dune Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Yesssssssss He's being charged. As i predicted a while back, I now envisage a by-election in Eastleigh and the removal of a dirty yellow smear from the political map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Innocent until proven guilty. A bit like Redknapp and his dog.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Actually a very good politician. Has proved to be an excellent Cabinet Minister and Secretary of State for Environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Innocent until proven guilty. A bit like Redknapp and his dog.... The case against him must be strong. The OB wouldn't press charges in such a high profile case without a lot of consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Actually a very good politician. Has proved to be an excellent Cabinet Minister and Secretary of State for Environment. I suppose he's great if smug and arrogant floats your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 He's done a very difficult job quite successfully treading a path through energy generation minefield. Getting towards an appropriate mix of gas, coal, nuke and renewables with about a dozen major power station developments consented last year which, it has to be said, is a far better record than Labour who dithered and increased the real risk of energy demand shortfalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Excellent news. The end of one of the most oily, sneaky, self-obsessed, ambitious career-minded tw*ts ever to have graced Westminster. If I had been Clegg and Cameron, I would have been looking over my shoulder at him the whole time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 If we do have a by-election in Eastleigh then the Tories will walk it if they field a half decent candidate. Despite increasing his majority at the last election Huhne didn't have that big a lead which will easily be wiped out. As said above he is a decent MP. Whether he's arrogant and smug doesn't really come into it as far as his work in Parliament goes. He's also been very helpful whenever I've contacted him about local issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2012 If we do have a by-election in Eastleigh then the Tories will walk it if they field a half decent candidate. Despite increasing his majority at the last election Huhne didn't have that big a lead which will easily be wiped out. I hope you're right and that the Tories do play it smart with a good candidate. It's criticical to doing well in 2015 for the tories to reclaim their seats back in LD marginals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 I hope you're right and that the Tories do play it smart with a good candidate. It's criticical to doing well in 2015 for the tories to reclaim their seats back in LD marginals. Lib Dems do have a big support here (see the last council elections when they increased their votes in Eastligh winning EVERY seat at a time when they were given quite a roasting in the rest of the country) however I really can't see enough of those voters coming out to support them in a by election, especially as a lot of them will be hacked off about the coalition. Also council elections are different and to be fair they do a decent job in Eastleigh and won a lot of votes due to their support of the ongoing gravel pit protests which have been sparked by the Tory run Hampshire County Council. The Lib Dems do have very good grassroot campaigners here though, and the Tories don't. Mind you it's an easy campaign for the Tories this time, just bang on about Huhne being dishonest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Huhne has resigned from the cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 I think that the PM was confident he would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 seems the eastliegh seat is something of a poisoned chalice milligan now Huhne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 The Conservatives have a very personable and able candidate in Maria Hutchings. As mentioned, if Huhne is found guilty and there is a bye-election, the Lib Dems will suffer an electoral backlash similar to those experienced by Stephen Milligan and Mark Oaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Funny how Dune would probably about be screaming about injustice if it was a tory, seeing as he's against speeding cameras/points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Funny how Dune would probably about be screaming about injustice if it was a tory, seeing as he's against speeding cameras/points. It's nothing to do with points or speed cameras, it's about perverting the course of justice, an extremly serious offense. Had he just taken the 3 points, nobody would have batted an eyelid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 It's nothing to do with points or speed cameras, it's about perverting the course of justice, an extremly serious offense. Had he just taken the 3 points, nobody would have batted an eyelid. Surely the seriousness of perverting the course of justice is proportional to the crime you are weaseling out of eg trying to get off a murder charge. Its a total non-story for me, and Im sure the tory elite have been pushing and pushing to get him charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Surely the seriousness of perverting the course of justice is proportional to the crime you are weaseling out of eg trying to get off a murder charge. Its a total non-story for me, and Im sure the tory elite have been pushing and pushing to get him charged. and of course you'd feel exactly the same if he were a Tory, wouldnt you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 and of course you'd feel exactly the same if he were a Tory, wouldnt you ? Pretty much yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 Surely the seriousness of perverting the course of justice is proportional to the crime you are weaseling out of eg trying to get off a murder charge. Its a total non-story for me, and Im sure the tory elite have been pushing and pushing to get him charged. I'm not sure the law sees it that way. If the charge is "perverting the course of justice", any other charges would be dealt with separately, so a defendant would be tried for speeding or murder as a separate charge. He's a f*cking idiot for putting himself and his wife in their current position just to keep his licence imho. (if he dunnit, of course....