Jonnyboy Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 If we get three points on Saturday I for one will never think of this game again in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 We could easily slip out of the top 6 if we don't buck up. The league is a lot tighter now and we don't look like getting a win from anywhere at the moment. I'm genuinely very worried now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 If Adkins has us finishing 7th, it would be pretty hard to call it a woeful season given our aims in August. But I fear a lot would want him sacked long before that. I don't think Cortese would do it though, not right away. Personally I hope he stays here a long time and continues to improve with this squad. Isn't a manager out there that hasn't had to turn round some poor form. Do you really believe he has the motivational and tactical dexterity required for the challenge ahead of him now ? Btw, 7th would be an utter disaster when you look back at the end of November. I am not sure this group of players, playing together, would ever recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I am not too despondent as I always felt we would slide down the league after a surprisingly good start and I am genuine and have always been in my prediction of 17th. Having said that, I am as puzzled as others as to why such a good team on paper is struggling. Is NA out of his depth ? I think he's proven that he's not. Some of the comments about NA tonight beggar belief. What a bunch of lunatics. We're on crap form which isn't anywhere near good enough for achiving anything other than mid-table nothingness, but our start has risen expectations beyond anything anyone thought was possible at the start of the year. That's now the issue. I don't belief we have a great, great team (a good team, yep - but not amazingly great) and I feel ''better'' squads are now catching up with us in terms of the league. I.e Birmingham, whu, cardiff etc. We'll have to do very very well to stay in the top 2, but it's still amazing we're even in contention. I think Adkins has done miracles this year to get us in this position in the first place, but this little slump has just knocked us all a little. I think more than anything the slogan ''together as one'' is now apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I Think are problem is back 4 are middle and forwards are perfect! but back 4 is weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Don't think anybody is saying that. But just for good measure - check our our recent form. What you'll find, is that is is worrying, is giving cause for concern, is not very good, is making us drop away from the promotion places, is not indicative of instilling confidence in the players. There is a problem - if you fail to see it - tough. I understand their is a problem but it is not as desperate as some goons make it out to be...do you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I think we have to be patient. I always felt this season would be about consolidation and that next season will be the one when we push for promotion. do you seriously think that if we are bad enough to finish 17th this season,we will then miraculously be good enough for promotion next season ? have had a head injury recently ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWY Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Anyone know the attendance tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 At the moment it seems like more often than not, our midfield just isn't reading our strikers' runs which means they have to come deep to get on the ball and we end up playing sideways ball until someone plays a (bad) cross into the box or we give up and try to hoof it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 We're in big trouble. You're joking, please tell me you're joking. Who cares about this? We're now free of another 'pointless' game in this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 If Adkins has us finishing 7th, it would be pretty hard to call it a woeful season given our aims in August. But I fear a lot would want him sacked long before that. I don't think Cortese would do it though, not right away. Personally I hope he stays here a long time and continues to improve with this squad. Isn't a manager out there that hasn't had to turn round some poor form. No-one seems to be mentioning that Lallana's form is picking up after all the criticism he's had on here. If he and Puncheon find form at the same time, with Lambert and Sharp up front, then I won't be moaning. If people asked Adkins to be sacked for finishing 7th they are loonies. As you said this would be a fantastic first season after promotion. Even if we finish lower mid table we have to support NA and hope things improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I think we have to be patient. I always felt this season would be about consolidation and that next season will be the one when we push for promotion. PLEASE log on to the BBC predictor and try to get us finishing 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethallee Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Home form is a massive worry. Does not help we are starting games poorly at moment with Adkins not getting tactics right from first whistle. Low confidence, unsettled starting eleven and wrong tactics = Poor perfromances and results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 You're joking, please tell me you're joking. Who cares about this? We're now free of another 'pointless' game in this season. I find it bizarre that you look at this game in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I will await the reaction from those at the game to see if we are as bad as some claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Adkins team selections, substitutions define belief of late. Defiantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I'm confused as to what people mean by this. What slide did S****horpe have down the league? Weren't they always battling relegation and surviving against the odds? They've only totally dropped out of the equation since Adkins left. I believe it was the 2007 season when S****horpe came up from League One under Adkins and had an incredible start in the Championship and were sitting in the top three. Then, all of a sudden it fell apart and they lost game after game and ended up being relegated. When Adkins was appointed all I could remember was how things happened under S****horpe and was pleasantly surprised how well he's been for us until recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 We could easily slip out of the top 6 if we don't buck up. The league is a lot tighter now and we