Sour Mash Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Yes, they had a different view of it and definitely saw the Cardiff player impede Davis. Different view of it? I've watched the Saints Player all angles footage. How exactly was he impeded? All that happened is that Davis got stuck behind our defender and their forward. He held his hands up and flapped. A top keeper is normally strong enough to get through a crowd of players and collect the ball, he was stuck on his line. He wasn't dragged down , pushed, tripped or anything else. He's cost us quite a few goals so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 (edited) Glad to see a few others didn't think all the pens were "nailed on". If you had asked me during the match I would've said so of course, but having looked again in the cold light of day.... The way I sometimes try to reflect on reffing decisions after the match is think how would I feel if the teams were reversed... Lambert - I would be massively annoyed if a pen like that was given against Saints. Lallana foul - Would've accepted that one. Handball - Would be a bit ****ed off as have seen players get away with those, but also annoyed with our player for flapping his arms around in the box. Davis- Would have thought the opposition were whinging about nothing. That said, I shouted for all of them at the time and was raging that the Lambert one wasn't given... :-) Edited 2 February, 2012 by Barry the Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 (edited) The pens definitely weren't as stonewall as I first thought on the night. Lambert - Looks a dead cert in real time, looked like the defender dragged him back/down when he got the wrong side. Think the ref would have given it if he was anywhere near it. See them given in the prem regularly, although from the replay it looks like he goes down too easily. Lallana trip - the most obvious of them all IMO. Was definitely a foul, I reckon it would have been given if it wasn't so close to the byline. Lallana cross - Handball, nuff said. You can't block a cross with a flailing arm like that, but they're not always spotted/given Edited 2 February, 2012 by Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 The pens definitely weren't as stonewall as I first thought on the night. Lambert - Looks a dead cert in real time, looked like the defender dragged him back/down when he got the wrong side. Think the ref would have given it if he was anywhere near it. See them given in the prem regularly, although from the replay it looks like he goes down too easily. Lallana trip - the most obvious of them all IMO. Was definitely a foul, I reckon it would have been given if it wasn't so close to the byline. Lallana cross - Handball, nuff said. You can't block a cross with a flailing arm like that, but they're not always spotted/given As someone who sits at the top of the Chapel, the ref had a great view of all three. He only gave the third because he realised from crowd reaction he got the second one badly wrong... You could see him thinking afterwards that he might have got the decision wrong and then the minute the ball hits the defender's hand he blows... couldn't wait to, in fact. I'm not sure how I know this but you'll have to trust me. I've been working in sales and marketing for years with people who specliaise in NLP and body language and sometimes you can just 'know' what's going through someone's mind. That's why I think the first one is nailed on - because our least demonstrative player goes beserk, smashing his hands on the ground. I reckon Rickie had done him, turned him inside out and pulling him down was the only option... But then I am a Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Having watched the replay I don't think the Lambert incident was a penalty. Lallana however - nailed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 As someone who sits at the top of the Chapel, the ref had a great view of all three. But then I am a Saints fan. From the back of the Northam, we had a great view of the Lambert shout. We were absolutely fuming it wasn't given at the time. He had skinned his man and was pulled back. From watching the replays it looked like he went down easily, but the defender DID slow him right down, denying him a shot (goalscoring opportunity). Rules would say a pen and a red card, I just think the ref was weak and the lino gave no help. Was obviously a long way away from the other 2 shouts but knew they good shouts from the crowd reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 From the back of the Northam, we had a great view of the Lambert shout. We were absolutely fuming it wasn't given at the time. He had skinned his man and was pulled back. From watching the replays it looked like he went down easily, but the defender DID slow him right down, denying him a shot (goalscoring opportunity). Rules would say a pen and a red card, I just think the ref was weak and the lino gave no help. Was obviously a long way away from the other 2 shouts but knew they good shouts from the crowd reaction At the time of the foul (as we saw it) Lambert was not actually heading towards goal and therefore not a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 At the time of the foul (as we saw it) Lambert was not actually heading towards goal and therefore not a red. Where was he heading then? West Ham?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Surely, as Lambert had just got past his man, and his next action would have been a shot at goal, he was denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Having watched the replay I don't think the Lambert incident was a penalty. Lallana however - nailed on. Interesting because I came to the opposite conclusion! I thought Lambert was definitely blocked from reaching the ball whereas i felt that Lallana 'made the most' of the challenge on him. Granted, Lallana's LOOKED worse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Where was he heading then? West Ham?? He had cut inside and was heading towards the 'D' on the edge of the penalty area. The Laws state that the player must be heading towards the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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