benghazi also, if you drew a 300 miles circle around the UK......imagine what we could 'lay claim' to But you'd have to draw an 8,000 mile circle around the UK to include to Falklands! Anyway, apparently you're heading for joint command with the French after Cameron's and Sarkozy's cosying up, so this tatty excuse or flag-waving may not be looked upon so favourably in the future. Presumably you'll be announcing your name change to Le Delljours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 But you'd have to draw an 8,000 mile circle around the UK to include to Falklands! Anyway, apparently you're heading for joint command with the French after Cameron's and Sarkozy's cosying up, so this tatty excuse or flag-waving may not be looked upon so favourably in the future. Presumably you'll be announcing your name change to Le Delljours? and of course...you know what you are on about don't you...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 and of course...you know what you are on about don't you...lol Bien sur, mon ami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA77 Posted 18 February, 2012 Share Posted 18 February, 2012 Lefty was Pacino. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 February, 2012 Share Posted 27 February, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17157373 Great summary on the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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