Gingeletiss Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Just ban him ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 All this "Guly is ****"" stuff is quite moronic. Is he frustrating? Yes of course he is. Is he inconsistant? Yes of course he is. Is he a good player? A look at the stats make it obvious that he is. I think that if he finished as the leagues top scorer, found a cure for cancer and established world peace, the usual suspects on here would continue to drone on with their senseless drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Chalet and saint clarke don't think guly is ****e, so anyone who does is wrong and they are not allowed to express their views. 1. I think he is inconsistant, and shouldn't start with our current squad. 2. I also think we should discuss it on a different thread to one that was discussing 'Weekend Championship Fixtures'. You didn't know my view on the first point and hopefully you are now clear on the reasons for me shifting the posts in respect of the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2012 So because I think that a player who is superb one week but then an absolute waste of space the following week therefor I dont rate him as one of the best players in the division... I am racist? You lot are something else. It's how it is on here. If you have the same views as saint clarke and chalet it's fine to express them, but if you don't it's deemed as ruining threads etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 So because I think that a player who is superb one week but then an absolute waste of space the following week therefor I dont rate him as one of the best players in the division... I am racist? You lot are something else. You're also ignorant, cretinous, blinkered, not too bright and pathetic apparently. Some posters on here need to sort themselves out. You wouldn't say it to people's faces, so don't do it on here, would be my advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 You're also ignorant, cretinous, blinkered, not too bright and pathetic apparently. Some posters on here need to sort themselves out. You wouldn't say it to people's faces, so don't do it on here, would be my advice. Haha, funnily enough I get quite alot of stick on here for doing exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2012 1. I think he is inconsistant, and shouldn't start with our current squad. 2. I also think we should discuss it on a different thread to one that was discussing 'Weekend Championship Fixtures'. You didn't know my view on the first point and hopefully you are now clear on the reasons for me shifting the posts in respect of the second. So you think it's ok for you to start threads in the name of other people with thread titles that you decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 So you think it's ok for you to start threads in the name of other people with thread titles that you decide. Choose your title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2012 You're also ignorant, cretinous, blinkered, not too bright and pathetic. Fair comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Fair comments. Coming from the spoon who spends every waking moment on a internet forum. Guess who I pitty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Why must we always have a scape goat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 To be fair, Guly is lazy, is bone idol, doesn't look bothered, doesn't chase back, has a terrible first touch but somehow manages to score a fair amount of goals and assist a few too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Just ban him ffs Pipe down copper top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Coming from the spoon who spends every waking moment on a internet forum. Guess who I pitty... One T in pity......hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Why must we always have a scape goat..... So he's a scape goat now, because he's not universally liked? Would you care to over react a little more? I don't think you've made enough of a drama of it all yet. Haha, funnily enough I get quite alot of stick on here for doing exactly that. Well you get my point don't you? It really is absurd that because you or I have a different opinion to someone else that we're all the names under the sun. For the people that rely on stats, I would urge a note of caution. If a team has 99% of possession and no goals, but the opposition has 1% and with that they score and win, it makes the superior possession completely useless does it not? You can be a robot and say 'he's scored x amount of goals and has y amount of assists, therefore he is good and your criticism is invalid' if you want, but you're only kidding yourself. I've seen a lot of Guly this season and he has some bad qualities, but as I have said before, fair play to him because those qualities aside, he's done well. For me it was perfectly summed up against Hull. First 45 minutes I think you or I would have been able to control the ball better, would run rather than walk back from offside positions and not get bullied by defenders as badly. Second half, at the second attempt, he puts the ball in the back of the net. Is it right then to ignore that first 45 minutes just because he scored? Again, you can kid yourself if you want and say yes, but being a realist, I'm inclined to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Why must we always have a scape goat..... I am not using him as a scape goat FFS! I am stating that IMO when he is good, he's brilliant, but when he isn't good, it's not a case of (like most other players) he gets by or manages to scrape a 6/10, it's as though he really is a waste of a place on the pitch. There are plenty others who see it, so it's not just me. Quite how everyone else doesn't see I don't know TBH. Blinkered by stats I s'pose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 To be fair, Guly is lazy, is bone idol, doesn't look bothered, doesn't chase back, has a terrible first touch but somehow manages to score a fair amount of goals and assist a few too... this if he was consistent he would be playing at a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Pipe down copper top. You really are a class A knob, you must have some real dirt on Granty, to have survived on here for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 So he's a scape goat now, because he's not universally liked? Would you care to over react a little more? I don't think you've made