Saint_clark Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Got absolutely crunched and got straight up off and running. Enough said. Actually, he rolled around in agony and then got up and running as soon as the free-kick was given. Cringed when I saw it, hopefully the rest of the squad tell him to cut it out of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellgirl Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Thought he showed very well considering what he has to adapt to in the English game ,was as pleased with him as I was totally underwhelmed with D.C. I don't really want to see him again unless a dire emergency arrives. Chun I like on early sightings and wish him the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Actually, he rolled around in agony and then got up and running as soon as the free-kick was given. Cringed when I saw it, hopefully the rest of the squad tell him to cut it out of his game. Hope they don't. I usually hate this but was well pleased with Chung's reaction, not quite sure why, just felt that Cardiff were getting a bit of a taste of their own medicine. I don't agree with the OPS's assertion that Lee looks lightweight, but although based on similar amount of playing time I did think Falque looked lightweight. Was pushed off the ball far too easily. But I guess he will adapt to the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Intersting stat earlier about relative weights of Lee and Billy Sharp Assumed Sharp was chunkier Lee received a decent knock down from Ricky neat the end of the game but got nudged off the ball by the, admittedly very sturdy Cardiff CB. Said to my mate at the time that I thought Sharp would have been a bit more robust in the same situation. However agree with other posters that it is not possible to judge a player (especially a foreigner with no English) after one cameo role Hopefully he will do OK after getting used to English football. Have to say I am am far more concerned with the Spurs loanee. He seemed to be a complete loss during the Leicester game and wondered who scouted him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 When I ran on the pitch after the last game of last season, immediately some bloke came over to me and told me I was too fat to ever play for Southampton. I'd only been on the pitch 30 seconds. Dum de dum de doo. There are some people you CAN make snap judgements about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Based on 30 minutes?? Of course Pahars was such a tank. This, Lee could be our next Pahars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 (edited) Did anyone else think Chun looked a little lightweight? Don't get me wrong he showed some nice technique with his touches but just thought he didn't show enough physicality? well I suppose it depends how you classify physicality ..a lovely word which incidentally can be translated as : the quality of being physical rather than emotional or spiritual.. should he have prayed before he came on as sub ?. According to Wiki... Lee is 6 foot tall and (someone else volunteered) weighs 74 kg. Perhaps it was a mistake to sign someone so " puny ". Maybe we should consider ridding the team of the any other " atheistic weaklings ". Sharp was surely a mistake, he's only 5'9"... and weighs even less than Lee. Connolly is another 5'9" half-pint who will be OOC by the summer, and why do we persevere with that 5'7" midget ..Adam Lallana? Some of our previous " goal kings" - were even even shorter and lighter than Lee. Charlie Wayman was 5'8" and only weighed 9½ stone. (107 goals in three seasons)... Derek Reeves was also only 5'8" and only managed 173 goals ! Anyone recall... 1960's hot shot, George O'Brien managed 180 goals in 5 seasons.....he was only 5'6" ! and Terry Paine was only 5'7" .(what a waste of time he must have been)...must have had a lot of luck to get his... 187 goals... Think we might want to wait a bit before condemning the newcomers - don't you?. Remember ..it's not about size, but what you can do with what you have been given... Edited 3 February, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 (edited) No. What were you expecting? The next Uri van Goebell? Any relation to Ulrich van Gobbel? probably his spoon bending brother Edited 2 February, 2012 by Saint Without a Halo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 If you're good enough you're big enough - is what Bally used to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 I thought he looked fine. Again 30mins is no time to judge anyone, and make any rash conclusions on them. But from what I saw, he looks like he has the potential to be really useful for us. Similar seems to have happened to Lee Barnard, he's had what...20mins league action this year? He didn't score, so he's obviously not good enough for this level. Bizarre logic IMO. I have seen that phrase on forum posts so often that I own bizarrelogic.com True story. As for Lee, far too early to be making judgments - especially as I actually haven't seen him play much. Merrington sounded enthusiastic about him on the Solent commentary. It's in everyone's interest that Lee does well, scores goals and makes the first team on a regular basis. Judging by the Japanese press at St Marys, he could generate a huge amount of interest and revenue for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 If you're good enough you're big enough - is what Bally used to say He would, wouldnt he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 There's a lot to be said about heavy bones. Nathanial dyer was 14 stone 8 you know. Some say it was his python some say it was his bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 I've heard George Best described as a light weight. Didn;'t too him much harm... But if he'd been fatter he'd have coped with the drink better to be fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Did anyone else think