hasper57saint Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 We've got Trevor Kettle as the referee, quite possibly the worst ref in the Football League. He's worse than Andy D'Urso or Peter Walton Just 'Googled' him. Record as follows Matches Reff'd- 30 Cards Red - 11 Yellow - 99 is he looking for his Century/ All the comments on 'Rate the Ref' are hyper critical. Looks like we could be having a 'mare' tomorrow if he's 'on-form' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 If this match was a chocolate bar, it would be Crunchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Just 'Googled' him. Record as follows Matches Reff'd- 30 Cards Red - 11 Yellow - 99 is he looking for his Century/ All the comments on 'Rate the Ref' are hyper critical. Looks like we could be having a 'mare' tomorrow if he's 'on-form' He was the ref for one of the worst reffing performances ever seen at St Mary's about 3-4 years ago - can't remember who we played but I'm pretty sure we won and all anyone talked about was how bad he was nevertheless. You really have to be a terrible ref for WINNING fans to be slagging off your performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Originally Posted by Pamplemousse We've got Trevor Kettle as the referee, quite possibly the worst ref in the Football League. He's worse than Andy D'Urso or Peter Walton We honestly seem to have a terrible ref each week. Who are the football league best refs? Surely they cannot all be ****e, as that would question more the impossibility of the job or the unyielding nature of us football fans. For me, I accept that refs will get decisions wrong, not see things and be inconsistent (they are human beings not robots after all). What drives me nuts though is seeing them influenced by players or the crowd. What I would call a Championship referee and he's been to St Marys several times now. Overall I seem to remember doing well out of him so no complaints in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 I remember him giving a penalty to Brentford last season when we won 3-0, despite it being about 5 yards outside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 We first saw Kettle in our first game down in 05 against Wolves. Sent Claus off. I recall thinking how bad he was compared to the prem refs we were used to. I ssuppose they all seem sh ite these days. I agree with Up an Away, that even though he is pants, we have done OK. QPR away play-off season we won 2-0 and they whinged. Watford, under the Dutch dorks and he gave us 2 pens. Missed by McGoaldrought and PWFG. Brentford away, last April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 I remember him giving a penalty to Brentford last season when we won 3-0, despite it being about 5 yards outside the box. Ah. Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 I remember him giving a penalty to Brentford last season when we won 3-0, despite it being about 5 yards outside the box. Well perhaps not quite 5 yards, looked at it on the highlights, there's a lot of contact between Frazer and the Bees player,some of it in the box, some of it outside,really difficult to say which one brought him to ground in the end, suspect it's Frazer taking his trailing foot though which might have been an inch inside or a couple outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Well perhaps not quite 5 yards, looked at it on the highlights, there's a lot of contact between Frazer and the Bees player,some of it in the box, some of it outside,really difficult to say which one brought him to ground in the end, suspect it's Frazer taking his trailing foot though which might have been an inch inside or a couple outside. I suppose if they scored it, then it wouldn't of been a goal anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 I suppose if they scored it, then it wouldn't of been a goal anyway? Put it this way, it wouldn't persuade me into thinking that the player who scored it and had 1 more goal on his counter was a better striker than one with the same number less this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Put it this way, it wouldn't persuade me into thinking that the player who scored it and had 1 more goal on his counter was a better striker than one with the same number less this one. Watching the same players performances week in and week out does that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 I'm sorry but my nan should be infront of Barnard from what i've seen of him this season. I don't think i've seen him control a ball and keep it within 5 yards of himself yet and can probabbly count his completed passed on 2 hands. You do realise I meant Tadanari Lee?! For me it's Lambert, Sharp, Guly, Lee, Connolly, Barnard, desperation. Even have De Ridder in before last couple, although prefer him on the wing. I expect next season Connolly and Barnard will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthemarch Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 it makes me laugh the hopes people are pinning on Lee and already elevating him above Connelly, a proven goal scorer at all levels. Hopefully Lee will turn out to be good - but the truth is he is an unknown who no one can claim to know much about. So far he has looked very lightweight. Yes he is something knew, and exciting but I doubt we will see the best of him till next season at the earliest. Lambert and Sharp stand apart from all our other strikers. Guly and Connelly are then both proven. Anything could happen with Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Yes, but Lee looks quick, enthusiast and with movement, as well as