Fitzhugh Fella Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 How was Lee? (apart from those chances he missed) Bit of a rhetorical question there I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I'm not too despondent over being knocked out of the cup to be honest, I was more concerned over extra time ahead of Saturday, and a backlog of fixtures had we progressed (as I thought we'd probably rise to the occasion and beat Bolton). Am p!ssed off and concerned over the manner of defeat, having got the initiative after 80 minutes to concede twice after that is gallling. Yet again we seem to have possession but create little with it is my take on recent form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Just got back - our full backs were both terrible tonight, De Ridder has no end product and Tandanari Lee is way out of his depth in Championship football, we have no width, lack a real centre forward, p*ss around with the football too much and have no one to long ball it to when under pressure - or when the short ball is not on. We may pass the ball well at times - but we have no variety in our play - we are very predictable - we'd rather pass it sideways than forward! Maybe a really negative view but we really lacked drive, energy and creativity tonight! Saying that Lallana goal was pure class - but it was all about the individual - not the team. It was also the first timex I've seen Ben Reeves play and he looked a class above. Great first touch, composed on the ball and by far our most incisive passer of the ball tonight. He actually played the ball forward and looked for the strikers with the through ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Never heard NA so hacked off. Chin up Nigel, you learn more from a defeat ! (He confirmed Reeves goal was onside) Their third goal was ******* off-side too. And the ***** of lino couldn't keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Had the linesman not stuck is flag up, then we win 3-1. Enough said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Bit of a rhetorical question there I would have thought. Because Lallana, Lambert, Messi, Rooney etc all have 100% strike rates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Anyone who thinks "Lets concentrate on the league, glad were out etc etc" you are making excuses my friends for a side that is obviously in decline for whatever reason. I did not go tonight but I have seen enough to realise that we are now not the team we were a couple of months ago. Yes we have had injuries/suspensions but we surely have a squad strong enough to cope with this....................obviously not!. I could easily dismiss the cup defeats if our league form was still up there but at this moment it is not. Hopefully NA can get this sorted but IMO I am p*ssed that we have not got further in the cup with the chance of a lucrative draw against a prem side because if you go by present form that may have been our last chance of getting anything out of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Bit of a rhetorical question there I would have thought. Lee won't be making more than the odd sub appearance after tonight - unless game time is written into his contract - or the one with the Japanese media. Japanese football must be down there with the Scottish Premier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Hopefully Gully (did'nt watch today but on the radio seems to waste/loose the ball so much)It is "lose" not "loose" - sigh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 http://audioboo.fm/boos/657878-nigel-adkins-speaks-to-solentsport-after-saints-exit-the-fa-cup-to-millwall NA's interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Warrior Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 What a waste of money, I want my £18-00 back. Guly has the ball control of a 2 year old and cant play in the cold. Atkins has lost the plot tactically and if we dont play our best 11 from start then whats the point in entering the fa cup. The club wasted the fans time and money, should have been free or £5. Saints got a lesson in how to play football by a team fighting for relegation!! If it wasnt for Bart it would have been 2-6. What a dissapointment and let down, yet another chance of a final and playing in Europe gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Bit of a rhetorical question there I would have thought. To be honest I was just interested in his general play, link up, movement, physicality etc - missed chances don't always tell the whole story, will be interesting to hear what his all round game was like - because if it's decent, the goals will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 It's easy to come on here and slag off the manager and criticise the players but how many of us didn't bother to turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 http://audioboo.fm/boos/657878-nigel-adkins-speaks-to-solentsport-after-saints-exit-the-fa-cup-to-millwall NA's interview Nice one mate . Thanks for posting/uploading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giamlarrahan Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I was in line with the third goal and he looked way offside. It seemed like the team weren't bothered apart from a 5 minute spell after we equalised. Guly was poor and kept bundling into everyone he tackled, Reeves looked good and had some nice touches, Harding and Richardson were beaten too easily and Lee looked lively and committed to the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Great result. Focus on the league. Rubbish. Every Saints fan I know would rather win the FA Cup than get promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Listening to the interview, although the said he wouldn't name names, he made it pretty clear he was not impressed with Guly, Martin and Fonte. Said he thought Reeves and Lee did well and De