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 I'm not sure the law sees it that way. If the charge is "perverting the course of justice", any other charges would be dealt with separately, so a defendant would be tried for speeding or murder as a separate charge. He's a f*cking idiot for putting himself and his wife in their current position just to keep his licence imho. (if he dunnit, of course....) Yes, and she's an idiot for blabbing just to get back at him (and put herself in the sh1t too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 Yes, and she's an idiot for blabbing just to get back at him (and put herself in the sh1t too) Hell hath no fury.... In fairness, I dont think we can blame her for being furious to the point of loss of rationality. He exploited his family values for his election campaign, all the time he was knobbing a 6ft lantern-jawed lezza behind their back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 (edited) The Conservatives have a very personable and able candidate in Maria Hutchings. As mentioned, if Huhne is found guilty and there is a bye-election, the Lib Dems will suffer an electoral backlash similar to those experienced by Stephen Milligan and Mark Oaten. Milligan was a Tory - actually a junior minister to the equally upstanding Jonathan Aitken. The 'backlash' from Milligan and his curious death was against Major's absurd 'back to basics' campaign. Edited 5 February, 2012 by Verbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 Hell hath no fury.... In fairness, I dont think we can blame her for being furious to the point of loss of rationality. He exploited his family values for his election campaign, all the time he was knobbing a 6ft lantern-jawed lezza behind their back. Mrs Duck took 3 points for me once in about '98, because I was on 6 and her on 0. The difference is that even if Mrs Duck went to the police it would be hard to prove, it would be my word against her's.Reading between the lines, where he's gone wrong is that there is a paper trail in the form of an email (just given to police by a newspaper), and I also think she had a public speaking event that night miles away from where the pic was taken. He was also proved to be on a flight that landed within the timescales for him to have been driving by that camera at the time of the photo.Being famous, him and wife can be placed in certain areas at certain times, whereas me and Mrs Duck are nobodies that nobody will remember what we were doing at that time. We had our defence lined up, just in case. It was that we weren't 100% sure who was driving, but think it was Mrs Duck.If Huhme's Mrs was speaking miles away, then that defence is lost to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 I guess the BBC will drop her as an economics expert and that will be a shame because she's a very clever lady and very highly thought of in her field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 I was in a court in Southampton where it was proved that the camera partnership had falsified records to obtain a summons. Strangely no one was charged or prosecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 February, 2012 Share Posted 6 February, 2012 I guess the BBC will drop her as an economics expert and that will be a shame because she's a very clever lady and very highly thought of in her field. With no respect for the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 February, 2012 Share Posted 6 February, 2012 Mrs Duck took 3 points for me once in about '98, because I was on 6 and her on 0. The difference is that even if Mrs Duck went to the police it would be hard to prove, it would be my word against her's.Reading between the lines, where he's gone wrong is that there is a paper trail in the form of an email (just given to police by a newspaper), and I also think she had a public speaking event that night miles away from where the pic was taken. He was also proved to be on a flight that landed within the timescales for him to have been driving by that camera at the time of the photo.Being famous, him and wife can be placed in certain areas at certain times, whereas me and Mrs Duck are nobodies that nobody will remember what we were doing at that time. We had our defence lined up, just in case. It was that we weren't 100% sure who was driving, but think it was Mrs Duck.If Huhme's Mrs was speaking miles away, then that defence is lost to them. I think you'll find there was evidence from a phone call or answering machine message too, though who the f**k would keep that for 8 years without a plan to use it is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 February, 2012 Share Posted 6 February, 2012 Milligan was a Tory - actually a junior minister to the equally upstanding Jonathan Aitken. The 'backlash' from Milligan and his curious death was against Major's absurd 'back to basics' campaign. Do you infer that I didn't know that? I actually canvassed for him during his election campaign. As I say, Huhne will suffer a similar electoral backlash to that experienced in the bye-elections after Milligan and Oaten and much will be made of Huhne's election literature purporting him to be a happily married family man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 6 February, 2012 Share Posted 6 February, 2012 Do you infer that I didn't know that? I actually canvassed for him during his election campaign. As I say, Huhne will suffer a similar electoral backlash to that experienced in the bye-elections after Milligan and Oaten and much will be made of Huhne's election literature purporting him to be a happily married family man. I didn't infer; I implied. If you revisit the sentence I was commenting on you'll see why. You canvassed for Milligan?! I guess that's why anonymity exists on discussion forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 February, 2012 Share Posted 6 February, 2012 I didn't infer; I implied. If you revisit the sentence I was commenting on you'll see why. You canvassed for Milligan?! I guess that's why anonymity exists on discussion forums. And for David Price and others. Of course, at the time when Milligan first stood when David Price retired, he was tipped as man with a bright future in politics, but naturally, had I had your prescience and could have forecast how it would all end, then I would have had a different perspective. Much as the Winchester Lib Dems selection panel would have had, if they had known that Oaten had a hankering after rent boys. He was also tipped for the top too. As was Huhne of course and he had gotten as far as challenging for the party leadership. How fickle is the political world when such rising stars can crash to the Earth in such a scandalous way! Must be something in the water down here when two neighbouring constituencies can produce three (if Huhne is found guilty) bye-elections because of their MPs' pecadiloes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 6 February, 2012 Share Posted 6 February, 2012 I think there's been an injustice. Would the police spend the resources it has if you or me had lied about a speeding fine 8 years ago? Do you think they would have investigated it for 8 months? Surely Huhne should be subject to the same levels of police scrutiny as the rest of us, not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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