Dalek2003 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 I see on the BBC that Glenn Hoddle is the third most successful manager that England have had in terms of win rate. He was also one of Saints most successful at a time we were in the Premiership. Ironic that Hoddle was rejected by a vocal minority and the another ex Saints manager, 'Harry' could also be the new England manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 10/10 for persistence. 1/10 for creativity 5/10 for trolling. Summary: C-, Must try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 There is still lots of strong support for Hoddle returning to the England job. He's still one of the most talented coaches around and maybe he's had time to reflect on his man management skills. To this day Marian Pahars still thinks Glenn was the best manager he'd played under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Are you Glenn himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Hoddle was/is awful and his treatment of MLT while Hoddle was England manager was shocking and frankly idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Glenn Hoddle is a VERY RUDE SWEAR WORD !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Good footballer c#nt of a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Yes and Hoddle 'managed' 28 games - the next lowest is Capello at 42. With England the more games you 'manage' the worse your win percentage because basically England are crap. So as usual one stat is quoted and others ignored. What you should look at is competitive games and games against top ranking sides - and even then it's fairly meaningless as the stats can never take in the variables which are large in international football. What's more Hoddle is a well known egomanic and would have eventually left when a 'better' or more exciting opportunity arrived - sooner rather than later. The man has a track record... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Tonight, 2 former Celtic managers Martin O'Neill and Tony Mowbry pitted their management skills against one another, as their teams Sunderland and Middlesborough played out an amazing Cup tie. I certainly would never be one to tell them to fck off. Haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long time. And what supporters on both sides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Yes and Hoddle 'managed' 28 games - the next lowest is Capello at 42. With England the more games you 'manage' the worse your win percentage because basically England are crap. So as usual one stat is quoted and others ignored. What you should look at is competitive games and games against top ranking sides - and even then it's fairly meaningless as the stats can never take in the variables which are large in international football. What's more Hoddle is a well known egomanic and would have eventually left when a 'better' or more exciting opportunity arrived - sooner rather than later. The man has a track record... To be fair to him, he did leave Saints for his own home team, possibly the only club in the country that would have tempted him. Wasnt there a clause in his contract that said "if the spurs job becomes vacant" or words to that effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 This is what's called being damned with feint praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 With England the more games you 'manage' the worse your win percentage because basically England are crap.... Surly its the other way around with England, we always manage to qualify with ease against the minnows of Europe and then limp along for a bit in a tournament and then get dumped by a middle ranking side. You can only lose a maximum of twice in a tournament against winning 8 or so qualifying games. So every tournament your win ratio should go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Ironic that Hoddle was rejected by a vocal minority where is the irony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 The sad thing that comes across very clearly. Marcus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese came along and rectified our debts, our past mistakes, yet the supporters of the very same club are still unforgiving, twisted in their thinking and incapable of acknowledging that life goes on, that people learn by their mistakes, become different people. We don't deserve the chance, the opportunity we have been given. The crowd at last nights game showed just where we are. 7 years ago, such was the support, that we had more people turn up at St Mary's for a weekday Reserve game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 There is still lots of strong support for Hoddle returning to the England job.. Only in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Only in your head. TalkSport did a poll over the past week and Hoddle was the 3rd most popular choice to replace Capello after Redknapp and Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 The crowd at last nights game showed just where we are. 7 years ago, such was the support, that we had more people turn up at St Mary's for a weekday Reserve game. It was below freezing on a midweek night in February, no-one had tickets beforehand and they cost £18, there's a recession on, the game was at only 10 days' notice, the manager announced before kick off he was fielding a few reserves, we've been pretty average recently, and