Ridder was "a fresh of breath air," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 @joshooiveld20: Before we all start spuwing our dissapointments (understandable of course) let's not forget all the noses have to face the same direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Where to start? The positives - Reeves and Lee looked good. Chappers is back (but not match fit). Lallana's goal was classy. Adkins making the change to diamond (once again) changed the game in our favour. Bart made some good stops that kept us in the game. The negatives? Here we go... a. The Lino gave offside for Reeves goal when it should have stood - Reeves was not offside. b. The Ref allowed them to take their freekick at the death while the ball was moving and a good 10 yards away from where it should have been taken - he actually had his back to ball and I didn't hear him blow his whistle to resume play. c. Guly was an absolute liability in the first 20 minutes and didn't really get much better before he was subbed. d. Bart was a disaster waiting to happen in terms of his distribution - this part of his game really is rubbish. e. We missed a few absolute sitters - worrying. f. We looked very one dimensional (once again), although in the last 10 minutes we dominated play but couldn't put the game to bed. g. there was too much messing about with the ball in defence such that we got caught napping on quite a few occassions which in turn knocks the rythym and tempo out of the game. h. IMO there is not one full-back - left or right - in the club that is capable of playing at Prem level. Fox, Harding, Richardson are all too inconsistent and get completely stripped by a fast-ish winger. None of them can deliver a decent cross from the byline and their corner taking ability leaves a fair bit to be desired too. Frankly I couldn't give a monkeys toss about exiting the FA Cup. However, I am getting a little concerned that the bubble has burst and we've lost the magic that the team seemed to possess in the early part of the season. And I think Adkins is quietly concerned too. Need a good home win Saturday - the pressure is now on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Rubbish. Every Saints fan I know would rather win the FA Cup than get promotion. I predict 17 bites on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 @joshooiveld20: We take the positives out of it @Rchap04 back @stief87 on fire again and @adlallana1 scoring. #focusontheleagueonlyfromnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Listening to the interview, although the said he wouldn't name names, he made it pretty clear he was not impressed with Guly, Martin and Fonte. Said he thought Reeves and Lee did well and De Ridder was "a fresh of breath air," I read that from his comments too, definitely not happy with a few experienced players. Guly didn't do himself any favours as he's struggling to get back in the team now IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressingon Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Just got back and thawing out. First half we bypassed our midfield completely. just hoofed it up for Lee & De Ridder to chase.When Millwall had it they just played through us leaving AL. DH and RC (excused) chasing shadows. NA changed the shape and we had a lot more possession without creating much, yet again crossing from full backs very poor. At 2-1 thought we could shut up shop but brought on Barnard and looked like we went 4-2-4 ! Unfortunately Martin very poor on two of the goals although none of the back four came away with much credit. My MOTM was Bart which says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 It's easy to come on here and slag off the manager and criticise the players but how many of us didn't bother to turn up. Spot on. Yes our form isn't great, but those of you who actually went to the Cardiff game will take a lot from that second half and you cannot use the Birmingham game at all. We have two of the best strikers in the league now, along with Chaplow coming back which is fantastic. Can see Guly slipping down the pecking order relatively quickly but I was very impressed with Ben Reeves tonight when he came on, he was terrific. Morgan and Corky are our first choice CM's for me, having watched Hammond start today. Would have taken that 3-2 loss after they equalised, as if the likes of Lallana & Lambert had to play another 30mins, it could have affected our game against Burnley massively. Oh and to add, Lallana was brilliant tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 http://audioboo.fm/boos/657878-nigel-adkins-speaks-to-solentsport-after-saints-exit-the-fa-cup-to-millwall NA's interview Adkins: "Reeves was a fresh of breath air" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 oh dear what a dissappointment. The attendance, the atmosphere, the first 30 minutes, the defending, the crossing, barts kicking, the finishing, the two linos, the West Ham song, the missed opportunity...oh well maybe I need to look at the positives (seeing as for once Adkins spared us his false positivity and told us how he rally felt) and that was certainly seeing Chaplow back (although miles from his best), Reeves ability and, er, **** I'm all out. Bart 4 two decent saves, both I expected him to make, but still good, handling OK, but his kicking was absolutely woeful. He sliced nearly all, failed to get height or distance and put us in trouble several times. He actually got away with it on several other occasions. I thought the Northam were very patient with him. I struggled to not moan at him. I've never been impressed and don't want to see him as our second choice keeper next season unless he learns how to kick again, Richardson 6 ball watched a couple of times and nearly exposed, but to be fair he had little cover in front of him. He improved but yet again his crosses we poor. Too long of too