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Just wondering if anyone else on here does exercise and wht they do?

 

At the moment I am on the cross trainer 3 times a week, I referee Sunday am and pm, and Wednesday evenings. I also Monday to Friday walk about 3 miles to work and back.

 

My fitness is quite good, but need to lose couple of stone. Cardio is the best for burning fat, so the above are quite good.

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I've been really hitting it hard since Christmas. Currently I exercise every evening. I go jogging Monday, Wednesday and Friday (Start at 3 miles and take it up to 5-6 miles on the Friday) and do British Military Fitness classes on Tuesday and Thursday, 1 Hour of jogging, circuit training drills and strength stuff.

 

It is making a big difference already.

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Had major knee surgery in late August, they stitched my Meniscus after removing around 20% of it and then filed the bones smooth to help stop Osteo whatever Arthritis and then filled it up with Gelatine.

 

Told me it would take 6 months to be back to normal. Did Cycling every day (once the knee started to let me downstairs) those exercise band things, leg weights and then general rowing machine & weights for arms & shoulders. I was back playing golf by 1st week of October, although confined by Doc's orders to driving round in a buggy until December!

 

Found the main problem was boredom. Until the pain kicks in.

 

Lost around 8Kg in that time, and was signed off as fully recovered in 3.5 months and was straight out doing my Golf Course working stuff - about 15 km a day for 11 days out of 14 in early December.

 

Not bad for an old fart, have one more week for the Golf stuff starting Tuesday night then back to the Gym. Still have 10Kg to lose and some beer gut muscles to tone back up before Daughters wedding in June and I have to get one more walk out onto a cricket pitch this summer even if it is just to embarrass myself.

 

Oh, I also found that 45 minute to 1hr sh@gging sessions help greatly and you don't have to have Ipod earphones in while you do it. 8)

 

But, seriously found it was the setting of the targets that helped me get through, end of August I was in agony on Meds and unable to even get down stairs for 10 days, but set the target of running round at the Dubai World Championships and that drove me on every day.

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Currently training for the Brighton and London marathons, so I'm out running at least x 4 a week - including a long run at the weekend. On the non run days I spend about 30 mins alternating between dumbbells and some abs exerciser thing I've had for a few years. And I have to walk a mile to and from the station to get to work most days.

 

I should be much fitter and thinner than I am!

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Currently training for the Brighton and London marathons, so I'm out running at least x 4 a week - including a long run at the weekend. On the non run days I spend about 30 mins alternating between dumbbells and some abs exerciser thing I've had for a few years. And I have to walk a mile to and from the station to get to work most days.

 

I should be much fitter and thinner than I am!

 

Good for you, I want to do this is 2013. Need to lose weight and get up to full fitness first.

 

I would also recommend yoga, and before you laugh it off, it is great for you mindset. Running a marathon is also all to do with you head.

 

Let me know you just giving link closer to the time and I will be happy to support a fellow Saint!

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Running a marathon is also all to do with you head.

 

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I could believe that. I ran 6 miles for the first time a week or so ago, and getting past the concept of 'I'm feeling great so carry on' is difficult. You are not going to feel great for the whole run, you will get niggles, maybe blisters, a bit of muscle tightening on gradient etc and you must learn to push through it. Keep moving. The recovery after those six miles was only the weekend after. Pushing through the niggles is a definite 'attitude.'

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I could believe that. I ran 6 miles for the first time a week or so ago, and getting past the concept of 'I'm feeling great so carry on' is difficult. You are not going to feel great for the whole run, you will get niggles, maybe blisters, a bit of muscle tightening on gradient etc and you must learn to push through it. Keep moving. The recovery after those six miles was only the weekend after. Pushing through the niggles is a definite 'attitude.'

 

I watched a lot of interviews with Eddie Izard and he was saying it is ALL in the head, you can do it. He ran 1 a day for a month.

 

Yoga also just makes you feel good and relaxed and at ease. IMO.

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Good for you, I want to do this is 2013. Need to lose weight and get up to full fitness first.