no-one cares about the first 5 rounds of the FA Cup any more. It's hardly an indictment of our support, we got 24,000 more fans for a more attractive midweek match 3 months ago when it wasn't bloody freezing, peoples' season tickets were valid and we were winning games in a competition most Saints fans care about, and it didn't matter then that the tickets were £10 more for the walk up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 (edited) TalkSport did a poll over the past week and Hoddle was the 3rd most popular choice to replace Capello after Redknapp and Pardew. I rest my case. Steve Grant was probably 4th. Actually that's a bit harsh on Steve, I'm pretty sure the kind of neanderthal that listens to their brand of made-up argument would regard him as a little too cerebral. Edited 8 February, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Just to bring this back to reality, here are the latest odds from Skybet : Harry Redknapp 2/7 Stuart Pearce 5/1 Guus Hiddink 11/2 Roy Hodgson 12/1 Alan Pardew 14/1 Jose Mourinho 14/1 Arsene Wenger 18/1 Rafael Benítez 20/1 Martin O'Neill 25/1 Pep Guardiola 25/1 Roberto Mancini 33/1 Sam Allardyce 40/1 Brendan Rodgers 40/1 Carlo Ancelotti 50/1 Sven Goran Eriksson 50/1 Tony Pulis 50/1 Ian Holloway 50/1 David Moyes 50/1 Marcelo Lippi 66/1 David Beckham 66/1 Paul Lambert 66/1 Alan Shearer 66/1 Mark Hughes 66/1 Alex Ferguson 66/1 Steve Bruce 66/1 Frank Rijkaard 100/1 Phil Scolari 100/1 Steve McClaren 100/1 Gianfranco Zola 100/1 - - I haven't left anyone out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 Just to bring this back to reality, here are the latest odds from Skybet : Harry Redknapp 2/7 Stuart Pearce 5/1 Guus Hiddink 11/2 Roy Hodgson 12/1 Alan Pardew 14/1 Jose Mourinho 14/1 Arsene Wenger 18/1 Rafael Benítez 20/1 Martin O'Neill 25/1 Pep Guardiola 25/1 Roberto Mancini 33/1 Sam Allardyce 40/1 Brendan Rodgers 40/1 Carlo Ancelotti 50/1 Sven Goran Eriksson 50/1 Tony Pulis 50/1 Ian Holloway 50/1 David Moyes 50/1 Marcelo Lippi 66/1 David Beckham 66/1 Paul Lambert 66/1 Alan Shearer 66/1 Mark Hughes 66/1 Alex Ferguson 66/1 Steve Bruce 66/1 Frank Rijkaard 100/1 Phil Scolari 100/1 Steve McClaren 100/1 Gianfranco Zola 100/1 - - I haven't left anyone out. HCDAJFU. No thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 I thought the FA said the next manager will be English. That would knock that list of 30 possibles down to about 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 Oh dear, what a moronic troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 TalkSport did a poll over the past week and Hoddle was the 3rd most popular choice to replace Capello after Redknapp and Pardew. Possibly everyone voted for Redknap, the whole of Sunderland voted for Pardew and Dalek voted for Hoddle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 At £4.0 milion a year I'm willing to offer my name up. I think I have almost as much experience in managing a football team as Alan Shearer, and he's 66/1, but I've more years of man management than he has ! Must make me more like 50/1. I am English and I'll take the job for only £2.0 million a year - must cut my odds dramatically - please vote for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 Ironic that Hoddle was rejected by a vocal minority and the another ex Saints manager, 'Harry' could also be the new England manager. About as ironic as 10,000 spoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 where is the irony? Or for that matter, the minority... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 10/10 for persistence. 1/10 for creativity 5/10 for trolling. Summary: C-, Must try harder. This - Dalek in Hoddle love in shocker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 Hoddle was/is awful and his treatment of MLT while Hoddle was England manager was shocking and frankly idiotic. few of us would disagree with that statement, especially when you consider MLT's 99% penalty record, something England always lacked and of course..we went out on a penalty shoot-out, didn't we... and MLT wasn't there to do his .... London managers are obsessed with players from the capital clubs , and Venables was also guilty of flagrantly ignoring Matt, when he was clearly the most creative player in the Prem. in the mid 1990's. Both Venables and Hoddle ignored the first two rules of international football...and were guilty of poor judgement. (1) always play your best players, and (2) make sure you have at least 6 players capable of scoring from the penalty spot...after extra time. International tournaments are won and lost on free kicks and spot kicks. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 Why do these statistics include friendlies, we wouldn't include friendlies in SAF's managerial statistics, I cant even remember how we've got on in friendlies under Adkins. Therefore the stats are misleading. capello was a diaster in the WC, as was Hoddle. Hoddle had one great performance, away to Italy and that's it. Most consistant England Manager was proberly Sven, with 3 easy qualifications and 3 quater finals.Even Ramsey and Robson failed to qualify for major tournements. The facts are, we're pretty hopeless. 