short. Crap really. Compare that with Millwall who had two of three chances and every cross was dangerous. Fonte 7 decent display for me Martin 5 got done a couples of times badly by their striker Harding 6 got beaten badly for their second. Crossing poor. Hammond 9 thought he had a very good game. Worked tremendously hard and kept the ball well. Looked up for it. Chaplow 5 miles off the pace. Left us massively exposed in the middle leading to the first goal. Improved, but work rate was not high enough. Yes he's just coming back, and its great, but the mark is for how he played not how he did play before injury de Ridder 7 not bad at all, busy, lots of effort and movement, good control etc. but where is that end product we need? Seriously need him to be scoring the odd goal like Feeney's third - coming inside and curling one into the top corner. Never even tries it. The one shot he had was horrible. Lallana 8 ran the game especially in the second half Chung 6 lots of runs, sadly him and de Ridder seemed to make the same ones, but until Reeves came on none were really found. Poor effort in the second half when dribbling through, and a very poor miss when it looked easier to score. I'm not all that impressed. He should have taken one of those chances Guly 6 not as bad a some fans will make out. Better in midfield than up front, but we improved with Lambert Reeves 8 Looked extremely good, one under hit pass, but some sublime through balls too. Impressive. Lambert 7 very deep, took his goal well Barnard not on long enough to get a mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Very very cold. Looking at the positives, Reeves was amazing, some of his passes were fantastic. Looking forward to seeing him come on leaps and bounds with us. Bart had a brilliant game too - some top drawer saves and not a lot he could do for their three goals. Kelvin would have not done a better job today. I'll repeat what I always harp on at, no idea why Guly is in the side. Yes yes he has a good number of goals in the side but if we had someone who 'wanted it' and didn't step out of 50/50 balls then maybe they'd have scored more for us. Glad Nigel sub'd him before he was sent off. Shouldn't have been on the pitch in the first place though. Harding I thought had a decent game, Fonte looked less confident than usual. Adkins was furious through most of the game. I thought at the start of the 2nd half we'd reverted to hoof ball (and actually looked a better side for it than the 1st half!) Finally, I like FA Cup games, gives you a chance to sit in seats you don't usually sit in when your ST isn't available. Here's a view from mine today - excellent apart from the result (and cold!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sad saints fan Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I think the people knocking Lee need to watch him a bit closer. He made some very good runs of off the ball but was not spotted by the player in possession,when we get into the final third he is always looking for the run in behind the defenders ,if we can hit him early enough,before he has to check back,I think he will become a real asset.Possibly will need a couple of months to fully acclimatize but I can see him being a very useful impact player for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 What a waste of money, I want my £18-00 back. Guly has the ball control of a 2 year old and cant play in the cold. Atkins has lost the plot tactically and if we dont play our best 11 from start then whats the point in entering the fa cup. The club wasted the fans time and money, should have been free or £5. Saints got a lesson in how to play football by a team fighting for relegation!! If it wasnt for Bart it would have been 2-6. What a dissapointment and let down, yet another chance of a final and playing in Europe gone.I was with you for the first sentence - then you turned into a hysterical ninny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 What a waste of money, I want my £18-00 back. Guly has the ball control of a 2 year old and cant play in the cold. Atkins has lost the plot tactically and if we dont play our best 11 from start then whats the point in entering the fa cup. The club wasted the fans time and money, should have been free or £5. Saints got a lesson in how to play football by a team fighting for relegation!! If it wasnt for Bart it would have been 2-6. What a dissapointment and let down, yet another chance of a final and playing in Europe gone. You really expected us to field our strongest team today when you forked out £18 for the ticket? You honestly have no idea which way the FA Cup has been heading for the last 5-10 years? Or are you just disappointed with the defeat and trying to pin blame on someone? That's fair enough, I'm pretty annoyed with the defeat myself - but quite happy with the team that NA fielded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressingon Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Sky just gave attendance as 8,493 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Yep, 3rd goal was a horrible decision. I was in Block 4 and it looked yards offside. Thought we were very comfortable at 2-1. I think Lambert was given offside for the disallowed goal but he didn't touch the ball, another bad decision. Rubbish crowd. Found it amusing that the 200 Millwall were singing "you're support is ****ing ****", but they were right. Bart - 8 - Some quality saves. Dodgy kicking at time but the pitch was pretty bad. Richardson - 6 - Not his best game Martin - 6 - Spoiled his performance by getting turned far too easily for the second goal. Fonte - 7 - Steady. Harding - 4 - Dire. Got turned too often. Gave the ball away at will. Ignored obvious passes. He did block a cross at one point though which was nice of him. De Ridder - 8 - Played well. Looked dangerous cutting inside. Should have scored