Avenue Saint Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 Looks like Adkins favours Morgan over Hammond tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 Looks like Adkins favours Morgan over Hammond tonight! that's why Morgan and Corker were rested on Saturday and Hammond wasn't. 2 young players who've played an awful lot of football this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 that's why Morgan and Corker were rested on Saturday and Hammond wasn't. 2 young players who've played an awful lot of football this season. Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 Hammond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 Morgan anytime, Hammond wont be able to handle the prem and Morgan's through balls will be the key for Lee and Sharpe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 Hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 Hammond, he's not the ulimate centre mid for sure but Morgan just doesn't command the middle and our midfield is just a mess when he plays. This! Schneiderlin just "looks" good but rarely actually achieves anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 Morgan has potenital to be a decent prem player, the more he plays better he will become, Hammond is good for last 20-25 mins every game with his energy heading and battling. Lallana MS Cork Puncheon/Guly is a great midfield with Lambert Sharp and Lee as are attacking options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 None of our centre mids drive forward enough. None of them are good at arriving late in the box to get on the end of an attack. All move the ball too slowly going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 None of our centre mids drive forward enough. None of them are good at arriving late in the box to get on the end of an attack. All move the ball too slowly going forward. Welcome back Chaplow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplayer Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 We always miss Hammond when he isn't there. So it's gotta be Hammond for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 We always miss Hammond when he isn't there. So it's gotta be Hammond for me! I have to agree, it's a bit of a trend. We do lack control in the middle of the park without him. He's not very attacking in himself, but he organizes it much better than Morgan and Cork IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 Welcome back Chaplow.... He was playing out of his skin before his injury - there are no guarantees that he will find the same form. Inconsistency has seemed to follow his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 He was playing out of his skin before his injury - there are no guarantees that he will find the same form. Inconsistency has seemed to follow his career. I think we'll have to wait a few weeks before he regains that level, but he was playing at the level he did with Burnley - and I see no reason why he cannot continue that when he's fully fit, he's got all the talent in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 None of our centre mids drive forward enough. None of them are good at arriving late in the box to get on the end of an attack. All move the ball too slowly going forward. It was bloody dire last night. If Cork or Schneiderlin turned and played backwards or sideways once they did it a hundred times. The central midfield is supposed to be the engine room of the team. Schneiderlin doesn't get tight, doesn't pressure the opposition, plays in a sloppy comfort zone, makes a lot of passes for the sake of it. Last night from the start Cardiff came to snatch a goal and run the clock down, our central midfield played sideways and backwards and allowed Cardiff to compact in front of us stifle the attackers so we never really created clearcut chances. Schneiderlin and high tempo don't match up, he is basically a stroller and looks pretty but his end product is minimal. Cork can do a lot better and with Hammond does provide energy but no attacking threat. I never thought I'd ever say this but I was mightily impressed by the overall effort and quality provided by Puncheon, initially wide but especially when he moved infield. I personally would put him in central midfield with Hammond or Cork with Chaplow wide, with options of Guly and DeRidder and Lallana on the left side with Sharp and Lambert up front. All three, Schneiderlin, Hammond and Cork build up too slowly and don't really threaten by breaking forward with the ball preferring to pass sideways and backwards. We can only afford one of them in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 I have to agree, it's a bit of a trend. We do lack control in the middle of the park without him. He's not very attacking in himself, but he organizes it much better than Morgan and Cork IMO. Not sure - we've gone to places like Burnley and have lost the midfield battle with Hammond in the side until Schneiderlin has come on. He's allowed to us keep possession better and stretch opposing midfields which have gone quite narrow by spreading play. Hammond adds a bit of bustle but there's more than one way to win the midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 It was bloody dire last night. If Cork or Schneiderlin turned and played backwards or sideways once they did it a hundred times. The central midfield is supposed to be the engine room of the team. Schneiderlin doesn't get tight, doesn't pressure the opposition, plays in a sloppy comfort zone, makes a lot of passes for the sake of it. Last night from the start Cardiff came to snatch a goal and run the clock down, our central midfield played sideways and backwards and allowed Cardiff to compact in front of us stifle the attackers so we never really created clearcut chances. Schneiderlin and high tempo don't match up, he is basically a stroller and looks pretty but his end product is minimal. Cork can do a lot better and with Hammond does provide energy but no attacking threat. I never thought I'd ever say this but I was mightily impressed by the overall effort and quality provided by Puncheon, initially wide but especially when he moved infield. I personally would put him in central midfield with Hammond or Cork with Chaplow wide, with options of Guly and DeRidder and Lallana on the left side with Sharp and Lambert up front. All three, Schneiderlin, Hammond and Cork build up too slowly and don't really threaten by breaking forward with the ball preferring to pass sideways and backwards. We can only afford one of them in midfield. Agree thought Punch and we looked much better when he moved more central and drove from deep. Its something that Pards also experimented with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 Agree thought Punch and we looked much better when he moved more central and drove from deep. Its something that Pards also experimented with. He played central for MK Dons at times. Therefore he is comfortable there. He could be the answer. We have been worked out and he would add something new especially with Sharp up front. We have to be