Giordano Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Am I right in saying No Bart in thh squad?Is it a New tactic for the rest of the season to keep more outfield players"involved" - or did a get this wrong and bart was on the bench?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Bart was left out of the squad. Was only there for the warm up. Is it wrong? Only if Davis gets injured. Calculated risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Who would be stand-in goalie if something happened ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 More outfield options will appease more outfield players in the long run. No back-up keeper is a risk, but how many times has Kelvin been sent off in his career? It can't be many at a guess. Even so, with injury to him or a sending off, Adkins doesn't seem like the type to take massive risks - I'm sure one of the others has been told he's an emergency keeper - and has practised for it in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Someone on a thread raising the question of no GK on the bench, suggested Richarson is the most likely candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Someone on a thread raising the question of no GK on the bench, suggested Richarson is the most likely candidate. Makes logical sense - will always be on the pitch as he's rarely subbed, and thus available to step into the keeper void - and Cork can play right back should he need to cover there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Also it is a tactic that the likes of Blackpool have been using a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Not sure whether I dreamt this but I thought it was Morgan Schneiderlin? Was it Pardew that did something similar and when asked said the standin keep would be spiderman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 "...because we wanted to be positive...." according to Adders interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 After Skates vetoed the 7 subs option cos they couldn't afford that many outfield players, no goalie and 5 dynamic outfield players is a viable risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojones10 Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 i started a thread about this last week as west ham have started doing it. I think its not that much risk, davis is a strong lad and its so rare that a keeper has to be replaced by a sub. richardson is apprently the designated outfield player who would go in goal according to sibley, who metioned it before the blackpool game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 This tactic will further delay Tommy Forecast's debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 Richardson is the out field player/goalkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Mikie Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 Was it Dexter Blackstock that had to do it once against Newcastle? Funny as!!!! He was like a rabbit in headlights, but if I remember correctly pulled off a great flappy stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 Was it Dexter Blackstock that had to do it once against Newcastle? Funny as!!!! He was like a rabbit in headlights, but if I remember correctly pulled off a great flappy stop! He had to wear Bart's shirt and gloves, which were far too big for him. Hopefully, Frazer, or whoever, has goalie kit that fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Mikie Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 He had to wear Bart's shirt and gloves, which were far too big for him. Hopefully, Frazer, or whoever, has goalie kit that fits. That's right! Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 He had to wear Bart's shirt and gloves, which were far too big for him. Hopefully, Frazer, or whoever, has goalie kit that fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 Richardson is the out field player/goalkeeper He's probably better in goal than Bart too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 Teams might try and injury our GK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 Bart probably has a contract clause which states that he can only play once for the first team in any calendar month. Tommy's contract says not before he's been here for 7 seasons. Expect to see Bart back on tuesday though with less attacking options on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 I heard Richardson now trains with the GKs monday, tuesday and wednesday and may change position permanently next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 He's probably better in goal than Bart too!! Shame we did not put that to the test at home to Blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 Teams might try and injury our GK? With the protection goalkeepers get from refs now, I doubt it. Bart probably has a contract clause which states that he can only play once for the first team in any calendar month. Tommy's contract says not before he's been here for 7 seasons. Expect to see Bart back on tuesday though with less attacking options on the bench. Why? Seems pointless to do this for one game and not another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 "...because we wanted to be positive...." according to Adders interview. I don't see it as a totally positive step, but one made to allow for changes in more than one direction. You have certain players being selected to just replace a like for like and over come fatigue / injury. The two players that would have allowed something different were Puncheon and Chung. When you look back at Adkins post Millwall interview that performance shook him to the effect he was not completely sure how things would turn out. First off I believe if the midfield had not done the business against Burnley, Adkins would have made changes very quickly with Puncheon being brought on and then Hammond if no improvement could be found with tinkering. After all the forwards we have brought in there is an improvement, but none with the exception of Chung offers us anything different to what we had prior. I think Chung is quite a few games off being that player but the only one who could provide that Lallana spark. I floated the possibility of not having Bart on the bench in the Burnley build up because I just did not know what midfield would turn up, but never thought Adkins would take the risk. But was it that much of a risk with Burnleys style of play and the nature of their forwards, so hats off to Adkins. What will be interesting is against West Ham, where after putting in a full shift that midfield may come under that expected pressure again without a full tank to reply. The problem is that West Ham have some big forwards and a style of play that could easily see Kelvin getting a knock. I feel there is more need to do this against West Ham but far greater chance of something happening to Kelvin, interesting dilemma for Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 With the protection goalkeepers get from refs now, I doubt it. Why? Seems pointless to do this for one game and not another. No, I mean it's what I expect to see because I don't believe we'll go to West Ham with no sub keeper and we won't need so many attacking options.Anyway there is a precedent,probably when KD was injured though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 How often have we had to replace goal keepers during a match? Jones for Niemi in the cup final is the stand out one. There was Bart in that cup game at Newcastle and I think Poke replaced Davis in a game at Wolves a few years ago. They're the only 3 I can think of in 10 years of supporting Saints. Worth the risk? Depends how much faith you have in an outfield player to DAJFU. This 5 subs rule is sh*te. It completely f**ks everyone's youth team up the a*se and means you have to sacrifice someone like De Ridder or Chaplow just to keep a sub 'keeper on the bench. All done to satisfy clubs like Portsmouth who don't bother with a decent youth set up or can't scrape together 18 players on a match day. Why can't we just let them play with an empty bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 Who would be stand-in goalie if something happened ? let's hope we never have to find out ...Blackstock doesn't play here anymore ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 This tactic will further delay Tommy Forecast's debut. Then long may it continue. Adkins is a better keeper than Tommy Fourpast will ever be. Fact is that not having a keeper on the bench is worth the risk. What's the worst that can happen? Davis gets injured early in game and we lose the game. 3 points. Not the end of the world. Number of times keeper has come off the bench in last 4 or 5 years is certainly less than 5, probably twice? If it happens late in game and we are winning, chances are we will still win, a decent bit of defending from the front and kicking for touch should ensure that. I think its a risk worth taking, at least for a few games. And if we really do have someone in the squad who can stand between the sticks with some semblance of skill then whats the issue? Unless of course the back-up keeper gets injured or sent-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 February, 2012 Share Posted 14 February, 2012 Good on Adkins for sticking with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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