alderholt saints Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 According to the non league paper saints have won the race to sign foward Jamie Vardy from Fleetwood.We will loan him back to them till the end of the season.He is a good goalscorer on the non league scene , time will till if he can do at a higher level , if the story is right.
Appy Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 According to the non league paper saints have won the race to sign foward Jamie Vardy from Fleetwood.We will loan him back to them till the end of the season.He is a good goalscorer on the non league scene , time will till if he can do at a higher level , if the story is right. Dunno how loaning him back would help us in the slightest.
Colinjb Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 25 years old and prolific in non-league. A bit of an odd one on the face of it though.
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 If anything, this is probably a signing for the development squad and is nothing to do with the first team. Hence the loan back.
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 At 25?? Good point, didn't realise he was that old. No idea then. Odd.
beavis17 Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 According to the non league paper saints have won the race to sign foward Jamie Vardy from Fleetwood.We will loan him back to them till the end of the season.He is a good goalscorer on the non league scene , time will till if he can do at a higher level , if the story is right. Strange one. I know Prem clubs have been linked but not exactly one to excite the fans. Out of interest what does the story say exactly? How reliable is this Non-League paper normally?
alderholt saints Posted 29 January, 2012 Author Posted 29 January, 2012 Is a bit strange i agree, but the lad is a natural goalscorer if true. Seen him play a couple of times for Fleetwood and Halifax and he can score goals , the reason the paper gives for loaning him back, is Fleetwood want him so they can gain promotion to the football league.
Colinjb Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Trying to look for positives here, how old was Ian Wright when he was snapped up by Crystal Palace? About 21/22?
Appy Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 I can't see us agreeing to loan him back, who cares if Fleetwood get promoted?
Colinjb Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 I can't see us agreeing to loan him back, who cares if Fleetwood get promoted? I would guess his existing employer.
Appy Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 I would guess his existing employer. Ha, i meant on this board.
Stu Man Do Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11728/7422134/Seasiders-snubbed-in-Vardy-bid I know its not a link for us but this is a couple of weeks old ... 750K for a non league striker and that was rejected. Hate to think what sort of crazy figure they've put on him! Just shows how mental the transfer system has gotten in this country when you consider we spent about that on Barnard who had 20+ goals in the 3rd division that season!
Crab Lungs Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Plenty of decent players in non-league... Chris Smalling, Michael Kightly etc...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Plenty of decent players in non-league... Chris Smalling, Michael Kightly etc... Doesn't normally take them to reach the age of 25 before moving into league football though.
VectisSaint Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Thought Blackpool had already done a deal, clearly not. Lots of people (including Celtic, Rangers, Blaclpool and Palace) were after him but the Fleetwood owner is only willing to let him leave permanently at the end of the season, hence the loan back arrangement. Palace had offered £700k evidently. Holloway was very fulsome in his praise
Crab Lungs Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Doesn't normally take them until the age of 25 to move into league football though. You're right. At 25, he's finished, past it. Withdraw the bid immediately.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 You're right. At 25, he's finished, past it. I didn't say that.
SB Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 'Odd' is defiantly the word.. If he was 19-21 then I could understand, but 25? Hm.
NickG Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/294045-celtic-and-rangers-target-jamie-vardy-unconcerned-by-transfer-talk/
Painswick Saint Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Saw him play yesterday for Fleetwood against Forest Green Rovers. Looked good for a Blue Square Premier player, but there is a massive gap between the 'conference' and the Championship. As has already been said, strange if true, especially at the age of 25
CanadaSaint Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 I watched the whole of the Fleetwood vs Blackpool tie and was most impressed with him. I think he's more than capable of stepping up several levels, especially when he's surrounded by better players than he's playing with right now.
thorpie the sinner Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 We are up to post 24 without a link, come on boys!!!! Also loaning him back, mmmm!! That must mean we still need a striker! Any other threads I can go to?
SuperSAINT Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 I watched the whole of the Fleetwood vs Blackpool tie and was most impressed with him. I think he's more than capable of stepping up several levels, especially when he's surrounded by better players than he's playing with right now. Is he quick?
CanadaSaint Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Is he quick? He's certainly not slow but speed isn't his primary quality. He's two-footed and will go inside or outside, reading the defender as he takes him on. He's also good in the air, full of running, and quite physical - not easily pushed off the ball. I was impressed enough to throw his name out in the "official unofficial January transfer targets thread" back on January 9 so I'm really pleased to read this (unconfirmed) report. We've spent a million or more on players with far, far less potential than this guy.
Saints4Prem Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 As Celtic were interested we are probably buying him to do a PX deal for Hooper
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Stuart Fleetwood immediately springs to mind.
Appy Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Stuart Fleetwood immediately springs to mind. Is he the team's founder?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Can we check NA's offshore accounts? Any payments to Fleetwood ala saggy and Oxford? Mums the word......