1 world cup won at home, 1 euro semi final again at home, and a semi final, where we beat a naive Cameron after stinking the place out in previous games. How many times have we beaten Germany, Brazil, or the Argies in competetive games in the past 45 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 9 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 February, 2012 There is still lots of strong support for Hoddle returning to the England job. He's still one of the most talented coaches around and maybe he's had time to reflect on his man management skills. To this day Marian Pahars still thinks Glenn was the best manager he'd played under. True, and other England players have said that glenn Hoddle was by far the most talented of England coaches. I have a feeling that he could manage England again or take Saints into the Premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 9 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 February, 2012 Possibly everyone voted for Redknap, the whole of Sunderland voted for Pardew and Dalek voted for Hoddle! I did and I attempted a phone in but ran out of time. I was going to bring the Saints link into my argument live on air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 By the way matt and hoddle have buried the hatchet. Would not say kissed and made up but are on better terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 True, and other England players have said that glenn Hoddle was by far the most talented of England coaches. I have a feeling that he could manage England again or take Saints into the Premier league. Wibble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 I think it's also worth looking at what Hoddle has done since he was last in management. His academy thing was a complete flop, I think he was hounded out of his base in Jerez in the end. All those players he helped, where are they now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 9 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 February, 2012 You may think that i am mad Alehouse, but a lot of people in the past have had that label only to be seen later as ahead of the crowd ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 9 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 February, 2012 Good to see a Hoddle thread at the top of the board 8 years down the line ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 I see on the BBC that Glenn Hoddle is the third most successful manager that England have had in terms of win rate. He was also one of Saints most successful at a time we were in the Premiership. Ironic that Hoddle was rejected by a vocal minority and the another ex Saints manager, 'Harry' could also be the new England manager. I'd be interested to read your thoughts on MLT. Was Davros right to leave him out of the national side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 9 February, 2012 Share Posted 9 February, 2012 I loved Hoddle as manager and wanted him back. I also thought he was a really good England manager. I think Dalek is Hoddle you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 You may think that i am mad Alehouse, but a lot of people in the past have had that label only to be seen later as ahead of the crowd ! and a lot more have been found to be completely mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 I loved Hoddle as manager and wanted him back. I also thought he was a really good England manager. I think Dalek is Hoddle you know! His mother, more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 (edited) If Hoddle was as good as Dalek thinks he is he would still be in a job. Did a decent job for us once but has achieved nothing since. Edited 10 February, 2012 by sambosa75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 You may think that i am mad Alehouse, but a lot of people in the past have had that label only to be seen later as ahead of the crowd ! Name 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 What are Dalek's view on disabled people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 What are Dalek's view on disabled people? Both are fans of ramps instead of stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Both are fans of ramps instead of stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 March, 2012 Share Posted 26 March, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17510682 "Former England manager Glenn Hoddle has suggested he would be interested in leading his country again at this summer's European Championships." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 26 March, 2012 Share Posted 26 March, 2012 **** it, it's got to be better than Pearce and frankly, I don't give a **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 March, 2012 Share Posted 26 March, 2012 (edited) I never like being rude about people... BUT here goes.........I always thought Mr Hoddle was an idiot. I am sure Dalek is not an idiot (mind you I do not know this poster..so I might be mistaken ) but possibly a little misguided;) I am able to make this judgement because I have been an idiot for many years......So my wife is always saying.. Edited 26 March, 2012 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 26 March, 2012 Share Posted 26 March, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17510682 "Former England manager Glenn Hoddle has suggested he would be interested in leading his country again at this summer's European Championships." Well, if he doesn't get the job, it can only be because he did something wrong in a previous lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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