Minty Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 I believe we are looking at 2 defenders called Steve Harrold and Brian Shipman. Make of this what you will. Stop murdering the thread.
RonManager Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 I believe we are looking at 2 defenders called Steve Harrold and Brian Shipman. Make of this what you will. Geoff Spongebob and Colin Squarepants. Make of this what you etc etc etc......
Dig Dig Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Bart Holmes Fox Guly Puncheon DC Reeves Harding Ward-Prowse Forte Sharp
London Saint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Well England once had Phil Babb and Nicky Butt in the same side...you only needed Boon playing in between them and hey presto!
laughba Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Davis Richardson hooiveld fonte fox Chaplow Hammond Cork Lallana . Lee/Sharp Lambert
Hatch Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Possibly because it's not funny, but in the interests of education, I believe the reference is to ex-Man U and Leeds striker Lee Sharpe, and the fact that we could have (Tadanari) Lee (Billy) Sharp playing for us... Ho, ho, and indeed: Ho. aaah, i see now.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Guly's days are numbered. That is all. Disagree, he certainly won't get as many starts, but still think he'll play a fair bit.
Lighthouse Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Geoff Spongebob and Colin Squarepants. Make of this what you etc etc etc...... Colin Squarepants? Another left back FFS!
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Guly's days are numbered. That is all. Yep, can be very good on his day, but a pretty bloody awful footballer when he's not having a good day. A 'bit part' player from now on methinks. And I must add that I wouldn't be the least surprised to see Jonathon Forte, Lee Barnard, and David Connelly all out of the club by the end of the summer. Football is a brutally harsh business that leaves precious little room for sentiment I'm afraid, even when at least two of those players have made significant contributions to getting the club where it is today.
The Majestic Channon Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Well England once had Phil Babb and Nicky Butt in the same side...you only needed Boon playing in between them and hey presto! Phil babb played for the republic of ireland
MorningtonCrescent Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Possibly because it's not funny, but in the interests of education, I believe the reference is to ex-Man U and Leeds striker Lee Sharpe, and the fact that we could have (Tadanari) Lee (Billy) Sharp playing for us... Ho, ho, and indeed: Ho. I hadn't noticed that! ;-)
Minty Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 I hadn't noticed that! ;-) You need to raise your standards. I expect better from you. Or do I? ;-)
aintforever Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Guly's days are numbered. That is all. I don't think so, we now have the option of playing him on the right like at the start of the season when we were smashing teams all over the place.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Very interesting to see Sharp come in. I am currently managing Saints in Fifa 11, currently sat at 2nd place in NPC and have just signed Sharp in the January window. Started him early January and already he has scored more than Lambert. True story - make of it what you will.
DrunkenSaint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Morgan & Chaplow in the middle....gulp....paper thin defensively ....better to let Chaplow run around out wide where we dont need the discipline of holding our shape as much. Morgan needs a grafter along side him i.e Cork. Chaplow on the right. I'm pretty sure we beat West Ham with Chappers and Morgan in the centre. (Without Chaplow): Davies Richardson Fonte Hooiveld Fox Guly Hammond Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert Subs: Bilko, Martin, Morgan, Lee, SDR, Your insane thinking Guly is a right midfielder, SDR and Punch is better than him in that position. Defence i agree with... SDR Morgan Cork Lallana Sharp Lambo I wouldn't even have Guly on the bench going from his form atm oh and it's going to get even colder so Guly wont be any good this month anyway, he hibernates during the winter.
Leicestersaint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 I'm pretty sure we beat West Ham with Chappers and Morgan in the centre. Your insane thinking Guly is a right midfielder, SDR and Punch is better than him in that position. Defence i agree with... SDR Morgan Cork Lallana Sharp Lambo I wouldn't even have Guly on the bench going from his form atm oh and it's going to get even colder so Guly wont be any good this month anyway, he hibernates during the winter. I think you're a bit crazy starting with SDR. Guly is our second top scorer.
Lighthouse Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 I think you're a bit crazy starting with SDR. Guly is our second top scorer. Guly has 2 goals from midfield this season. De Ridder has 4.
Minty Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 This thread now has official permission to proceed... lol
DrunkenSaint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Guly has 2 goals from midfield this season. De Ridder has 4. Thank you, least someone else knows the stats. Guly has been carried for too long now, SDR gives us pace, width and is willing to fight for the ball, Guly goes missing in the winter and now with Lee and Sharpe bought in and Punch is back and looking good and Chappers back in light training, Guly's days are numbered during the winter at least.
alpine_saint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 lol - just to point out, Sharp's not signed yet. Let's not go counting our chickens quite yet...... Worry ye not..