when he cut into the box but tried to put it on a plate for Lee and passed it behind him. Hammond - 7 - Solid. Too slow in possession for me though. Chaplow - 6 - Rusty, but it's his first game back after a long lay off. Lallana - 8 - Our best player. Guly - 5 - Didn't play well, never really seemed in the game. Had one great header that was well saved. Lee - 7 - Good movement. Didn't link well with Guly but not sure how much of that was his fault. Some good runs with the ball one of which he should have scored from. Lambert - 6 - Gave us a focal point but was guilty of lazily giving the ball away on the left touchline for their second goal. Reeves - 8 - Bright, accurate passes, comfortable on the ball. Impressed. Barnard - 5 - Ineffectual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 A disappointing way to a lose a game but I'm not overly fussed about that. The performance matter far more. Tonight was about players forcing themselves into the thoughts of Adkins for Saturday. It sounded like very few grasped that opportunity and that is what concerns me. The squad is now big enough to absorb injuries and loss of form, but only if the players on standby appear up for it and determined. Tonight that was not the case. The team for Saturday pretty much picks itself now, and Adkins should be having far more of a problem when picking his team with our squad size. I still have every faith in Adkins and the squad but right now they need to pull together and show a bit more determination and application because we have a great opportunity to go up this season and it will slip away unless they all up it a little. If a team presses you high up the pitch then show the quality individually with your skill and movement to make them think twice. If a team sits deep then show the quality you have to probe and break them down. We have the players I've no doubt about that, but they need to start performing as individuals and the system Adkins sends them out in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Very very cold. Looking at the positives, Reeves was amazing, some of his passes were fantastic. Looking forward to seeing him come on leaps and bounds with us. Bart had a brilliant game too - some top drawer saves and not a lot he could do for their three goals. Kelvin would have not done a better job today. I'll repeat what I always harp on at, no idea why Guly is in the side. Yes yes he has a good number of goals in the side but if we had someone who 'wanted it' and didn't step out of 50/50 balls then maybe they'd have scored more for us. Glad Nigel sub'd him before he was sent off. Shouldn't have been on the pitch in the first place though. Harding I thought had a decent game, Fonte looked less confident than usual. Adkins was furious through most of the game. I thought at the start of the 2nd half we'd reverted to hoof ball (and actually looked a better side for it than the 1st half!) Finally, I like FA Cup games, gives you a chance to sit in seats you don't usually sit in when your ST isn't available. Here's a view from mine today - excellent apart from the result (and cold!) Oi that's my seat! No wonder I couldn't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Atkins Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Where to start? The positives - Reeves and Lee looked good. Chappers is back (but not match fit). Lallana's goal was classy. Adkins making the change to diamond (once again) changed the game in our favour. Bart made some good stops that kept us in the game. The negatives? Here we go... a. The Lino gave offside for Reeves goal when it should have stood - Reeves was not offside. b. The Ref allowed them to take their freekick at the death while the ball was moving and a good 10 yards away from where it should have been taken - he actually had his back to ball and I didn't hear him blow his whistle to resume play. c. Guly was an absolute liability in the first 20 minutes and didn't really get much better before he was subbed. d. Bart was a disaster waiting to happen in terms of his distribution - this part of his game really is rubbish. e. We missed a few absolute sitters - worrying. f. We looked very one dimensional (once again), although in the last 10 minutes we dominated play but couldn't put the game to bed. g. there was too much messing about with the ball in defence such that we got caught napping on quite a few occassions which in turn knocks the rythym and tempo out of the game. h. IMO there is not one full-back - left or right - in the club that is capable of playing at Prem level. Fox, Harding, Richardson are all too inconsistent and get completely stripped by a fast-ish winger. None of them can deliver a decent cross from the byline and their corner taking ability leaves a fair bit to be desired too. Frankly I couldn't give a monkeys toss about exiting the FA Cup. However, I am getting a little concerned that the bubble has burst and we've lost the magic that the team seemed to possess in the early part of the season. And I think Adkins is quietly concerned too. Need a good home win Saturday - the pressure is now on!So you seriously do not thing that Fox and Richardson can deliver a decent cross - despite us having scored plenty of goals from Fox and Richardson crosses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 How was Lee? (apart from those chances he missed) Just like when he came on in last home game he made some great runs into space (in his interview he said he focuses heavily on his off the ball skill) but the midfield rarely read his runs so it was wasted. He got himself into good positions in front of goal but I couldn't help but feel the pressure got to him when doing the sticking it in the net bit.. That said when he settles in I think he'll be class and rebel's being a bit harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I think the people knocking Lee need to watch him a bit closer. He made some very good runs of off the ball but was not spotted by the player in possession,when we get into the final third he is always looking for the run in behind the defenders ,if we can hit him early enough,before he has to check back,I think he will become a real asset.Possibly will need a couple of months to fully acclimatize but I can see him being a very useful impact player for the rest of the season. Missed this post before replying. Glad I wasn't the only one who saw it like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 This is getting worrying - we're playing badly and can't buy a win whilst Brum are going like a freight train. Well, we aren't firing on all cylinders, but Brum only managed a late winner tonight against you-know-who.