being fairly young. Connolly started the season well, and although seems to be a lot fitter in terms of less injuries, has been totally anonymous as well as pretty wasteful in quite a few games recently. That's why i'd put Lee above him now. I understand he's unproven, but he's showing good signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Might do Connolly some good to have a rest anyway. I was a bit critical of signing Lee, but he looks sharp and makes terrific runs. Definitely worth a spot on the bench. Hopefully the rest of the team are becoming more familiar with his game. We need Martin on the bench as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Just 'Googled' him. Record as follows Matches Reff'd- 30 Cards Red - 11 Yellow - 99 is he looking for his Century/ All the comments on 'Rate the Ref' are hyper critical. Looks like we could be having a 'mare' tomorrow if he's 'on-form' Have to pray he plays a homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 It really is a hard task for Nige to pick his 16 at the moment. Right wing: Punch, Guly, de Ridder, Chaplow Left wing: Lallana, Chaplow Centre mid: Hammond, Cork, Morgan, Reeves Up front: Lambert, Sharp, Guly, Lee, Connolly Haven't even mentioned Falque or Barnard. Personally, I would pick this team: ------------------------KD------------------- Frazer--------Fonte-------Martin/Jos----------Fox Puncheon-----Morgan------Reeves--------Lallana ------------Lambert-------Sharp------------ Subs: Bart, Martin/Jos, Chaplow, Lee, de Ridder So, no: Guly, Hammond, Cork, Connolly, Barnard, Falque, Holmes, Harding... Harsh on Guly as he's been good this season but he's not really an "impact" type of player. If we need a replacement striker, Lee gives us a different sort of threat. Likewise if we need a replacement right winger then de Ridder offers a different sort of threat to Puncheon/Lallana, whereas Guly is quite similar. Mind you, de Ridder seems to be struggling a bit with injuries so that might give Guly the advantage this weekend. Cork was really good against Forest but since then has not played well IMO. I've been impressed with Reeves. He looks to be potentially a more complete player than any of our usual CMs. Think he deserves a start in a home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Anyone who thinks Guly won't or shouldnt feature on the bench at least has lost the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 School boy error by Trousers there. OK, swap De Ridder for Puncheon then flip a coin as to whether Puncheon or Chaplow starts. Probably Puncheon now I come to think of it. Phew, got away with that one... Chappers isn't match fit yet so will not start as that tends to be the high intensity part of a match at SMS when top sides come at us straight out of the blocks. Since De Ridder is knackered and Guly never gets his anti-freeze warm in this climate it's got to be Puncheon to start and Chappers on at 65min. Lee for Sharp or Sharp for Lee. I think I'd start with Lee after his display on Tuesday and bring Sharp on later. Surprised that you think Hoover will start as it seems doubtful to me that he'll be ready. Maybe Jaidi should get a start? For me; Davis, Butterfield-Jaidi-Fonte-Fox, Puncheon-Schneiderlin-Cork-Lallana, Lee-Lambert subs; GK-Richardson-Chaplow-Hammond-Sharp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Chappers isn't match fit yet so will not start as that tends to be the high intensity part of a match at SMS when top sides come at us straight out of the blocks. Since De Ridder is knackered and Guly never gets his anti-freeze warm in this climate it's got to be Puncheon to start and Chappers on at 65min. Lee for Sharp or Sharp for Lee. I think I'd start with Lee after his display on Tuesday and bring Sharp on later. Surprised that you think Hoover will start as it seems doubtful to me that he'll be ready. Maybe Jaidi should get a start? For me; Davis, Butterfield-Jaidi-Fonte-Fox, Puncheon-Schneiderlin-Cork-Lallana, Lee-Lambert subs; GK-Richardson-Chaplow-Hammond-Sharp Butterfield and Seaborne aren't fit.Didn't Fox say Cork had some sort of hamstring concerns as well, certainly NA said the same sort of thing on Tuesday. I've got a feeling that Reeves will play some part in this one,whether that will be counter-productive at this level I just couldn't say. Frankly I have no idea what tomorrow's team will be because Nige likes to tinker and be innovative.Who's up front and who isn't is a bit hard to guess, you'd think Rickie and Billy but whether that will be the actual pair.???????, All I know is that this is a fulcrum game, win and we'll be back on track,draw...depends on the others...lose, well I'll be booking my days off for the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Chappers isn't match fit yet so will not start as that tends to be the high intensity part of a match at SMS when top sides come at us straight out of the blocks. Since De Ridder is knackered and Guly never gets his anti-freeze warm in this climate it's got to be Puncheon to start and Chappers on at 65min. Lee for Sharp or Sharp for Lee. I think I'd start with Lee after his display on Tuesday and bring Sharp on later. Surprised that you think Hoover will start as it seems doubtful to me that he'll be ready. Maybe Jaidi should get a start? For me; Davis, Butterfield-Jaidi-Fonte-Fox, Puncheon-Schneiderlin-Cork-Lallana, Lee-Lambert subs; GK-Richardson-Chaplow-Hammond-Sharp Butterfield is injured. Sharp should play. Arsenal are playing Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Butterfield is injured. Sharp should play. Arsenal are playing Sunderland. Exactly. Sharp has to start. It will give the crowd a huge lift and I really haven't been impressed by Lee with what I've seen of him so far (not to say he won't come good but doesn't look ready to step straight in for a crucial game). Also, anyone who has put Reeves in ahead of Cork or Hammond needs there head examining. Too lightweight for Champ football at the moment from what I've seen. He shows some nice touches but never has any real impact on a game (disallowed goal aside). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 If I was Howe I'd be telling my players to press us high up the pitch and not let our midfield play. If I was Adkins I'd be trying to work out how to play when this inevitably happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 If Connelly starts tomorrow i will poo on my seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 If Connelly starts tomorrow i will poo on my seat. What would you do if Connolly played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 We first saw Kettle in our first game down in 05 against Wolves. Sent Claus off. I recall thinking how bad he was compared to the prem refs we were used to. I ssuppose they all seem sh ite these days. I agree with Up an Away, that even though he is pants, we have done OK. QPR away play-off season we won 2-0 and they whinged. Watford, under the Dutch dorks and he gave us 2 pens. Missed by McGoaldrought and PWFG. Brentford away, last April. I believe his full record against us is :- 2010/11 brentford (a) Won 3-0 2009/10 TORQUAY (H) JPT 2-2 won on pens 2008/09 WATFORD (H) lost 0-3 2006/07 YEOVIL (H) LC Won 5-2; qpr (a) Won 2-0; COLCHESTER (H) lost 1-2 2005/06 WOLVES (H) drew 0-0 4w - 1d - 2l (if you count the JPT as a win ) and burnley :- 2010/11 norwich (a) drew 2-2; IPSWICH (H) lost 1-2 2008/09 donny (a) lost 2-1 2007/08 PALACE (H) drew 1-1 2006/07 sunderland (a) lost 3-2 2005/06 PLYMOUTH (H) won 1-0 2004/05 cardiff (a) lost 2-0 1w - 2d - 4l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 What would you do if Connolly played? If it isn't working and we are desperate, then I don't have a problem with him being thrown on. But lets be honest, he has been woeful and didn't deserve his place at Brum, yet he got it and was... sh*t. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 If it isn't working and we are desperate, then I don't have a problem with him being thrown on. But lets be honest, he has been woeful and didn't deserve his place at Brum, yet he got it and was... sh*t. Again. The point he was making is that you spelt his name wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 The point he was making is that you spelt his name wrong. Haha. Diddums. Long Day. Not as bad as Atkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Exactly. Sharp has to start. It will give the crowd a huge lift and I really haven't been impressed by Lee with what I've seen of him so far (not to say he won't come good but doesn't look ready to step straight in for a crucial game). Also, anyone who has put Reeves in ahead of Cork or Hammond needs there head examining. Too lightweight for Champ football at the moment from what I've seen. He shows some nice touches but never has any real impact on a game (disallowed goal aside). Sharp has to start - Agree with you. Lee has done OK and shown some good touches - Disagree with you. Reeves =Played well against that Championship Team Millwall when he came on (and scored) - Might not be ready to start but would have him on the bench ready to come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 Davis; Richardson (if Butterfield injured)-Fonte-Martin-Fox; Puncheon-Schneiderlin-Hammond-Lallana; Sharp-Lambert subs; Bart-Harding-Chaplow-Cork-Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 God I hope that we win... That is all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 If Connelly starts tomorrow i will poo on my seat. Really wonder about some people who post on here. Still half-term next week, hopefully your child-minder will ensure that you don't have any accidents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergoose Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 We'll be fine - we've got Billy Sharp and Rickie Lambert!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 10 February, 2012 Share Posted 10 February, 2012 I usually park in the small outside car park next to the Charlotte Place NCP....Compton Walk: http://en.parkopedia.co.uk/parking/carpark/compton_walk/so15/southampton/ Hey thanks. Really appreciate your reply. Sorry not to get back sooner I've been offline for a couple of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Really wonder about some people who post on here. Still half-term next week, hopefully your child-minder will ensure that you don't have any accidents... Well you better start wondering about a few tens on thousands then because if Connelly plays we are in very deep do da...