MAY-Z Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 will be interesting to see the reactions here but we have won 4 of our last 15 games which is no where near good enough. he inherited a good squad far above the level we were playing at then carried that momentum into the new season. since we that momentum has stopped we have been completely rubbish. 15 games is far to long to be considered a temporary and he needs to do something to turn this around or he would surely be in trouble soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 will be interesting to see the reactions here but we have won 4 of our last 15 games which is no where near good enough. he inherited a good squad far above the level we were playing at then carried that momentum into the new season. since we that momentum has stopped we have been completely rubbish. 15 games is far to long to be considered a temporary and he needs to do something to turn this around or he would surely be in trouble soon What are you implying ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Gosh, that didn't take long in coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Wum-derful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I missed his reaction as the saints player stream cut off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Yes, because the past 10 years supporting Saints proves that the only way to improve form is to sack the manager. Don't be a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I think the criticism against him is wrong at the moment. I think he's done enough to earn everyone's trust in him, including the chairman. If I trust anyone to get us out of this slump then its Adkins. He knows the players, he knows the squad, and the coaching staff and himself know what they have to do to get us out of this - I'm sure of it. The problem is our start has raised the expectations beyond anything that was expected. Our squad isn't really a top 2 squad, in my opinion. We're a good championship team, but I think teams like Cardiff, Birmingham, WHU etc are now catching us up as I feel they have better all round squads for this level - which comes as no surprise seeing as they've been up here for years. It will be an amazing achievement to finish in the top 2 with the squad we have and the teams we're up against, just a bit of reality IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWoody83 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Doom & gloom merchants are starting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Not sure anyone has noticed, but we are in second efffing place, ffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry, but this has been a good season and we are just getting our first choice line up back! we also have Sharp, and we also battered cardiff in second half last week, jeez!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 2 words. 4 and 3. First word ends 'K', 2nd word begins 'O'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 What are you implying ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I was thinking the same thing, is he out of his depth, has he done to much to soon ? Don`t get me wrong I am enjoying the ride but will the powers that be let the slide carry on for much longer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_coxy Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Adkins has performed miracles at this club since he took over not 18 months ago. No one thought we would have performed this well up to this point this season and Adkins should not be under pressure what so ever. Every team goes through a bad patch but we will come out the other side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Also, the other teams around us are being beaten by each other!! We have the talent and desire to do this BIG time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I was thinking the same thing, is he out of his depth, has he done to much to soon ? Don`t get me wrong I am enjoying the ride but will the powers that be let the slide carry on for much longer ? I really hope you arent being serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I was thinking the same thing, is he out of his depth, has he done to much to soon ? Don`t get me wrong I am enjoying the ride but will the powers that be let the slide carry on for much longer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_southy Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Expectations were set impossibly high at the start of this season and we've plummeted down the form table but I fully expect everyone to pick themselves up, dust off and continue the campaign. To panic and freak out now would be a mistake and only add to our worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 We may be second from top but since November we've looked more like a team that second from bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Balls, i wanted to use one of those, it says everything! Never know where to find them!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I will settle for second in th actual table, not the bloody form table!!!!! how many bloody injuries have we had???????? and West Ham are due a few, everyone will fancy doing an Ipswich on them!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 You do wonder though, how is NC taking it? Is he the sort to continually put up with poor results, it could be interesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I hate losing in the last minute. Can't remember the last time that happened. But cortese will not be too worried about the cup. Only 5 of the last 15 games were actually league defeats. Anyway, it is what happens from now that counts. We have new players settling in and hopefully that quality will see things start to gel. Can't believe anyone would seriously criticise NA at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Balls, i wanted to use one of those, it says everything! Never know where to find them!!! I've got 3 months of facepalm supplies left so should hopefully last me until the end of the season, but have started using them up at an alarming rate recently. #worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 You do wonder though, how is NC taking it? Is he the sort to continually put up with poor