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 This is getting worrying - we're playing badly and can't buy a win whilst Brum are going like a freight train. People will say its only the cup but this will damage confidence. For god sake Adkins sort it out and quickly. We are not playing badly, and Brum failed to beat us at home. Get a grip fer chrissakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Am pretty Guuted that Saints are out of the FA Cup after coming inches away from going through to be going out right at the death to Millwall and fair play to them as a Saints fan as it was a Great goal for the winner and they dug deep and held on and all Saints can do now is to concentrate on the league starting off with Burnley on Saturday and getting back to winning ways but we'l see!!! Like most of you on here whether we Win, Lose or Draw I am still sticking by Saints and especially Adkins as all teams go through a "Blip" phase as Saints are doing now and we just need the confidence back and to score goals and win matches so we can get out of this league and back in the Premiership Where We Belong!!! Thanks! COYR !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap in the Chapel Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Harsh to lose it in that way, especially after a much improved second half performance. We were dreadful for the first half hour and Millwall totally deserved their lead - Adam's goal was against the run of play and we were lucky to go in at 1-1. The formation change at the start of the second half bamboozled Millwall and we looked in control. Once we got to 2-1 I thought we'd see it out comfortably if we could keep it tight for six or seven minutes and try and hit them on the break as they pushed men forward. Instead, we conceded straight away after Harding was caught out of position and it was back to square one. Millwall's third should not have stood, as the ref allowed them to take a free-kick when the ball was moving, having stopped Bart from doing the same thing from a goal kick a minute earlier! More negatives than positives though, which is worrying. Bart's distribution was awful tonight, Harding looks a shadow of what he is capable of, Guly was obviously trying to get himself taken off by conceding a series of silly fouls when on a booking, Chaplow was way off the pace and is not going to be fully ready for several games, we conceded three poor goals and no-one played well enough consistently throughout the 90 minutes to be man of the match. Nigel has got to lift them for Saturday as our luck with results is going to run out soon. The only saving grace is that we've got six or seven players to come in to make us full strength - we were fielding our second string, in the main. Concentrate on the league then, and concentrate hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 We are not playing badly, and Brum failed to beat us at home. Get a grip fer chrissakes... Agreed, I don't think we're playing badly as a team - but individually we've got a few iffy performers at the moment who are letting the side down. We're much better than we were a few weeks back, when our performances were labored and lacklustre - but we now have a zip and a bit of dynamic play about us, so I don't think it's too long before the results come. If we were playing awful and not creating chances then I'd be worried for the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 So you seriously do not thing that Fox and Richardson can deliver a decent cross - despite us having scored plenty of goals from Fox and Richardson crosses? Please read what I said. And then tell me how goals have come from them getting to the byline? I will admit that Harding does try to cross-over with Lallana - they seem to work better together - however Harding does not offer the same level of bite in defence that Fox does. Richardson was surprisingly poor tonight I thought. But anyway, do YOU seriously think that any of our full-backs are good enough for the Prem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Please read what I said. And then tell me how goals have come from them getting to the byline? I will admit that Harding does try to cross-over with Lallana - they seem to work better together - however Harding does not offer the same level of bite in defence that Fox does. Richardson was surprisingly poor tonight I thought. But anyway, do YOU seriously think that any of our full-backs are good enough for the Prem? I think both could do a job if I'm honest. I'm sure you wouldn't have expected Mark Tinerney and Russell Martin to be performing at Full back for Norwich this season, they were L1 right backs 18 months ago. We've scored about 7 or 8 goals from a result of Richardsons crossing, his crosses to the back post for Lambert to steam in were a trademark of our first half of the season. It didnt wlays lead to a goal....but we won penalties from it, a Lambo knock down was put in by someone else etc - so I'd say Richardson has put in a fair few match winning deliveries this year, which is why it's frustrating to see the