enough of a drama of it all yet. Well you get my point don't you? It really is absurd that because you or I have a different opinion to someone else that we're all the names under the sun. For the people that rely on stats, I would urge a note of caution. If a team has 99% of possession and no goals, but the opposition has 1% and with that they score and win, it makes the superior possession completely useless does it not? You can be a robot and say 'he's scored x amount of goals and has y amount of assists, therefore he is good and your criticism is invalid' if you want, but you're only kidding yourself. I've seen a lot of Guly this season and he has some bad qualities, but as I have said before, fair play to him because those qualities aside, he's done well. For me it was perfectly summed up against Hull. First 45 minutes I think you or I would have been able to control the ball better, would run rather than walk back from offside positions and not get bullied by defenders as badly. Second half, at the second attempt, he puts the ball in the back of the net. Is it right then to ignore that first 45 minutes just because he scored? Again, you can kid yourself if you want and say yes, but being a realist, I'm inclined to say no. WTF!? I think you are arguing with the wrong fella. I am saying exactly what you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 WTF!? I think you are arguing with the wrong fella. I am saying exactly what you are! No no I'm not confused at all, I'm agreeing with you! I'm totally disagreeing with all these people who are going OTT because they don't like Guly being criticised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2012 You really are a class A knob, you must have some real dirt on Granty, to have survived on here for so long. pipe down copper top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 You're also ignorant, cretinous, blinkered, not too bright and pathetic apparently. Some posters on here need to sort themselves out. You wouldn't say it to people's faces, so don't do it on here, would be my advice. All words used by others to describe those of us who criticise Guly. I was not saying it of you, SSOTN. Note the use of the word 'apparently'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 All words used by others to describe those of us who criticise Guly. I was not saying it of you, SSOTN. Note the use of the word 'apparently'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Pipe down copper top. Posts like this show what an obnoxious prat you are. You can't seem to participate in any topic without descending into moronic comments. Oh well, I guess you're just doing what you're best equipped to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 No no I'm not confused at all, I'm agreeing with you! I'm totally disagreeing with all these people who are going OTT because they don't like Guly being criticised! i think it was the other way round with people saying he is crap/sh*t going OTT. it looks like most of the people defending Guly are not saying he is the bestest player ever rather that he has done a good job for us this year (as shown by the stats!) & that we dont expect perfection. even you & SSOTN have said he is a good player but not consistent which is the same point others have made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 I like players that work hard, give 100% and guly is not one of them! The guy is lazy! Dont let his goals this season fool you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 fact. I think you should support another team as you obviously know nothing about footbal to start such a thread. We certainly missied him against Cardiff.. Fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 You really are a class A knob, you must have some real dirt on Granty, to have survived on here for so long. I dont like some of his posts but you dont ban users just because they have different opinions! Probably shouldnt ban peeps ever....... This is just a forum, not a nightclub! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 i think it was the other way round with people saying he is crap/sh*t going OTT. it looks like most of the people defending Guly are not saying he is the bestest player ever rather that he has done a good job for us this year (as shown by the stats!) & that we dont expect perfection. even you & SSOTN have said he is a good player but not consistent which is the same point others have made? I've mainly seen people blindly defending him with stats, which as I point out, is not the be all and end all. To clarify, I was not in any way having a go at SSOTN when I listed those harsh words. I had gathered them from previous posts by Guly's defendants and said apparently SSOTN was all of those things, purely because he found faults with Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2012 I think you should support another team as you obviously know nothing about footbal to start such a thread. We certainly missied him against Cardiff.. Fact I didn't start the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Do you guys ever wonder why the overwhelming number of people don't post? Such a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Do the people having a go at dune now not think they're shooting themselves in the foot a bit? You criticise him for reducing the quality of threads, and here you are bickering and *****ing about him like it's a school playground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Do the people having a go at dune now not think they're shooting themselves in the foot a bit? You criticise him for reducing the quality of threads, and here you are bickering and *****ing about him like it's a school playground. They keep dragging me down to their level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Do you guys ever wonder why the overwhelming number of people don't post? Such a shame Absolutely. Some of the so called grown men on here need to take a look at how childish they're making themselves out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 I've mainly seen people blindly defending him with stats, which as I point out, is not the be all and end all. To clarify, I was not in any way having a go at SSOTN when I listed those harsh words. I had gathered them from previous posts by Guly's defendants and said apparently SSOTN was all of those things, purely because he found faults with Guly. ok maybe people are sick & tired off the same Guly threads all the time & automatically jump in. doesn't help with others stirring things to get reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 ok maybe people are sick & tired off the same Guly threads all the time & automatically jump in. doesn't help with others stirring things to get reactions. Indeed, it is a shame that we can't have a decent debate about Guly, but to debate involves disagreement, and that ends in 'You're a ****' or other such rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2012 ok maybe people are sick & tired off the same Guly threads all the time & automatically jump in. doesn't help with others stirring things to get reactions. So because people who think Guly is good don't like others who have a different opinion it's unacceptable to be discussed. I dunno why you lot get so het up about people with differing opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 It completely amazes me, how of all supporters in the country, Saints fans moan about an lazy, inconsistent performer, who scores loads of goals. You would think, they've gotten used to it, after adoring another lazy, inconsistent player who scored tons of goals. I'm not comparing Guly to Le Tissier, but had the latter been at Saints today in his prime, he would have been constantly slated on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 To clarify, I was not in any way having a go at SSOTN when I listed those harsh words. I had gathered them from previous posts by Guly's defendants and said apparently SSOTN was all of those things, purely because he found faults with Guly. To clarify, my points / epithets weren't directed at SSOTN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 If I use statistics I could make Papa Waigo look like he knew what the offside rule was. The fact would still remain that he didn't. I don't care if Guly is is the top Scorers, or that he is high on the assist charts. If anything, it makes me even more ****ed at him because it shows that when he really puts it in he is a different class, but too often he is a bone idol c*** who really doesn't justify playing with pretty much 10 men. Looks like should play Barnard for the rest of the season then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Looks like should play Barnard for the rest of the season then. You are missing the point entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 To clarify, my points / epithets weren't directed at SSOTN I understand and apologise for misquoting. See, we can be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 So because people who think Guly is good don't like others who have a different opinion it's unacceptable to be discussed. I dunno why you lot get so het up about people with differing opinions. read Crazy Diamonds post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 It completely amazes me, how of all supporters in the country, Saints fans moan about an lazy, inconsistent performer, who scores loads of goals. You would think, they've gotten used to it, after adoring another lazy, inconsistent player who scored tons of goals. I'm not comparing Guly to Le Tissier, but had the latter been at Saints today in his prime, he would have been constantly slated on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 I like players that work hard, give 100% and guly is not one of them! The guy is lazy! Dont let his goals this season fool you..... Like MLT then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 It completely amazes me, how of all supporters in the country, Saints fans moan about an lazy, inconsistent performer, who scores loads of goals. You would think, they've gotten used to it, after adoring another lazy, inconsistent player who scored tons of goals. I'm not comparing Guly to Le Tissier, but had the latter been at Saints today in his prime, he would have been constantly slated on this forum. So are you advocating letting someone get away with it because they are who they are? I prefer telling it how it is, to be honest. If Le Tiss had a bad game, I'd be one of the first to say it, you cannot excuse someone forever and just say 'Ah well it's him isn't it, we know he's good, he'll score or do good eventually'. Is it more blinkered to say "He is a good player but I don't like his inconsistency" or to say "He can do no wrong, he is XYZ and we know he'll deliver if not now, in a few games time"? I think you know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 So are you advocating letting someone get away with it because they are who they are? I prefer telling it how it is, to be honest. If Le Tiss had a bad game, I'd be one of the first to say it, you cannot excuse someone forever and just say 'Ah well it's him isn't it, we know he's good, he'll score or do good eventually'. But presumably you would praise him when he had a good game. The same doesn`t apply to the "Guly is ****" mob. According to them he is just **** and that is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Triple facepalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 But presumably you would praise him when he had a good game. The same doesn`t apply to the "Guly is ****" mob. According to them he is just **** and that is that. Yes, you're quite right. I also draw the line at booing your own players, too. Against Hull he frustrated the hell out of me for about an hour but scored. I wasn't shouting my lungs out at him like others were around me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 So are you advocating letting someone get away with it because they are who they are? I prefer telling it how it is, to be honest. If Le Tiss had a bad game, I'd be one of the first to say it, you cannot excuse someone forever and just say 'Ah well it's him isn't it, we know he's good, he'll score or do good eventually'. Is it more blinkered to say "He is a good player but I don't like his inconsistency" or to say "He can do no wrong, he is XYZ and we know he'll deliver if not now, in a few games time"? I think you know the answer. Fair points. Its an example of the extent to which trolls are allowed to disrupt discussion on this forum. As soon as one or two have jumped in with deliberately extreme anti posts you just know that the pro posts will be at the other end of the spectrum and measured debate goes out the window. Its playing that game that alllows trolls to thrive and get the attention they dont get elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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