 

I would also recommend yoga, and before you laugh it off, it is great for you mindset. Running a marathon is also all to do with you head.

 

Let me know you just giving link closer to the time and I will be happy to support a fellow Saint!

 

Thank you kindly, will make sure I do that when I get round to setting it up! I've never given yoga a try, wouldn't laugh it off without doing so first! These two will be my 3rd and 4th marathons - you are correct, the mental battle is a significant part of it. Would recommend doing one, few things have made me as momentarily pleased with myself as crossing a finish line after 26 miles of running...

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Play hockey, so training once a week for 2hours and a match. Gym once or twice a week. Would love to do a marathon. Did a 100km (62 mile) walk last year which was an experience, especially as it rained constantly for the first 7 hours of it. So a marathon should be a breeze!!!

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Thank you kindly, will make sure I do that when I get round to setting it up! I've never given yoga a try, wouldn't laugh it off without doing so first! These two will be my 3rd and 4th marathons - you are correct, the mental battle is a significant part of it. Would recommend doing one, few things have made me as momentarily pleased with myself as crossing a finish line after 26 miles of running...

 

How did you find the training when going from 10k level to seriously long distance? What major issues did you get?

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I did the Nijmegen walk back in 1991, which was 25 miles a day for 4 days. I loved it, but was 16 at the time and did it with a group of mates on a school trip. Still got the medal.

 

Really try yoga, it really does work wonders.... Just not for a dodgy knee :(

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How did you find the training when going from 10k level to seriously long distance? What major issues did you get?

 

I kicked off running in Jan 09 to shift some serious weight, with a view to completing that year's Great South Run that October. So I started doing a mile or so, then worked my way up to 4 across the next couple of months, then jumped to 8m in April 09 then to 10 over the next couple of months - so I've had that 10m baseline for a while now. Once I got into the 2010 Brighton Marathon I started to push past 10 in the preceding January, working up to 20m about 3 weeks before. Major issues: Once I started being out longer than 90 mins I had to start worrying about taking some more calories on board en route - and when I got over 20 I got a serious education in what chafes and what doesn't! Other than that, nothing really. Touch wood I've never had an injury worth talking about. The four months a year I'm actively training for a marathon take some balancing with work and family life etc, but that's about it!

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Cardio is not the best for burning fat, weight training is.

 

Not true, whilst it is true when you build muscle, it requires a higher supply of calories to maintain a weight, therefore you'll lose weight (although at a certain stage, weight becomes unimportant, but rather fat is) by eating the same as before (if it's not an insane amount) to maintain such muscle growth, it is a generally accepted rule that any cardio work over 30 minutes will lose body fat quicker than weight training.

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Not true, whilst it is true when you build muscle, it requires a higher supply of calories to maintain a weight, therefore you'll lose weight (although at a certain stage, weight becomes unimportant, but rather fat is) by eating the same as before (if it's not an insane amount) to maintain such muscle growth, it is a generally accepted rule that any cardio work over 30 minutes will lose body fat quicker than weight training.

 

Also muscle weighs 3 times as much as fat so many people who use weights actually put on weight.

 

Most important thing about losing weight is calories in v calories out.

 

BTW, my exercise is running at the moment (anything from 2-4 days a week running 2km sprints to 21km jogs). Would love to head back to the UK to run the London Marathon (would like to do it for my 40th in a few years as the marathon is alway a week before my bday), so have been trying to obtain a level of fitness for it and will be entering some half marathons this year.

 

Also indend to get on the bike this year and in the pool to take part in some Triathlons. IMO they are the best event to take part in - a real sense of satisfaction upon completion.

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Run 5 times a week. I am in training for at least 5 half marathons (and some 5 and 10km races) this year. I love it, ran my first marathon last year in 3:55, don't have the time to do those really long runs this year, but will put in about 2000kms in all. Took a lot of patience and building up slowly to get to this point where I can run virtually every day (hard speed workouts and long runs) without it taking a toll on my legs. In the best shape of my life at the moment, hope to go sub 1:40 in the half marathon this year (PB is 1:44).