more aggressive and positive, get back to the quick penetrative pass and move, and try to go out and win not just try contain by passing sideways and backwards and snatch a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 It was bloody dire last night. If Cork or Schneiderlin turned and played backwards or sideways once they did it a hundred times. The central midfield is supposed to be the engine room of the team. Schneiderlin doesn't get tight, doesn't pressure the opposition, plays in a sloppy comfort zone, makes a lot of passes for the sake of it. Last night from the start Cardiff came to snatch a goal and run the clock down, our central midfield played sideways and backwards and allowed Cardiff to compact in front of us stifle the attackers so we never really created clearcut chances. Schneiderlin and high tempo don't match up, he is basically a stroller and looks pretty but his end product is minimal. Cork can do a lot better and with Hammond does provide energy but no attacking threat. I never thought I'd ever say this but I was mightily impressed by the overall effort and quality provided by Puncheon, initially wide but especially when he moved infield. I personally would put him in central midfield with Hammond or Cork with Chaplow wide, with options of Guly and DeRidder and Lallana on the left side with Sharp and Lambert up front. All three, Schneiderlin, Hammond and Cork build up too slowly and don't really threaten by breaking forward with the ball preferring to pass sideways and backwards. We can only afford one of them in midfield. Absolutely nail on head for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 And for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splurty Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 hammond all day long - morgan is a stand in at bestspot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 I've always thought the three of them (Cork, Deano and Morgan) are maybe too similar in style which is why we sometimes get this sideways passing like we did in the first half against Cardiff. Not to mention the lack of goals from CM is pathetic really for a top 2 team (is it 4 goals between them?). If we were in the Prem I would like to see Morgan or Cork sitting deep and dictating the passing play alongside a goal scoring MF. Definitely a weakness in my eyes. Hammond would not be good enough in the Prem for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 I really think it depends on which team we're playing. If it's hard away fixture then I'd go for Hammond as he is a bit tougher in the tackle, however, Schneiderlin is a better ball player and more creative... but can't seem to tackle anyone fairly. Most of the Y/R cards are dished out to midfielders who are in more of the action. Hammond picked up two yellows in the Reading game, but Schneiderlin doesn't seem to have the same guile without alerting the ref. to his sometimes crude tackling. He been suspended once already for 5 yellows and missed the Brighton game, but he has now picked up 3 yellows in his last 6 appearances ! . Whilst Hammond is older- he is better defensively (IMO), I do hope Schneiderlin can improve his defensive game and learn how to tackle 50/50... without getting booked every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 He was playing out of his skin before his injury - there are no guarantees that he will find the same form. Inconsistency has seemed to follow his career. regaining form after a long lay-off is very difficult. When players have had a good " pre-season " and start off (as we did)... like a rocket - it's great. It may take time before we see the "agressive attacking Chaplow" back in form, but surely for £50K, he's repaid whatever we've invested in him already. Wish the same could be said for some of the others we have on the books . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 Think most people would agree with me that cork should start always.. That leaves one more CM position availible.. would you have Hammond or Schneiderlin? Personally I prefer Hammond.. Seeing as we've strengthened everywhere other than centre midfield since signing Cork, I'd be inclined to say neither of them, and it's a key position where we'd need to add quality if we get up. Having added players pretty much in line with where I hoped in January, in the event of Premier League football next season, I'd want us to add: New starting GK ahead of Davis Competition for Richardson at RB (this could possibly be Jack Stephens) as Butterfield is struggling At least one more CB with Prem experience to replace Jaidi who is likely to retire / out of contract and maybe a second to replace Seaborne maybe another LB depending on Harding's ability to step up / someone to replace Dickson who is likely to be sold. At least one more CM to challenge / replace Schneiderlin/Hammond/Cork A striker with Premier League experience to replace Barnard. Not asking much, I think we'd settle for a GK, CB, CM and CF as I originally thought, but there are a lot of unknown factors, like how many of the current squad get shipped out or automatic contract renewals on promotion... again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 Morgan....he's looking far more dangerous than Hammond nowadays,getting into the box,taking shots,even had a headed attempt the other day,plus with Sharp AND Lambert there's going to be a lot of stuff rolling around on the edge of the box. Not that likely that Schneiderlin's going to play the support striker/attacking midfield role he's had in some away games this season again though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 1 February, 2012 Share Posted 1 February, 2012 I'm saying Hammond! Only because I like him, morgan the better player tho : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 February, 2012 Share Posted 2 February, 2012 Not that likely that Schneiderlin's going to play the support striker/attacking midfield role he's had in some away games this season again though... I really don't know, noticed on the video of Tuesday's game that he was following up on a few of our shots at goal,first half, then we changed the system because Cardiff were 4-1-4-1 and he was further back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Cream always rises to the top... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 If it's a choice between the two, Morgan....always. Hammond is not the future of our midfield and IMO will be one of the first from this squad to go in the summer. This season however, I anticipate that NA will continue to rotate the midfield pairing now that the wings are largely covered. Right as usual I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Goes to show the average fan knows very little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 January, 2013 Share Posted 26 January, 2013 Goes to show the average fan knows very little Also goes to show that others get it spot on... "Morgan is the future, I suspect Hammond may not be with us when we play in the PL" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now