results, it could be interesting? I'm hopeful that NA has earnt his trust for the long term- which I feel he should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Do any of you think the form since the end of November has been acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I'm hopeful that NA has earnt his trust for the long term- which I feel he should have. So do I, but after AP, The Sun, Illingsworth, The Echo.... he's a funny and tempremental man perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 So do I, but after AP, The Sun, Illingsworth, The Echo.... he's a funny and tempremental man perhaps? It does make you wonder, I must admit! I'm hopeful he's learnt from those mistakes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Do any of you think the form since the end of November has been acceptable? Nope, it's been **** quite frankly. That doesn't mean the manager needs to go at any point in the near future though. There's a bigger picture to take into account in terms of what NA is building long term, and what he's done for us before this slump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Ei ei ei o up the football league we go! Great job, and yes blips can go on this long, of course they can. We have the players to get us back on track. Let's enjoy the season and wait and see how it pans out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Do any of you think the form since the end of November has been acceptable? No. Next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Goodbye friends on the forum, anyone would think we were 8 points adrift at bottom of table!!!! Bad night at office, maybe too many recently, but we are getting back to full strength! We need to support now, not slag off!! Good times ahead, jeez, we were close to going under three years ago! enjoy not despair!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Said this thread was looming a couple of weeks ago and this is where our season could start to fall apart fans booing at matches will soon turn to chanting for the manager out and then we will be left where we have always been in recent years after the revolving door spins. Gutted that our fans are so fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I think the criticism against him is wrong at the moment. I think he's done enough to earn everyone's trust in him, including the chairman. If I trust anyone to get us out of this slump then its Adkins. He knows the players, he knows the squad, and the coaching staff and himself know what they have to do to get us out of this - I'm sure of it. The problem is our start has raised the expectations beyond anything that was expected. Our squad isn't really a top 2 squad, in my opinion. We're a good championship team, but I think teams like Cardiff, Birmingham, WHU etc are now catching us up as I feel they have better all round squads for this level - which comes as no surprise seeing as they've been up here for years. It will be an amazing achievement to finish in the top 2 with the squad we have and the teams we're up against, just a bit of reality IMO. Can I just pull you up on this point. Cortese was talking about "not only being promoted...but going up as champions" way back when the weather was still warm at the end of August/early September whenever it was. Adkins has been talking about "winning the division" [his words, not mine] for a while now. It's jolly convenient to wheel out the old "the fans have got unrealistic expectations" chestnut, but it is utter bo llocks. The chief exec and the team manager have set their stall out to not only get promoted but win the division. And to be clear, I don't disagree with your assessment of the squad, and of the competition potentially coming up on the rails. Just want to make the point that it is not the fans fault expectations are raised, and it is not even the fault of our good start (if that can be a fault). The two principals in this football club are trying to win the league. That's the expectation. That's what they have to live up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I knew I should have avoided this place for a few days. I sometimes feel our fans don't deserve success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 NA has taken us from the bottom of League One to the top of the Championship in a lot less than 2 seasons. We may not agree with every decision he makes but I think some people are either writing out of anger/frustration due to our poor run the past couple of months or they are getting a bit greedy and forgetting how far we have come in such a short space of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Can I just pull you up on this point. Cortese was talking about "not only being promoted...but going up as champions" way back when the weather was still warm at the end of August/early September whenever it was. Adkins has been talking about "winning the division" [his words, not mine] for a while now. It's jolly convenient to wheel out the old "the fans have got unrealistic expectations" chestnut, but it is utter bo llocks. The chief exec and the team manager have set their stall out to not only get promoted but win the division. And to be clear, I don't disagree with your assessment of the squad, and of the competition potentially coming up on the rails. Just want to make the point that it is not the fans fault expectations are raised, and it is not even the fault of our good start (if that can be a fault). The two principals in this football club are trying to win the league. That's the expectation. That's what they have to live up to. He said the same to the Charlton chairman when we were -10 points in L1. I think he gets a little excited sometimes. I do think that's now our target though, seeing as we've been up there for so long. Whether we've got the squad to maintain it is a totally different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Said this thread was looming a couple of weeks ago and this is where our season could start to fall apart fans booing at matches will soon turn to chanting for the manager out and then we will be left where we have always been in recent years after the revolving door spins. Gutted that our fans are so fickle. Being fickle and being a football fan are often mutually inclusive human