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Gym at least once a week, minimum 45 mins walk every lunchtime, plus if it's not blowing a gale I'll try to get in a 40 mile bike ride at weekends. Half term next week so there should be at least one hike in the Lakes District, ( nice and cold as well ! ).

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Also muscle weighs 3 times as much as fat so many people who use weights actually put on weight.

 

Most important thing about losing weight is calories in v calories out.

 

BTW, my exercise is running at the moment (anything from 2-4 days a week running 2km sprints to 21km jogs). Would love to head back to the UK to run the London Marathon (would like to do it for my 40th in a few years as the marathon is alway a week before my bday), so have been trying to obtain a level of fitness for it and will be entering some half marathons this year.

 

Also indend to get on the bike this year and in the pool to take part in some Triathlons. IMO they are the best event to take part in - a real sense of satisfaction upon completion.

 

That's exactly why I mentioned losing fat is, to a point, more important than losing weight. Since July I've been running and hitting the gym (on top of the martial art I work at) and whilst I've dropped from a 36 inch waist to the lowest of a 28 inch waist, my weight has actually slightly gone up (that'll be the muscle growth).

 

But have no illusions, the best way to lose body fat is a cardiovascular activity such as running.

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Started the gym at the turn of the year. Just doing cardio, had to stop running because my calf muscle kept going. Eating sensibly as well.

 

Unfortunately, I haven't been to the gym for a week and I'm slipping back into my old eating habits.

 

I am still a greedy lazy bastard. The only regular exercise is a game of golf or two every week.

 

I could get away with the eating when I played football (I was very good), but been on the slippery slope for a while now. I reckon I'm a good 3 stone from my fighting weight.

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I weight train 6 days a week and run 5 days a week. So far It's done nothing but make me look like a stick person even while sticking to an appropriate diet plan. I don't want to drop the cardio though as I'd like to complete my first marathon this year but being so skinny is driving me nuts.

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Walking.

 

Just started to get back into exercise in the last 3 months after 18 months of doing nothing.

 

I played football all my life and when I stopped that I took up the gym/squash. About 18 months ago I was told I had arthritis in my right knee and that I should do nothing that involves impact or creates tension in the knee.

 

I stopped everything as I don't really enjoy swimming and got really unfit in the intervening months. Then I had to go into hospital for an op so I decided I had to get my fitness up a little so that I didn't die on the table.

 

I started walking - just really to see if I would get a reaction from my knee. I've just increased the distance gradually. From walking a couple of miles into town until now I'm regularly doing 15-20 miles cross-country hikes.

 

It's an amazing feeling to get my heart moving again after so many months away and so far no problems with my knee.

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That's exactly why I mentioned losing fat is, to a point, more important than losing weight. Since July I've been running and hitting the gym (on top of the martial art I work at) and whilst I've dropped from a 36 inch waist to the lowest of a 28 inch waist, my weight has actually slightly gone up (that'll be the muscle growth).

 

But have no illusions, the best way to lose body fat is a cardiovascular activity such as running.

 

I was born with a larger than 28" waist! Fair play.

 

Not true, whilst it is true when you build muscle, it requires a higher supply of calories to maintain a weight, therefore you'll lose weight (although at a certain stage, weight becomes unimportant, but rather fat is) by eating the same as before (if it's not an insane amount) to maintain such muscle growth, it is a generally accepted rule that any cardio work over 30 minutes will lose body fat quicker than weight training.

 

I have to agree about the cardiovascular point. But one qualifier, I believe that your heart rate is also important.

 

To those that do some exercise but find they don't burn fat I'd suggest you invest in a heart rate monitor and try to do 30+ minutes of exercise at >75% of your maximum heart rate (which from memory is roughly 225 beats per minute less your age).

 

I believe the time and the stress on the heart are both important to get the body to use fat as a source of energy.

