Saint-Reece Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2609848,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Lee Holmes has been loaned out to Oxford United. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2609848,00.html Good luck to him, he could do well for them. The Championship was just a step too far, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Bah! Can't type quick enough! Mods, do your thing please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 I think it will be good for him, and Oxford, who are pushing for promotion. Good luck to both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 He will do well in league 2. A nice guy and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Good luck to him. Sadly there are just too many people called Lee at the club these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 How do you know the championship was a step to far? how many miniutes of champ football has he actually played this season, I remember him scoring a cracking goal earlier in the season. Lee's biggest problem seems to be he is made of glass rather than his ability. Hopefully he can stay fit and get some games. I imagine his inability to stay fit for any length of time has done for his saints career rather than his ability to do a job for us on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Good luck to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Surprised he's dropped down to L2, bit of a coup for them IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Best thing for him is to just try and get a run of games going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Sounds like a decent challenge. Good luck, hope he has a good spell and stays injury free! Hard to believe he's only 25 the amount of times he's been injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Surprised he's dropped down to L2, bit of a coup for them IMO. Regular football, hopefully the opportunity to have an impact on games and can still live at home with his family, I'd suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Good signing for Oxford. I too am shocked he's only 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 How do you know the championship was a step to far? how many miniutes of champ football has he actually played this season, I remember him scoring a cracking goal earlier in the season. Lee's biggest problem seems to be he is made of glass rather than his ability. Hopefully he can stay fit and get some games. I imagine his inability to stay fit for any length of time has done for his saints career rather than his ability to do a job for us on the field. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 (edited) How do you know the championship was a step to far? how many miniutes of champ football has he actually played this season, I remember him scoring a cracking goal earlier in the season. Lee's biggest problem seems to be he is made of glass rather than his ability. Hopefully he can stay fit and get some games. I imagine his inability to stay fit for any length of time has done for his saints career rather than his ability to do a job for us on the field. Well that's debateable isn't it. As far as I know he's been fit all this season and has been given virtually no opportunities. That would be rather because the manager considers his skills as lesser than the other players available rather than fear of him getting injured. Holmes would be out of contract this summer so as we have little apparent use for him then it's logical that he's been allowed to try to show what he can do elsewhere. Edited 14 February, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 How do you know the championship was a step to far? how many miniutes of champ football has he actually played this season, I remember him scoring a cracking goal earlier in the season. Lee's biggest problem seems to be he is made of glass rather than his ability. Hopefully he can stay fit and get some games. I imagine his inability to stay fit for any length of time has done for his saints career rather than his ability to do a job for us on the field. Football is all about opinions, and, OK he hasn't really had a fair crack this season, but when he has played, he's hardly dazzled. I am disappointed for him like I'm disappointed for Dan Harding. They've just looked wanting at this level - all IMHO, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Not good enough for us but that's a great signing for Oxford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Good luck to him, unfortunately he's just not good enough for us. I reckon he could do a job at a bottom half championship side though. Good signing for Oxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Good luck to him. Sadly there are just too many people called Lee at the club these days. Don't such a Leeist. Leeisum just ain't Saintly FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 That's a surprisingly big drop for him to L2. Good luck to him & hope he can stay fit & get regular football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Commutable from Southampton area so a sensible place for a fitness loan. I like Lee Holmes but agree on his injury record hampering him, certainly an upper half League 1 / lower Championship player if the team plays to his strengths. Good luck Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Nice first touch, and a great attitude, but that's it. Not good enough and never was. When we were struggling to avoid going bust I could just about live with it, but not now. Never anything but a great professional, but there is no room for sentiment in professional football. Best of luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvaughanwilliams Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 I've always been impressed by his application and his attitude. It's possible that these qualities have made me consider him in a too favourable light, but I've always thought he was a decent player. He plays a position with discipline, tracks back and has a fairly decent cross. I was also surprised that he dropped down to League 2, surely he's better than that. I guess the only advantage to that is that he should play every game. League 2 does have a reputation for harsh tackling though. Wonder how long he'll stay fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Met Lee a few weeks ago, he was really a very nice guy who took the time to stop and talk to an old boy who waffled on for quite a while and was happy to stop and pose for photos. Good luck to him, top bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Like others am surprised he is dropping down to lg2. Maybe its because he has only played 24 games in the past three and a half years so has dropped off of other managers' radar. A good spell