Chun looked a little lightweight? Don't get me wrong he showed some nice technique with his touches but just thought he didn't show enough physicality? n/t skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 What a load of rubbish. The guy is prob as tall / a bit taller than average, he's also at least of medium weight and yet we have people claiming he's lightweight after seeing him for 20mins or so. I despair at the rubbish some people come out with on here sometimes. I thought he looked bloody lively, bloody keen and what great vision. That's all I could deduce from the relatively small amount of time spent on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Perfect example oh how desperate our moronic fanbase are to write him off already. Before the game, i was saying to a few mates that I was hopeful and really looking forward to seeing a bit of Lee at some point v Cardiff and a fella turns round and say "he was sh*t at Millwall." - I was amazed. I questioned how he could come to that conclusion when he was on the pitch for such a feeble amount of time. "You can see when someone is out of place." Ok. Today, a Saint at work said that he was dissapointed with what he saw v Cardiff, I questioned and said how impressed I had been. "He won't be any good if we go up." I told him he should become a scout if he can asses someone so quickly and that although Lee may be a bit of a gamble, we have brought in Billy Sharp as a proven player. Responce? "Proven at this level, another waste of space if we go up." I left it at that, not going to waste another breath on such a spoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Sounds like a typical saints web member to me. Member being the key word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Absolutely not lightweight. I actually said to my mate he looks anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Grute Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 We have some fans who don't seem to even see the same game! I was actually quite impressed by him and thought he seemed a lot more physical than I expected. Put himself about a bit, really fast and a decent first touch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 A mate always likes to write off players on one appearance (usual joke between us either way as I like to do it with players he's excited about) he said he runs like a headless chicken, worse than de ridder, will be always off side (old papa waigo song again) and wont get anywhere. I thought he looks like he'll be the best player in the league after a few weeks of the team looking up for where he's pointing, running towards and making his own space in the game. I want to stick Guly on with him as I see Lee being on the end of the balls he plays (the ones that half the crowd groan at when no one is on the end). A few weeks and a few games under his belt and we should all see why we appealed the work permit successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 There are some people you CAN make snap judgements about :-D Adkins would have me fit in mere years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Pointless thread started by someone who clearly has no clue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Pointless thread started by someone who clearly has no clue! Everyone is entitled to an opinion......but I agree with you. Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 I am quite large these days, but would be **** up front for saints.... I could punch a few people though, if required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 This 100%. Didn't moan to the ref or player that clattered him. Crazy thread after 30 mins of playing imho ! But it is an interesting question as Lee was bundled off the ball a couple of times but we will just have to wait and see how he fares in English football He looks enthuisiastic and seems to be a trier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Jeeesss what is it with some posters , Lee only been witht he club a few days and already someone is finding fault with lee. LI suggest the original does some research and look at the other japanese/korean players who are playing in various leagues including man united / celtic etc and make a comparison what a knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Chaplow weighs 57kg accoring to OS! That's not even 9st. If that's correct, it would be like having a child out there!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Can we have this thread locked (It is just utter bull-sh*t)!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Sinophobia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Not sure what "lightweight" means anymore. I'm not convinced that height or weight have a lot to do with it. Players built like tanks get accused of it if they don't win headers and are **** on the ball. I've even heard people criticise Aaron Martin for being lightweight despite being about 6 foot 5 and built like a tank. Being short is an advantage when it comes to strength on the ball because of agility and a lower centre of gravity unless of course God made you Rickie Lambert. If "lightweight" means 'not very good' or 'needs to adapt' it would be more relavent to just hear that as senior players are the shape they are and that's unlikely to change a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbul Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Sinophobia PEDANT ALERT!!! He's Japanese.