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Rickie Lambert and Billy Sharp will score more league goals than Rodriguez and Austin,between now and the rest of the season.If the defence is up to scratch,then we may still finish top two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVR_Fan Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Does anyone know how many tickets, have been sold for this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 I can't chuffing wait for a return to winning ways... here's hoping it's tomorrow! I maybe slightly hungover, as usual, but i will be listening nonetheless. (why do we insist on playing at 7am on a saturday morning BTW?) This ale is going down very nicely as I troll up a storm on Poopey Online. COYRS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 I can't chuffing wait for a return to winning ways... here's hoping it's tomorrow! I maybe slightly hungover, as usual, but i will be listening nonetheless. (why do we insist on playing at 7am on a saturday morning BTW?) This ale is going down very nicely as I troll up a storm on Poopey Online. COYRS!!!! Ah that well known Bangkok based skate - Bang Krupt. Nice one Prob miss 1st half of match thread tonight Sash shirt wearing day for Sky Sports @ golf then beers. Tough job today for me - I'm manning the ack ack guns to shoot down any more dodgy balloons. Tough game, REALLY need a win. Anything but a win will plunge view of our football hopes into an Alpine-esque view. I'll certainly start to get worried. Will Sharp & Lambert have had time to understand each other up front? If they have then could be fun. If they are still getting to know each other..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Falque was a terrible mistake - he'll be back in Spurs reserves before the end of the season just to get some game times as I don't think he will get anymore here. Leicester, Cardiff, Brum and West Ham all have squads that our much better than ours on paper. Player for player certainly - it was the way we were playing at the start of the season that was making the difference. Now we seem to have lost our way - and the individual quality of the players in their squads is now making a real difference. Will be interesting to see how Falque turns out! He has yet to have a decent run. However I do question some of the transfers made by Adkins, who seems to coach very well and run a good ship (or bus ) but his transfer selections do sometimes leave a bit to desire. I cite the likes of Stephens, N'Guesson, Forte etc. none of whom improved the team or established a real presence. Hoivelled, Cork and Guly have been better although Cork seems to be fading, Guly runs hot and cold and Hoivelled was actually our third or fourth choice! The likes of Lambert, Harding, Puncheon, Fonte, Hammond all have made better impressions even though they were signed for League 1 Let us hope Sharp and Falgue can make their mark on the team for the crucial run in and that we we find the midfield creativity and defensive solidity we seem to be currently lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Will be interesting to see how Falque turns out! He has yet to have a decent run. However I do question some of the transfers made by Adkins, who seems to coach very well and run a good ship (or bus ) but his transfer selections do sometimes leave a bit to desire. I cite the likes of Stephens, N'Guesson, Forte etc. none of whom improved the team or established a real presence. Hoivelled, Cork and Guly have been better although Cork seems to be fading, Guly runs hot and cold and Hoivelled was actually our third or fourth choice! The likes of Lambert, Harding, Puncheon, Fonte, Hammond all have made better impressions even though they were signed for League 1 Let us hope Sharp and Falgue can make their mark on the team for the crucial run in and that we we find the midfield creativity and defensive solidity we seem to be currently lacking. Quick run, before Matt Le God pulls you up on all of your errors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Quick run, before Matt Le God pulls you up on all of your errors! Fortunately my errors do not effect team performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversaint Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Skysportsnews reporting Jos is still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Rickie Lambert and Billy Sharp will score more league goals than Rodriguez and Austin,between now and the rest of the season.If the defence is up to scratch,then we may still finish top two. That's a good point. Given that it's defences that win leagues I'm a bit surprised we haven't done more to bolster the CBs, we seem to have ended up with a Keegan/Nichol approach of scoring one more than they do - although I know that's not really Nige's philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 West Ham game at Pboro is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 13 points out of the last 12 league games! this is poor form however you look at it! 12 games is not a wobble it is over 25% of the season, and is therfore more of a slump That is a full 9 behind the average of 2 a game usually needed for almost certain promotion! We must get back to winning ways now We have now used up all the fat we stored for the winter through our excellent season start, which has masked the recent decline. We are hungry now and need to get out and hunt afresh whilst we still can before starvation sets in leading to further decline. Bring on Burnley and come on you Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2012 West Ham game at Pboro is off. Hmmm, not sure I like that. They will be rested for our game with them on Tuesday now. That said, we could go into the game riding high on the back of a 4-0 win against Burnley...you heard it here first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Skysportsnews reporting Jos is still out. Jos trained on thursday. I expect him to play . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 11 February, 2012 Share Posted 11 February, 2012 Skysportsnews reporting Jos is still out. They tend to just go on what the club tells them so wouldn't read to much into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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