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Doesn't normally take them to reach the age of 25 before moving into league football though. I give you Man City's Tony Book who was 30ish when leaving non-league
Matthew Le God Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 I give you Man City's Tony Book who was 30ish when leaving non-league That was 48 years ago!
toofarnorth Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Stuart Fleetwood immediately springs to mind. Just what i was thinking. Not sure where he is now.
Appy Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Just what i was thinking. Not sure where he is now. Luton apparently.
saints-cris Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Didn't Blackpool bid 750k for him very recently?
Winchester Red Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 (edited) I wonder if other clubs fans have as little trust in their manager and chairman as ours do. 'I've given it 5 seconds thought and I can't see why they've done this therefore (even though they've been through the whole process on this player) NA and NC are wrong and crap and...........' Makes me want puke (Sorry to group everyone in that rant, obviously some of you don't make pathetic instant reactions..... I guess you could call that a pathetic reaction by me ) Edited 29 January, 2012 by Winchester Red
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Luton apparently. Yep and Fleetwood was five years younger when he went to Charlton and did have a good football education with Cardiff. Vardy has no such background. Fleetwood Town want a big price for him, and that's probably the only reason League One and Two clubs haven't gone for him.
Itchen_block4 Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 How old is Matt Tubbs, 27/28? A bit of a non-league journeyman before going to Crawley and banging goals in for them. People obviously see a lot in this Vardy lad, hence the interest. Never seen him play, but heard good things about the lad.
smackalec Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 A Weymouth fan I work with who seems to know lots about non league football was telling me that 1. Fleetwood are loaded and that Vardy was good enough to play for England 1 day.
Littlelat17 Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Charlie Austin... Poole Town to Swindon ok he was 19/20 Matt Tubbs was 26 when he went from... Salisbury to Crawley and although he only stepped up a couple of leagues at first, hes showing he can still score against higher league clubs. There are talents out there who may not get the break into league football til late, so although a gamble - isnt every transfer!?
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 How old is Matt Tubbs, 27/28? A bit of a non-league journeyman before going to Crawley and banging goals in for them. People obviously see a lot in this Vardy lad, hence the interest. Never seen him play, but heard good things about the lad. Having had the benefit of seeing Matt Tubbs about three or four years ago on loan for Bournemouth, I can tell you that he can be bloody awful. I think he's doing well at Crawley because he's surrounded by players that are above and beyond the average quality of League Two teams. Crawley rendered the Conference uncompetitive last season thanks to their spending (which as it happens, will stop at the end of this season because their gate receipts aren't good enough, as they have admitted themselves) and I say that with 100% confidence. I interviewed an AFC Wimbledon player last season who said that from day one no one was ever going to catch Crawley. Their wage bill was huge and they had massive strength in depth. Vardy may well be a prospect and yes there are examples of good players coming from non league. But most of them have dropped into non-league, not started there, and £1 million? Absurd if you ask me, all those prospects I talk about signed for league teams for non league money. Look at Tony Cascarino, signed for some corrugated steel and some tracksuits! Millwall had let him go as a kid, proving the whole dropping into non-league point. I'm quite sceptical about this, and for good reason, once you look hard enough at the situation.
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Charlie Austin... Poole Town to Swindon ok he was 19/20 Matt Tubbs was 26 when he went from... Salisbury to Crawley and although he only stepped up a couple of leagues at first, hes showing he can still score against higher league clubs. There are talents out there who may not get the break into league football til late, so although a gamble - isnt every transfer!? Let go by Reading allegedly because of disciplinary problems. One word from an academy manager and you may never play professional football again, so it may well have been the case something happened at Reading, they got rid, people warned against him signing and he was forced to go into non league. Another one for dropping into non league camp.
CanadaSaint Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 I'm quite sceptical about this, and for good reason, once you look hard enough at the situation. Have you seen him play CD?
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Looks to have decent pace, gets himself into decent positions etc. But the defending in that clip is just pathetic.
SuperSAINT Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Looks to have decent pace, gets himself into decent positions etc. But the defending in that clip is just pathetic. I know. Good to get at least a little peak at what he can do though. Who knows whether it's true or not. It's a touch disappointing after the Hooper link, but with that said, the level of clubs interested in the lad means he must have something about him. Holloway does have a good eye for a player, too.
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 I know. Good to get at least a little peak at what he can do though. Who knows whether it's true or not. It's a touch disappointing after the Hooper link, but with that said, the level of clubs interested in the lad means he must have something about him. Holloway does have a good eye for a player, too. So does Adkins in terms of forwards tbf. Hooper, Hayes, Keogh, Sharp....all brought through/brought by him IIRC.
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 January, 2012 Posted 29 January, 2012 Have you seen him play CD? Once or twice, yes.
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