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbul Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Just like to point out that I thought he had good vision and sprung the Cardiff offside trap a couple of times and got himself in acres of space and then had to wait for the rest of the team to catch up. I seem to remember another 'lightweight' that could do this; anyone else remember Eyal Berkovic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 MLT Nathanial dyer was 14 stone 8 you know. Was he weighed when he had all those stolen phones in his pockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 MLT Nathanial dyer was 14 stone 8 you know. Was he weighed when he had all those stolen phones in his pockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenGusBus Posted 3 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Can we have this thread locked (It is just utter bull-sh*t)!!!!!! Agreed lol, let's put this to bed. Just want to say I never thought he was I just heard it from people around me in the stands and wondered whether any of you would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Did anyone else think Chun looked a little lightweight? Don't get me wrong he showed some nice technique with his touches but just thought he didn't show enough physicality?[/QUOTE] Agreed lol, let's put this to bed. Just want to say I never thought he was I just heard it from people around me in the stands and wondered whether any of you would agree. Really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Agreed lol, let's put this to bed. Just want to say I never thought he was I just heard it from people around me in the stands and wondered whether any of you would agree. Other people around you saying it? Did anyone else think Chun looked a little lightweight? Don't get me wrong he showed some nice technique with his touches but just thought he didn't show enough physicality? Who exactly were you quoting then? Why would you post what other people thought? Stick to your guns! Don't back track, try and win everyone over. Like 12 Angry Men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 did anyone else think chun looked a little lightweight? Don't get me wrong he showed some nice technique with his touches but just thought he didn't show enough physicality? you prat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyR Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Emile Heskey, now he's built like a tank, sh1t, falls over a lot, and easily pushed off the ball. Is he lightweight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 So did a little latvian when he arrived and he didnt' do to bad did he... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 I look forward to revisiting this when he's banged in a shed load of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenGusBus Posted 3 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Other people around you saying it? Who exactly were you quoting then? Why would you post what other people thought? Stick to your guns! Don't back track, try and win everyone over. Like 12 Angry Men. To see your reactions to the opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 To see your reactions to the opinion? My question was rhetorical. There was no mention, or even a hint of, other people in your original post. It is/was clearly your opinion.That's all I'm saying, just stick to your guns rather than making up a story about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Well, obviously he's lightweight.. he's Japanese. Forget the height and weight stats, everybody knows they're all short. Just like all Italians are shorter than me. Well actually, in my women's footie league there may be one or two my height, but these general rules sometimes work ;-)... But best to check your facts before posting. Anyway, I've been pushed off the ball by smaller players when I didn't get my weight right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Terry Paine, John Sydenham, Alan Ball, Fred Kemp, Steve Williams, David Connolly, Papa Wiago..... just a few 'light weights' that did good for us There has also been a few heavy weights that were easily knocked off the ball... it's not your stature, it's the determination that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 Terry Paine, John Sydenham, Alan Ball, Fred Kemp, Steve Williams, David Connolly, Papa Wiago..... just a few 'light weights' that did good for us There has also been a few heavy weights that were easily knocked off the ball... it's not your stature, it's the determination that counts. Agree with a lot of those. As highlighted Steve Williams was a pale insipid looking waif of a player. Looked like a waif but was probably one of the toughest players I've ever seen in a Saints Shirt, never shirked a challenge & was always someone you would want in the trenches with you. And then you have Bally, I will always feel privileged to have seen that man in a Saints shirt. He is the epitome of if your good enough your big enough. He was told at an early age he wasn't big enough. What a load of C**K, I hope Tadanari turns out half as good as these players mentioned then he will be a star for us. Lets see how the guy turns out & judge him at the end of the season. Unfortunately we have a society today that wants instant gratification. Anything less than perfect is not good enough, I'll take comfort that most people at the game (including the commentators) were pleased he took a good hit, got straight back up, didn't try to hide & then dished a little out later on himself. I'll try to judge him on his contribution to the cause not his size or weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 What a stupid thread! He's Asian, what did you expect? Same build as local Liam who stands at 6,2 with a sleeve tattoo. He will adjust to the game. Stupid thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 February, 2012 Share Posted 3 February, 2012 What a stupid thread! He's Asian, what did you expect? Same build as local Liam who stands at 6,2 with a sleeve tattoo. He will adjust to the game. Stupid thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 4 February, 2012 Share Posted 4 February, 2012 sign him up, centre back problem solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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