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I've been really hitting it hard since Christmas. Currently I exercise every evening. I go jogging Monday, Wednesday and Friday (Start at 3 miles and take it up to 5-6 miles on the Friday) and do British Military Fitness classes on Tuesday and Thursday, 1 Hour of jogging, circuit training drills and strength stuff.

 

It is making a big difference already.

 

You will burn out eventually and will likely find yourself picking up more colds and viruses. 3-4 hours a week should be more than sufficient if you're doing the right things

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I surf as often as I can but in flat spells I do circuit traning. Combination of cardio and strength and conditioning using body weight over pumping iron. Also play in a 5 a side once a week and due to the appaling fitness of my team mates, have to cover a lot of ground! I also have a dog which requires at least 2 hours excercise a day so shared with the girlfriend, at least an hours walk a day.

 

As I'm now approaching 30 I'm being drawn to Yoga and would like to give it a try but I fear I may fart.

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I am currently doing 30 minute of kettlebells 3 times a week. 5 Ladders of clean and presses followed by a 20 minute circuit of swings, turkish gets up and then a minute skipping as active recovery. Also do 1.5 hours of Krav Maga once or twice a week.

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I was born with a larger than 28" waist! Fair play.

 

 

 

I have to agree about the cardiovascular point. But one qualifier, I believe that your heart rate is also important.

 

To those that do some exercise but find they don't burn fat I'd suggest you invest in a heart rate monitor and try to do 30+ minutes of exercise at >75% of your maximum heart rate (which from memory is roughly 225 beats per minute less your age).

 

I believe the time and the stress on the heart are both important to get the body to use fat as a source of energy.

 

Depends what you want to achieve, the best hart rate for fat loss is around 50% of your MHR would you believe. To improve fitness it's 75%, although obviously any excerise will improve fitness and is better than nothing.

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I am currently doing 30 minute of kettlebells 3 times a week. 5 Ladders of clean and presses followed by a 20 minute circuit of swings, turkish gets up and then a minute skipping as active recovery. Also do 1.5 hours of Krav Maga once or twice a week.

 

You doing that in Shirley? I know the gym owner (she is the cousin of a mutual friend, her maiden name will explain who). Good mate of mine goes there and swears by it.

 

I've restarted boxing in St Marys after a while running and cycling to shift some bulk, but thinking of heading over to Krav Maga? Also my missus wants to do it - I obviously consider this wierd but said mate says you get quite a few Doris' up there?

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Football training for a couple of hours twice a week and occasional sallies from the bench, although we've just had our winter break (warm temperatures and good grounds) and now meant to be re-starting (snow-covered frozen pitches!).. Off in an hour to train on the all weather - it'll be down to -10, I reckon. I also ski 2/3 times a week and occasional snow-shoe sorties. I only went up for a couple of hours today, although managed a bit of off-piste, because it was sooo perishing cold. Lots of brisk walking around town, to various workplaces carrying books, and shopping. Not too bad for mid-50s, and touch wood/tocca ferro, I've been lucky with my knees.

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You doing that in Shirley? I know the gym owner (she is the cousin of a mutual friend, her maiden name will explain who). Good mate of mine goes there and swears by it.

 

I've restarted boxing in St Marys after a while running and cycling to shift some bulk, but thinking of heading over to Krav Maga? Also my missus wants to do it - I obviously consider this wierd but said mate says you get quite a few Doris' up there?

 

No mate, do it at Cantell school and the Hub in Eastleigh. Only a couple of birds to my club, was quite a tidy Polish one coming for a while but not seen her for a while. Been doing it about a year now and got a second grading coming in May. It's excellent, very varied, do something different every week so you never get bored with it.

 

http://www.essentialkravmaga.co.uk £30 a month and you can go to as many classes as you want.