don't look like getting a win from anywhere at the moment. I'm genuinely very worried now If you want promotion then I think we need to stick to the top 2. Even if we made the play offs I really couldn't see us doing it from there - if it's not automatic, is nothing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 You never predicted a good start followed by a slump. You predicted struggle from the off and 17th. Yes I did. I said that we may well start well but then we would gently slide down the table. I also said that although we would finish 17th we would NOT be in a relegation fight as it woud be a commfortable slide downwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludgershallsaint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I think we have to be patient. I always felt this season would be about consolidation and that next season will be the one when we push for promotion. It doesn't work like that though, we have the opportunity now. 17 games to go with a two point lead is a much better place to be than equal with everyone and 46 games to go. This idea of building a team is out of date, if you don't achieve more or less straight away PL teams will come along and take the best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Adkins on Solent now. "Very scathing about 1st half performance" "The way we conceded the goals is not acceptable" *BANG* - Saints Player cuts out. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Yes I did. I said that we may well start well but then we would gently slide down the table. I also said that although we would finish 17th we would NOT be in a relegation fight as it woud be a commfortable slide downwards. I was under the impression the FA CUP was not the league? Seriously, we were beaten by a wonder-goal. Get over yourself and stop attention seeking. If only you were so vocal when we win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I understand their is a problem but it is not as desperate as some goons make it out to be...do you agree? Depends what you want - if you want to stay in the league we have no problems, if you want to reach the play offs we have problems, if you want automatic promotion we have major problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 do you seriously think that if we are bad enough to finish 17th this season,we will then miraculously be good enough for promotion next season ? have had a head injury recently ? Yes. With a few summer additions and shipping out surplass to requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 The team doesn't seem to know what it is being asked of them. Start of the season we had a set tempo and style of play. Now we hav been worked out we don't hav the answers. Adkins has to take responsibility for that. Lack of effort players are accountable which was evident in 1st half but 2nd half highlighted the lack of tactical leadership. Hammond and chaplow awful. Chaplow can be partially excused but hammond was captain missing tonight. If he can't drive team on then the others won't either. Full backs once again totally inept at tracking runs. A lot of long punts fwd as well which is a classic sign of a team lacking leadership and direction. Adkins needs to sort this out before its too late. The belief and team spirit is fading away more and more with each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Terrible result and missed opportunity to pick up confidence. Why do we persist in picking weakened teams when you need continuity to fight for form? More evidence of stupid error to not buy a new defender. Very worrying slump in form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Great. Saintsplayer craps out half way through adkins interview. Sums up the night really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Adkins on Solent now. "Very scathing about 1st half performance" "The way we conceded the goals is not acceptable" *BANG* - Saints Player cuts out. FFS So he should be, he needs to pick the boys up and turn it round FAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I find it bizarre that you look at this game in isolation. to be honest I don't understand the views towards this game meaning nothing. It means a huge deal in the fact we haven't won for ages, and this was a great opportunity to boost our confidence. In fact we've lost the game in the worst possible way and that's only going to hit our confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Typical Saints, lose a late goal to win the tie away from home and then botch a very winnable tie at home against a sh1t team. Couple that with Brum getting a late winner tonight and I am really frustrated. I have been able to shrug off most of our bad form lately and not let it bother me, but I am seething right now, really worried for the rest of the season. Winning breeds confidence and we are back to square 1 again, so frustrated, we could have had a winnable home game vs Bolton for a place in the semis but now we had better start winning and fast or this season could end up being memorable for all the wrong reasons. I'm off for a lie down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Aaaaaaaargh saintsplayer:x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 You're joking, please tell me you're joking. Who cares about this? We're now free of another 'pointless' game in this season. I think that Alps is talking about the 'bigger picture'. Probably nobody here is too bothered about being out of the cup - but in terms of everything else football - tonight was a bad bad night for us, form, confidence, the lot - all took a big hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 It doesn't work like that though, we have the opportunity now. 17 games to go with a two point lead is a much better place to be than equal with everyone and 46 games to go. This idea of building a team is out of date, if you don't achieve more or less straight away PL teams will come along and take the best players. Good point. I suppose if we fail to go up Lambert and Lallana are the most likely targets. Then it would depend whether we strengthen ourselves. We didn't after the sale of Oxo so we probably wouldn't again. However, I am sure that the original plan was to consolidate this season and push on next. Didn't NC have a 5 year plan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Nigel sounded quite concerned and fed up in that interview. Got the feeling that a couple of players just aren't doing it for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 to be honest I don't understand the views towards this game meaning nothing. It means a huge deal in the fact we haven't won for ages, and this was a great opportunity to boost our confidence. In fact we've lost the game in the worst possible way and that's only going to hit our confidence. 