Wes Tender Posted 12 February, 2012 Share Posted 12 February, 2012 Not at all. Well done to him for getting into the right position I suppose, but I witnessed (and what TV evidence conclusively shows) a eminently simple 'bread & butter' pass to Richardson that any non league player could have delivered with ease. If we are to prepared to take something like that as evidence of greatness, then we all better put our boots back on. Now if we are to discuss what Frazer Richardson subsequently did with that simple pass then that was indeed something special. This is the problem with overpraising mediocrity - real ability is in danger of becoming both overlooked and devalued. You stated in defence of your criticism of Guly that furthermore he played no part in either of the goals. And when it was pointed out that he had in fact played a quite significant part in one of the goals (the one that wasn't a fluke), you seek to minimise the part Guly played by saying that any non-league player could have provided that pass. Now, regardless of the fact that in your opinion it was a simple pass, nevertheless it was the pass that led to the goal. So he did play a part in one of the goals. Or are you going to argue your way out of that one too and make yourself look really ridiculous? Nobody is using that pass to demonstrate evidence of his greatness; it is merely used to refute a point you made which was incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=138629839&EditorialProduct=Sport# Link to pics from game by my mates from Getty. (Posted on match thread they uploaded more since) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=138629839&EditorialProduct=Sport# Link to pics from game by my mates from Getty. (Posted on match thread they uploaded more since) I noticed that the BBC use one of those posted on Saturday for their picture on the game report.Morgan stiff arming a Burnley player if I remember rightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 Let me get this right. My opinion - the opinion of a complete stranger - is a matter so very important to you that you are prepared to spend precious spare time trawling the internet looking for support for your viewpoint ? This seems to me a bit of a overreaction to put it mildly. Again for the last time. Although I always take note of differing opinions, I always post what is my own personal view rather than just parrot the opinions of others. If the Duke of Edinburgh were to have flown into St Marys in a helicopter at half time & personally presented Guly do Pardo with the Queens Award for Industry, that would have been great fun, but it would not have altered what my opinion of his performance was one iota. I can make this no clearer. Can I recommend to you the Newsnow website. Set it up as your homepage and it delivers to you all saints related news, updated every 5 minutes, avoiding the need to waste valuable time trawling the Internet and giving you the benefit of alternative views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 Can I recommend to you the Newsnow website. Set it up as your homepage and it delivers to you all saints related news, updated every 5 minutes, avoiding the need to waste valuable time trawling the Internet and giving you the benefit of alternative views. I think I'm rather saturated with Saints related news, but thanks anyway and I will check it out in the fullness of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 I noticed that the BBC use one of those posted on Saturday for their picture on the game report.Morgan stiff arming a Burnley player if I remember rightly. That's how they work, news & other people have accounts with them and use their stock images, most times I notice it in the DT. Only found that as I was pinging some of the pics out to people from the golf here but also a mate worked in Vegas at the 7's at the weekend and needed the link, I was looking for that and bingo - there was our game. Might be a new source of caption comp source material in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 You stated in defence of your criticism of Guly that furthermore he played no part in either of the goals. And when it was pointed out that he had in fact played a quite significant part in one of the goals (the one that wasn't a fluke), you seek to minimise the part Guly played by saying that any non-league player could have provided that pass. Now, regardless of the fact that in your opinion it was a simple pass, nevertheless it was the pass that led to the goal. So he did play a part in one of the goals. Or are you going to argue your way out of that one too and make yourself look really ridiculous? Nobody is using that pass to demonstrate evidence of his greatness; it is merely used to refute a point you made which was incorrect. But you have misquoted me. It is a matter of record that I wrote (post 210) that Guly do Prado "played no decisive role in the either of our goals yesterday" - please note the key employment of the adjective here. Now I can see only three possible explanations for your error: A - You failed to read the post in question carefully enough B - In your haste to disagree with me you forgot what I had actually written C - You have deliberately chosen to misrepresent me in a attempt to strengthen your argument As you are without any doubt one of the more interesting contributers to this forum, I shall be charitable and favor explanations A or B over the shabby explanation C. On the wider point, if everyone who gets any sort of touch on the ball in the passage of play before a goal is scored is now considered to have played a "significant" part in said goal then it seems to me that we are in danger of spreading the credit around rather too thinly for my tastes. On this basis Kelvin Davis gets some sort of 'assist' for virtually every goal we ever score, and even the ball boys may sometimes receive a level of credit they probably don't deserve - fine bunch of lads that they undoubtedly are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 But you have misquoted me. It is a matter of record that I wrote (post 210) that Guly do Prado "played no decisive role in the either of our goals yesterday" - please note the key employment of the adjective here. Now I can see only three possible explanations for your error: A - You failed to read the post in question carefully enough B - In your haste to disagree with me you forgot what I had actually written C - You have deliberately chosen to misrepresent me in a attempt to strengthen your argument As you are without any doubt one of the more interesting contributers to this forum, I shall be charitable and favor explanations A or B over the shabby explanation C. On the wider point, if everyone who gets any sort of touch on the ball in the passage of play before a goal is scored is now considered to have played a "significant" part in said goal then it seems to me that we are in danger of spreading the credit around rather too thinly for my tastes. On this basis Kelvin Davis gets some sort of 'assist' for virtually every goal we ever score, and even the ball boys may sometimes receive a level of credit they probably don't deserve - fine bunch of lads that they undoubtedly are. In the interests of Saintsweb full members, would you PLEASE stop?! If you and Lord Tender start firing such massive chunks of hifalutin pomposity at each other, Baj is going to need more servers. And our subs will go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 13 February, 2012 Share Posted 13 February, 2012 Not at all. Well done to him for getting into the right position I suppose, but I witnessed (and what TV evidence conclusively shows) a eminently simple 'bread & butter' pass to Richardson that any non league player could have delivered with ease. If we are to prepared to take something like that as evidence of greatness, then we all better put our boots back on. Now if we are to discuss what Frazer Richardson subsequently did with that simple pass then that was indeed something special. This is the problem with overpraising mediocrity - real ability is in danger of becoming both overlooked and devalued. Bl##dy hell, I stated that his pass to Richardson was clean & simple! This was in response to your statement " the fact that he played no decisive role in either of our goals is noteworthy" ! Why you then suggest that I consider this to be 'evidence of greatness' bemuses me ! Clearly you have a very strong opinion re, Guly but there is no need to twist my words and exaggerate a view which I did not express ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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