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You will burn out eventually and will likely find yourself picking up more colds and viruses. 3-4 hours a week should be more than sufficient if you're doing the right things
Well, in total it adds up to about 4 hours or so, so fingers crossed the burn out won't happen. I've adjusted my diet accordingly and ensure I am correctly 'fueled' before I exercise so we shall see.
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No mate, do it at Cantell school and the Hub in Eastleigh. Only a couple of birds to my club, was quite a tidy Polish one coming for a while but not seen her for a while. Been doing it about a year now and got a second grading coming in May. It's excellent, very varied, do something different every week so you never get bored with it.

 

wwww.essentialkravmaga.co.uk £30 a month and you can go to as many classes as you want.

 

Nice one - I'll look into that, both more accessable to me than Shirley - don't like to go across the water if I don't have to! Need it for self protection, mate's new party peice is digging people in the ribs randomly with his index finger down the pub... Nice chap. "if you can't beat em" etc!

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Well, in total it adds up to about 4 hours or so, so fingers crossed the burn out won't happen. I've adjusted my diet accordingly and ensure I am correctly 'fueled' before I exercise so we shall see.

 

Fair enough, just speaking from personal experience and it's also the case that top athlete's (those who train daily) aren't in such good a health as many would believe.

 

Providing you feel that you're getting enough rest and fuel between sessions I'm sure you'll be fine.

 

To anyone training regularly, I'd also recommend not feeling too guilty should you have a week off every now and then. It allows the body to recover and any little niggles to repair.

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A few myths being thrown out here.

 

50% MHR = best for fat burning; not quite true. It's the intensity that burns the highest % of fat (compared to other energy sources). If exercising at higher intensities (i.e. heart rates) you burn a lower percentage of your fuel as fat but use more energy and thus more total fat (even though it is a lower % of your total expenditure).

 

More than 3-4 hours of exercise will leave you burned out and at greater risk to viral and bacterial infection; again, that's only a half truth. Yes continued strenuous exercise will depress the immune system and burn you out, but again this is down to the individual. Moderate exercise will actually stimulate the immune system, so if colin isn't going all out in every workout he is probably protecting himself against infection.

 

You have to put the things you hear into context, i.e. the individual who is performing the exercises.

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As I'm now approaching 30 I'm being drawn to Yoga and would like to give it a try but I fear I may fart.

 

I have just started pilates. I am not quite sure of the difference between that and yoga but I would definitely recommend pilates.

 

I couldn't find a class that fitted my schedule so I have been following a DVD. The danger is that I am not following the exercises properly and do not have a tutor to correct me. The plus side is that nobody else hears me fart!!

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Wish I could run some of the distances people on here have mentioned, unfortunately shin splints and various other niggles leave me too sore to do so. If I do football training midweek I'm in too much pain to play on a Sunday, only 26 too which is a bit ****. Do a bit of gym work during the week, normally about 3 times a week, plus Sunday league footy on top of that so am fairly fit. Used to do boxfit classes in Titchfield which was by far some of the most intense fitness I've done, the guy who runs it was a proper skate though.

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No mate, do it at Cantell school and the Hub in Eastleigh. Only a couple of birds to my club, was quite a tidy Polish one coming for a while but not seen her for a while. Been doing it about a year now and got a second grading coming in May. It's excellent, very varied, do something different every week so you never get bored with it.

 

http://www.essentialkravmaga.co.uk £30 a month and you can go to as many classes as you want.

 

I know the very one; in fact I was thinking of having a look at it as it's actually very very (and I do mean very) similar to the martial art I do, Hung Leng Kuen Kung Fu at Southampton university, which I do Monday, tuesday and thursday evening and saturdays for 2 hours at a time, with a termly (3 months) cost of £10, bargain!

 

(I know what you're thinking, kung fu, but trust me, the system Sijo Dutton (god rest him, he recently passed with cancer) came up with is, in the words of the army "different and direct"; Krav Maga, from what I've seen use essentially the same holds and self-defence techniques as us...i.e. the hammer lock, and the average "claws are for adults, fists ae for people who don't want to hurt anyone as it was designesd not to fit in an eye socket unlike a finger and rip their f*cking nuts off so we don't get son of w&nker" kung fu eh? all flowery and such a soft art lol)

 

the web addy is: http://www.soton.ac.uk/~hungleng

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I have just started pilates. I am not quite sure of the difference between that and yoga but I would definitely recommend pilates.