at Oxford will get him a lot more options f'sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Think some of the past criticism of Holmes is a bit unfair. In the start he had a run of games and scored a couple of goals (?) then one injury ..and another. Sincwe which the occasional sub.app for 5-30 mins. isn't real football and if he gets half a dozen games at L2 level we might see a totally different player returning to us. He always struck me as one player who so much potential and never the chance to string a few games together - hardly his fault. Good Luck Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Model professional, gives 100% and also comes across as a thoroughly decent bloke, but given his injury history I just cant see him figuring in NA's plans from here on in. Oxford is a good loan move for him and for them, hopefully he will get a proper run of games there. Best of British luck to him, I really hope he does well there. Would be fantastic to see Lee help Oxford to promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 If he manages to stay fit he should have a big impact in League 2! Getting regular footy would do wonders for his fitness and confidence - and maybe give a stronger hint on what his real level is... I'd love to hear regular updates on this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 He is only loaned for a month initially. I wish him well - I thought he could make the grade for us but hasn't so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sammysaint Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Top Pro after he scored a few weeks ago, thought he might of got more of a run, but puncheons return has effected his chances. I think if he does well and comes back fully fit he might be involved more specially if one of the main lads Guly Puncheon or Lallana get injured (touch wood not Lallana). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Got the entire second half today in their 2-1 win over Dagenham. Can't find any mention of how he did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Don't such a Leeist. Leeisum just ain't Saintly FFS. They come over here, taking jobs from our Dans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 15 February, 2012 Share Posted 15 February, 2012 He's receiving some praise in this thread: http://www.yellowsforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=oufcplayers&action=display&thread=7671 Edit: and here: http://www.yellowsforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=oufcplayers&action=display&thread=7669 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 February, 2012 Share Posted 15 February, 2012 Sadly a case of one of the brightest prospects never really being able to make the grade as expected. His early career (before saints) showed he was being considered as one of the hottest prospects around, you really don't get to be England U19 skipper if you are "not good enough", and to make your pro debut when 15 shows he was probably in the same class as Oxo or Walcott. Seemed to lose his way a little at Derby (coincidence that Burley was manager?) and then to come into the Agent Orange set up at Saints was probably a disaster for his career, compounded of course by serious injury. I suspect his injury has meant that he has lost some of his pace, and in his position that is a fundamental issue. He needs games now to get back to full fitness, and probably needs to consider more of a central midfield role, rather than a winger. Will never make it at Saints now assuming we go up, but really is still perfectly able in the Championship for a mid-table team. Nice bloke, wish him well, but not a long-term prospect for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 15 February, 2012 Share Posted 15 February, 2012 They come over here, taking jobs from our Dans. Made me laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 22 February, 2012 Share Posted 22 February, 2012 Holmes got a full game last night in Oxford's 2-1 win over Barnet. He set up the equaliser with a cross. "Holmes is a great loan signing. He just keeps on going and can cross a ball." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 22 February, 2012 Share Posted 22 February, 2012 Good on him. Still think he's pretty decent back up in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 22 February, 2012 Share Posted 22 February, 2012 I thought he was excellent when he first arrived in that shocking team we had in 2008. The injury setbacks he had that season put pay to his chances of a real career at this level, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 22 February, 2012 Share Posted 22 February, 2012 gSadly a case of one of the brightest prospects never really being able to make the grade as expected. His early career (before saints) showed he was being considered as one of the hottest prospects around, you really don't get to be England U19 skipper if you are "not good enough", and to make your pro debut when 15 shows he was probably in the same class as Oxo or Walcott. Seemed to lose his way a little at Derby (coincidence that Burley was manager?) and then to come into the Agent Orange set up at Saints was probably a disaster for his career, compounded of course by serious injury. I suspect his injury has meant that he has lost some of his pace, and in his position that is a fundamental issue. He needs games now to get back to full fitness, and probably needs to consider more of a central midfield role, rather than a winger. Will never make it at Saints now assuming we go up, but really is still perfectly able in the Championship for a mid-table team. Nice bloke, wish him well, but not a long-term prospect for Saints. I agree Vectis - in part... the whole issue over his future is a lot of IF's...... Asssuming that he continues to be MOM at Oxford, stays fit ..and puts in a goal or two, I would want him to stay. I cannot picture him as first-choice, but someone who CDAJFU as a type SDR /JP. For my part ..the jury is still out. He is still relatively young, has a lot of experience and it would be a shame if he didn't get ONE more chance at the top level. Failing that, he will be a good acquisition for a CC/ L1 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 March, 2012 Share Posted 3 March, 2012 Lee got both of Oxfords assists in their game today against Swindon. Finished 2-0 to Oxford and Oxford had 10 men for 80 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 3 March, 2012 Share Posted 3 March, 2012 From their match thread: "That was a long 45! Clarke and Holmes were superb, amazing game, let's push on to league one!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 March, 2012 Share Posted 3 March, 2012 Found his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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