100% agree. I believe in the boys though, and a good win on Saturday could be the turning point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 I am worried about our home form, it was clearly the lynchpin for the first half of this season and without it for this half, well its going to be difficult. You cant read too much into tonights 'Cup' game, Saturday now becomes the biggest game since the Derby play off semi. If we can win it, and really, nothing short of that is acceptable, it could get us back on track at home, and that is what is going to be the deciding factor over the next three months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Never heard NA so hacked off. Chin up Nigel, you learn more from a defeat ! (He confirmed Reeves goal was onside) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludgershallsaint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Yes. With a few summer additions and shipping out surplass to requirements. You will probably draw some odd satisfaction if we do finish 17th. Considering that the most points for a team finishing 17th in the last three years is 56 - FOUR more points than we currently have. You are dreaming if you think we could finish up there and then miraculously be challenging next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Nigel sounded quite concerned and fed up in that interview. Got the feeling that a couple of players just aren't doing it for him. With the size of our squad now he can afford to drop anyone not pulling their weight like a stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 With the size of our squad now he can afford to drop anyone not pulling their weight like a stone Hopefully Gully (did'nt watch today but on the radio seems to waste/loose the ball so much) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Very poor result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartarus112 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Disappointed as this was a very winnable game. Sounded like we lacked any sort of passing in the first half with Hammond and Chaplow in the centre. However the performances of Cork and Morgan against Brum were excellent in terrible conditions so not too much of a concern. Team sounds like it needs a confidence boost. Maybe an international break to rebuild team spirit etc. Those expecting Sharp to come in and dramatically change our team should lessen their expectations as this is not down to one player i.e. Guly/Connelly as some have been blaming. Connely was by far the better player against Brum (I was there and Sharp looked very slack but was a bad game to make debut) Fans need to rally around and support the team in this troubled patch like we would if we were at the other end of the league. Automatic promotion and title still easily within reach with a poor West Ham side scraping the wins about the same as us. I for one have full confidence in Nigal Adkins and expect him to be holding the Championship trophy come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Good point. I suppose if we fail to go up Lambert and Lallana are the most likely targets. Then it would depend whether we strengthen ourselves. We didn't after the sale of Oxo so we probably wouldn't again. However, I am sure that the original plan was to consolidate this season and push on next. Didn't NC have a 5 year plan ? so if we dont go up & Ricky & Lallana go, they wont be replaced ? i dont know if i should laugh or get annoyed with you. neither probably, as its not your fault your mentally afflicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Just got back... that was a shocker and once again we have been let down by **** poor officials. Besides that why can't our full backs cross a football? we get into good positions only to be let down by crap balls going into the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Great result. Focus on the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Besides that why can't our full backs cross a football? we get into good positions only to be let down by crap balls going into the box. They can, that's the most frustrating thing at the moment. You have to sometimes take into account that the opposition see that as our strength, and maybe they are getting to us quicker and making it harder to whip the balls up and over? Hence the constant blocking of a cross. Just a thought. Teams seem to be sussing us out quite a lot these days, and we've become pretty easy to play against and quite predictable at times. Hopefully players like Lee, Sharp and a returning Puncheon will give us some of our unpredictability back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Sitting in the KA now, absolutely seething about the result. Some will say it doesn't matter but it was a chance to get a win and build confidence. The reffing for their third was appalling, ball was still rolling and Feeney was offside. F*cking hope we get a result against Burnley otherwise I worry about the psychological effect it will have on the boys. I was embarrassed by ournsupport in the Northam as well, absolutely sh!te. Will post up ratings when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Just got back... that was a shocker and once again we have been let down by **** poor officials. Besides that why can't our full backs cross a football? we get into good positions only to be let down by crap balls going into the box. Officials were indeed shoite. Interesting that Nigel said reeves goal was onsite but didn't suggest millwalls third was off as looked well offsite from where we were. Despite losing I think we played well from 40 mins onwards! If it wasn't for that last (offside) wonder goal and had gone on to win it then surely those who were there would also recognise that we showed some really good skill at times. Lallanas goal being one moment and a few of the chances Tadanori should have put away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 February, 2012 Share Posted 7 February, 2012 Officials were indeed shoite. Interesting that Nigel said reeves goal was onsite but didn't suggest millwalls third was off as looked well offsite from where we were. Despite losing I think we played well from 40 mins onwards! If it wasn't for that last (offside) wonder goal and had gone on to win it then surely those who were there would also recognise that we showed some really good skill at times. Lallanas goal being one moment and a few of the chances Tadanori should have put away... How was Lee? (apart from those chances he missed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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