 

I couldn't find a class that fitted my schedule so I have been following a DVD. The danger is that I am not following the exercises properly and do not have a tutor to correct me. The plus side is that nobody else hears me fart!!

 

Thanks for that!

 

But can you answer that age-old philosophical question "When a man farts whilst doing pilates from a DVD, and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?".

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Wish I could run some of the distances people on here have mentioned, unfortunately shin splints and various other niggles leave me too sore to do so. If I do football training midweek I'm in too much pain to play on a Sunday, only 26 too which is a bit ****. Do a bit of gym work during the week, normally about 3 times a week, plus Sunday league footy on top of that so am fairly fit. Used to do boxfit classes in Titchfield which was by far some of the most intense fitness I've done, the guy who runs it was a proper skate though.

 

I had chronic shin splints and thought i'd have to give up running altogether. Then I discovered a book called ChiRunning that calls for an adjustment from heel striking to a mid foot landing with a forward lean from the ankles, concentrating on running from the core muscles. Worked wonders for me, I now run 1800-2000 kms per year and haven't suffered from shin pains in years.

 

I worked on my posture and running form to an extent that I run "quietly" now, as if I am creeping up on someone, it takes a lot of the shock out of the shins/calves/ankles and has benefitted me no end. You have to be patient though and build up distance really slowly.

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I had chronic shin splints and thought i'd have to give up running altogether. Then I discovered a book called ChiRunning that calls for an adjustment from heel striking to a mid foot landing with a forward lean from the ankles, concentrating on running from the core muscles. Worked wonders for me, I now run 1800-2000 kms per year and haven't suffered from shin pains in years.

 

I worked on my posture and running form to an extent that I run "quietly" now, as if I am creeping up on someone, it takes a lot of the shock out of the shins/calves/ankles and has benefitted me no end. You have to be patient though and build up distance really slowly.

 

Thanks for the advice, shall certainly give that book a try. Thought there was no hope for me, even a proper pair of running shoes never solved the problem, didn't give much though to my technique.

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Nice one - I'll look into that, both more accessable to me than Shirley - don't like to go across the water if I don't have to! Need it for self protection, mate's new party peice is digging people in the ribs randomly with his index finger down the pub... Nice chap. "if you can't beat em" etc!

 

Funnily enough there were a few birds there tonight making their debuts. The two regulars plus two newbies. Sadly the fittest one came along with her boyfriend.

 

Was also told there is going to be another Southampton class starting on a Monday or Tuesday, which is ideal for me.

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I love the people who walk up to our club and say "I do mixed martial arts/jeet kune do", really love them....one art not good enough for you or is it because it's fashionable?

 

We hold a tai chi lesson on a tuesday, but some are a bit shocked when they find out that tai chi is in fact a martial art (tai chi chuan means "grand ultimate fist") in itself and basically just a way to allow a person to fight and defend themselves when they are otherwise incapable...old for example.

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For weight loss, I have found the most effective strategy to be Intermittent Fasting (see http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html ).

 

I eat a mainly protein based diet, with occasional carbohydrate re-feeds to aid weight training. I train in a fasted state and only eat one meal per day, after my workout.

 

I only do six weight training exercises, 2 each across 3 days: Squats, Barbell Shoulder Press, Weighted Chin Ups, Barbell Bench Presses, Weighted Dips, Deadlifts. Doing 5 sets of 5-8 repetitions (recommended reading - Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe http://www.amazon.co.uk/Starting-Strength-ebook/dp/B006XJR5ZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328861207&sr=8-1 )

 

The best way to lose weight is through diet. It doesn't matter how much running you do if you stuff your face with cake every night. From a physiological point of view, protein-based diets have an advantage in that protein cannot be converted into fat by your body, but carbohydrate can (for endless details see Lyle McDonalds site http://www.bodyrecomposition.com or any of his books).

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