Lighthouse Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Thank you, least someone else knows the stats. Guly has been carried for too long now, SDR gives us pace, width and is willing to fight for the ball, Guly goes missing in the winter and now with Lee and Sharpe bought in and Punch is back and looking good and Chappers back in light training, Guly's days are numbered during the winter at least. I disagree about Guly's days being numbered. He is still a decent striker at this level, but he isn't a midfielder IMO. I remember frequent complaints about his poor work ethic in midfield and he often left our right back exposed making runs into the box and then casually tracking back. I honnestly think Rasiak would be the nearest Saints comparison in recent years. Good finisher and good with his head, but his attitude can be a little 'casual' at times. A useful player to have, but I'd no sooner play Guly RM than I'd have played Rasiak three. Guly is a decent striker, but Puncheon and De Ridder are both far superior on the wing IMO.
saints-cris Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 With Chaplow and Puncheon coming back, Falque, Lee and Sharp.. we have some serious squad depth! I dont even know what team Id pick. If we win tommorow night the feel good factor is gunna be awesome
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 With Chaplow and Puncheon coming back, Falque, Lee and Sharp.. we have some serious squad depth! I dont even know what team Id pick. If we win tommorow night the feel good factor is gunna be awesome this! reckon we have the best attacking squad of players south of the top 12 premiership!
david in sweden Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 (edited) Sorry but what's your point here? That we may not be able to pick our best 11 every week due to injuries? I think most people agree with the "best side " on paper but compare it with those available just now; Chaplow, Fonte and Hooiveld on the injured list, and to be fair, Lallana has been injured and was a little below par in recent games. I think I might go along with the majority of selections already, but it's likely to be some weeks before we see those players, match fit and in form to play. In the meantime, I'm glad we've got finally the two strikers, but we still need things sorted put at the back. Hope NA comes up with someone tomorrow. Edited 30 January, 2012 by david in sweden
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 I think most people agree with the "best side " on paper but compare it with those available just now; Chaplow, Fonte and Hooiveld on the injured list, and to be fair, Lallana has been injured and was a little below par in recent games. I think I might go along with the majority of selections already, but it's likely to be some weeks before we see those players, match fit and in form to play. Fonte and Chaplow both trained today and I expect Fonte will start tomorrow.
SuperMikey Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 We've definitely got some selection problems now...
ottery st mary Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 (edited) Davies Richardson Fonte Hooiveld Fox Chaplow Hammond Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert The team if all fit I would start with.....Saved me typing...thank you. If Chappers and Adam injured still.....Lee and Puncheon on the flanks... Edited 30 January, 2012 by ottery st mary
lethallee Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Davis Richardson Fonte Hooiveld Fox Chaplow Hammond/Morgan Puncheon Lallana Lambert Sharp
david in sweden Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Fonte and Chaplow both trained today and I expect Fonte will start tomorrow. well thats good news - if it happens !
dellbert Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 I think people are premature in writing off Guly, maybe that's because many of them are blind to his abilities while they rave about Lallana even though he has been poor for quite a while now. I think Guly will be a big part of NA's plans!
sandwichsaint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Where's Jack Cork in all of this? One of our very best players in the first part of the season and looked genuine PL class, worryingly inconsistent since then. Well chuffed with Sharp and Lee (once I've seen him play) but we are still left with 3 fairly similar midfielders now playing for one or two places. Reckon we will see an awful lot of rotation across the middle with: Deano, MS, JC, AL, JP, Gully, Falque, Chappers and SDR (and Holmes and the yoof) competing for 4 starting places and two spots on the bench. Effectively we can rotate our midfield pack every game without losing very much at all - if we can pull this off and maintain consistency it will be massively to our advantage. Have a hunch that Hammond will start most games in the centre; a fit AL is a given, interesting to see where we go from there?
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 (edited) Where's Jack Cork in all of this? One of our very best players in the first part of the season and looked genuine PL class, worryingly inconsistent since then. Well chuffed with Sharp and Lee (once I've seen him play) but we are still left with 3 fairly similar midfielders now playing for one or two places. Reckon we will see an awful lot of rotation across the middle with: Deano, MS, JC, AL, JP, Gully, Falque, Chappers and SDR (and Holmes and the yoof) competing for 4 starting places and two spots on the bench. Effectively we can rotate our midfield pack every game without losing very much at all - if we can pull this off and maintain consistency it will be massively to our advantage. Have a hunch that Hammond will start most games in the centre; a fit AL is a given, interesting to see where we go from there? have to disagree. Think we will start to see less of Hammond now in the (hopeful) run up to prem. Definately can't see him as a regular starter that is for sure. Agree with the ainticipated rotation though. We have a special squad now. Edited 30 January, 2012 by Avenue Saint
BlakeySFC Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 (edited) Davis Richardson Fonte Hooiveld Fox Chaplow Puncheon Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert Edited 30 January, 2012 by BlakeySFC
Dig Dig Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Davis Richardson Fonte Hoovield Fox Guly Morgan Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert Subs: Bart Martin Lee SDR Puncheon
Roger Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Chaplow isnt as effective in the middle, puncheon will be good on right aswell. Guly is very good for me and is a great player to have around.