standard drop now - as we all know what he's capable of. But then I guess you look at it from the opposition side, and what would you say? ''Richardson has a great delivery, alot of their goals have come from that flank. I want you to get tight to him, don't give him the yard to cross and make sure you block that cross as your life depends on it'' - I think that's what we're seeing more and more, teams are coming up with successful game plans to nulify our strengths. It's now up to us to add a bit of variety to our game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Please read what I said. And then tell me how goals have come from them getting to the byline? I will admit that Harding does try to cross-over with Lallana - they seem to work better together - however Harding does not offer the same level of bite in defence that Fox does. Richardson was surprisingly poor tonight I thought. But anyway, do YOU seriously think that any of our full-backs are good enough for the Prem?You could argue that many of the players may not be good enough for the prem. At this moment in time - who cares?. We are not playing football in the PL yet. I just care if they are good enough to get us out of this league (and I think they are). We also score a lot of goals from their crosses, so whether or not they are from the byline is irrelevant. It isn't the be all and end all of being a good fullback - wingers maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 I don't think it was really a weak side though. The only changes I can see for Saturday is harding, Bart, Chappers and Lee out. And those 4 players are still more than good enough. No jos for martin. Martin was poor tonight and jos is better imo, although martins done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 No jos for martin. Martin was poor tonight and jos is better imo, although martins done well. Depends if Jos is fit....prob 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Back home home now, with a meal in my belly and a nice cold one to sip from as I write this - much better! Overall I thought we were decent, apart from the first 25 minutes of the first half (where we were f*cking dire) and the first 30 minutes of the second half (where we were great). Too much hoofing in the first half, with no physical presence up front (especially when Guly switched to the tip of the diamond) and not closing down properly. Second half we were much better, knocked it around nicely and controlled the game, our passing was much better as well and the long ball was reserved for counter-attacks. Bart 7 - Made some very good saves and claimed a few corners and crosses under pressure, but his distribution was a bit nerve-wracking! Some more work on that in training, but overall a decent performance. Richardson 6 - Got down the flanks well and made some good interventions, but really needs to get his crossing sorted out - not a shade of what it was earlier in the season. Whether it's a lack of fitness, who knows? Harding 4 - Absolute horsesh!te in the first half, got turned inside-out and his passing was very sloppy, but second half he was better. Again, perhaps a lack of match fitness, but needs to improve if he wants the LB spot back. Fonte 6 - Good in the air, passing was good as well. Often it was left to him to launch the ball from the defence to the attack, which was more of a problem with the midfield but it's not his best role. Martin 5 - He was okay, nothing special really. Made some good tackles but also some sloppy passing and was exposed a few times due to poor positioning. He's been excellent the last few months, perhaps he needs a rest. De Ridder 8 - Thought he was excellent, zipped around and made some great runs with the ball. Perhaps made some wrong decisions with passing when cutting inside, but he's a winger. Caused their defence trouble when up front. Lallana 7 - Took his goal very well and some good link-up play, but disappeared a bit in the second half. Again, perhaps some work on crossing, but overall a good performance from him. Getting back to his best. Hammond 8 - Solid, made some good tackles and looked assured on the ball. Looks very comfortable in the DM role in a diamond, covers his defence very well indeed. Obviously out to impress tonight. Chaplow 6 - Looked a way off match-fitness, wasn't making the bombing runs forward that he usually does. Looked much better when he played wide in the diamond. When he's match fit, he can be the key. Guly 5 - Showed glimpses of his talent, but again he didn't look very fit. His tackling was atrocious (rugby tackling almost!) and gave the ball away a few times. Left Lee deserted up front often, looked better in the diamond. Lee 7 - Made some great runs off the ball, but our midfielders preferred to switch the ball instead of playing it into channels for him. Was making the kind of runs that Chaplow does when he plays wide, looks handy. Subs Lambert 7 - Great goal and looked very comfortable on the ball. Passing was good but seemed a bit confused by his role when we brought Barnard on and seemed to go 4-3-3, not sure whether to drop deep or stay high. Reeves 8 - Very impressed by him. Passing was great and made some good tackles. For a little lad he certainly puts himself around a lot. Looked very good out wide in the diamond, picked out some lovely through-balls. Barnard 6 - Got stuck in but not much else to say. Didn't match the speed of the game when he came on and looked a little lost. He's been out for a while though, so unfair to judge him too much on a cameo like today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Disappointing result. Would have loved Bolton at SMS. Need a good performance and a solid win Saturday to stop the rot and restore some confidence. Wobbling. Very obviously wobbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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