traits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 People texting into Solent and saying Warnock for manager. Please get a grip. Our fans are pathetic sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 At the chairmans meal Nicola was asked how long he would give Nigel if things start to go badly... His response was simply 2013..when his contract runs out. I get the impression Nicola hasn't got a bad word to say about Nigel at the moment and rightly so IMO. 2nd in the league is acceptable right now I'd say.... As others as mentioned I think injuries have had a big impact since November and we're getting out the other side of that now. Even stronger with the new additions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Cortese was talking about "not only being promoted...but going up as champions" way back when the weather was still warm at the end of August/early September whenever it was. Adkins has been talking about "winning the division" [his words, not mine] for a while now. Football chairman and manager in optimistic beginning of season statement shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 At the chairmans meal Nicola was asked how long he would give Nigel if things start to go badly... His response was simply 2013..when his contract runs out. I get the impression Nicola hasn't got a bad word to say about Nigel at the moment and rightly so IMO. 2nd in the league is acceptable right now I'd say.... As others as mentioned I think injuries have had a big impact since November and we're getting out the other side of that now. Even stronger with the new additions.. I hope that's the case, and I'd have hoped that what he's done for us has gained the respect and trust of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Nope, it's been **** quite frankly. That doesn't mean the manager needs to go at any point in the near future though. There's a bigger picture to take into account in terms of what NA is building long term, and what he's done for us before this slump. No. Next question. So as pointed out, Cortese and Adkins who have been going on about winning the league, going up etc should be questIoned for our, quite frankly, relegation form over the last 10 games, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Nope, it's been **** quite frankly. That doesn't mean the manager needs to go at any point in the near future though. There's a bigger picture to take into account in terms of what NA is building long term, and what he's done for us before this slump. Exactly. He's showing every sign that he is going to lead a newly promoted team to finish no worse than 6th in the Championship. Not enough people are looking at the wider picture IMO. I'm hugely impressed with him since arriving and would have genuinely imagined every saints fan thought the same.. Until I saw some comments on this thread! In Adkins we trust.. Surely?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 At the chairmans meal Nicola was asked how long he would give Nigel if things start to go badly... His response was simply 2013..when his contract runs out. I get the impression Nicola hasn't got a bad word to say about Nigel at the moment and rightly so IMO. 2nd in the league is acceptable right now I'd say.... As others as mentioned I think injuries have had a big impact since November and we're getting out the other side of that now. Even stronger with the new additions.. As long as he continues to give credit to him in every interview I'm sure he'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Exactly. He's showing every sign that he is going to lead a newly promoted team to finish no worse than 6th in the Championship. Not enough people are looking at the wider picture IMO. I'm hugely impressed with him since arriving and would have genuinely imagined every saints fan thought the same.. Until I saw some comments on this thread! In Adkins we trust.. Surely?! Which would be a disappointment given the wonder chairmans vision and talk of winning the title, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harwellsaint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 this!!!!!!Not sure anyone has noticed, but we are in second efffing place, ffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry, but this has been a good season and we are just getting our first choice line up back! we also have Sharp, and we also battered cardiff in second half last week, jeez!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 People texting into Solent and saying Warnock for manager. Please get a grip. Our fans are pathetic sometimes. Really...!!!! Surely just the one odd nutjob though...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 So as pointed out, Cortese and Adkins who have been going on about winning the league, going up etc should be questIoned for our, quite frankly, relegation form over the last 10 games, yes? Constructively or destructively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I must have misheard all those interviews where Adkins said he would be happy to be "within touching distance" at the turn of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 So as pointed out, Cortese and Adkins who have been going on about winning the league, going up etc should be questIoned for our, quite frankly, relegation form over the last 10 games, yes? I don't think this game should be taken into account regarding our league form - because it's not, it's just a single replay. Disapointing all the same because it was an oppertunity tonight. What I've seen in the league over the last few weeks is a slow return to form, we've got a nice unbeaten run going (in the league..) and apart from the Leicester home game we have been getting better - IMO. Saturday is a whole new kettle of fish, and I do think it's important we win that one because the longer this results slump goes on the more restless the fan base will become, and the more un-confident the players will become (and nervous tbf). But Adkins is the man to guide us through it, I have no doubts or worries about that. This is his worst spell with us, no question, but I think he's earnt himself a bit of leeway with the fanbase - well I'd have hoped he would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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