sandwichsaint Posted 30 January, 2012 Posted 30 January, 2012 Hammond starting? Our weakest midfielder Where are you getting that from? Vital cog for me - regularly picks up an un-noticed 7 and gets his share of 8's too - his problem (a little like Gully) is when he has one, he absolutely has one cf Leicester last week (just like MS, just like Cork, just like Conno, just like Gully did etc etc etc). I bet NA keeps count and I bet Hammond's season avg over all games is equal to that of MS or JC. Personally I have no beef either way, just saying my personal hunch is that NA will continue to play him; if he does I hope we will all get behind him cos I don't recognise him as our weakest midfielder and I wouldn't have thought NA does either - tho looking at Saturday's selection we could see a MS/JC combo tomorrow tonight LOL!
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 Davis Richardson Fonte Hooiveld Fox Chaplow Puncheon Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert That's an interesting one and closer to my view - though surely you would want to swap Cork and Chaplow around - Cork is the more defensive holding player, Chaplow the box-to-box player. Another similar possibility might be this: ........................Davis......................... Richardson....Fonte....Hooiveld.........Fox .........................Cork......................... ..........Guly.......Chaplow......Lallana...... ..................Sharp.....Lambert..............
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 Of course, we could just forget about defence and go for something like this: Puncheon DeRidder Connolly Holmes Reeves Guly Barnard Lallana Sharp Lambert Lee Reeves gets the nod over Ward-Prowse as he used to be a defender and is now a striker-cum-winger, whereas Ward-Prowse has always been a midfielder. As for Puncheon in goal, hasn't he had experience there already? Or did I imagine that?
SCraze Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 Right back is an issue - Richardson and Butterfield are nowhere good enough to play in the Prem - go for Nathaniel Clyne - fits the young, loads of potential, English, athletic model
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 Right back is an issue - Richardson and Butterfield are nowhere good enough to play in the Prem - go for Nathaniel Clyne - fits the young, loads of potential, English, athletic model We're in the Championship. HTH
SCraze Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 Better to bed in players now to hit next season running whether promotion is achieved or not than wait for the summer - Clynes out of contract at the end of the season anyway...
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 Right back is an issue - Richardson and Butterfield are nowhere good enough to play in the Prem - go for Nathaniel Clyne - fits the young, loads of potential, English, athletic model People said right back was a problem in the summer. In fact people said Lambert wouldn't do it at this level. How many people would have expected Russell Martin to be performing very well for Norwich in the premier league? Exactly. With the right coaching he is a very very capable player, as we've seen this year. Probably what I'd call our ''unglamorous'' player of the year so far.
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 Davis Richardson Fonte Hooiveld Fox Chaplow Puncheon Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert Chaplow is bloody awful in CM, a red card waiting to happen.He's not even a defensive player, needs to be in an attacking role where his poor tackling and control lapses can be covered by the real CMs.
St Chalet Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 With everyone fit and available it is a really difficult to pick. Personally: Davis Richardson Hooiveld Fonte Harding Puncheon Chaplow Schneiderlin Lallana Sharp Lambert Bench - Bart, Fox, Cork, Lee, Guly
Avenue Saint Posted 31 January, 2012 Posted 31 January, 2012 With everyone fit and available it is a really difficult to pick. Personally: Davis Richardson Hooiveld Fonte Harding Puncheon Chaplow Schneiderlin Lallana Sharp Lambert Bench - Bart, Fox, Cork, Lee, Guly agree with this. toss up at left back but otherwise my first 11 too.
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2012 Posted 1 February, 2012 (Without Chaplow): Davies Richardson Fonte Hooiveld Fox Guly Hammond Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert Subs: Bilko, Martin, Morgan, Lee, SDR, More or less agree, the problem is the RM position, where we seem to have huge competition : Guly Puncheon Chaplow SDR (Who for me is behind the other 3) I would give Puncheon a couple more starting slots to see if his sharpening-up with more matches under his belt has an impact, put Chaplow on the bench to get a bit more recovery time, have Guly, Lee and Sharp rotate up-front, and drop SDR, unfortunately. the 5 subs is a real pain, because I would also like to see space for Harding on the bench too.
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