jasonb Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 No I am Nicola Cortese! No, I'm Nicloa Cortese and so's my wife! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 No, I'm Nicloa Cortese and so's my wife! No I am only joking, I am not really, no put me back up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Interesting & welcome news about the centre half if accurate. However, I still doubt the authenticity of the Hooper acquisition. I truly hope my distrust is misplaced. Everything points to the Hooper fiasco as being a fan appeasing exercise; cleverly strung out until Tues night (window shuts) as a smoke screen to cover the club's unwillingness to spend while making it seem as though we are. Same as last window. Puncheon move & total lack of early, decisive action & spending re-enforces that belief. Of course, many will deem that prudent business & intimations of the like but my instincts suggest otherwise. When has that ever happened cetainly not under Cortese and I do not remember it under the Dark T**T Lowe or going back to 'I sell not buy' Askham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Brozek Seems like a replacement for Hooper by the sounds of it... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11787/7464762/Lennon-confirms-Brozek-capture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Very interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!Brozek Seems like a replacement for Hooper by the sounds of it... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11787/7464762/Lennon-confirms-Brozek-capture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Now you see I read this as, we have another striker in case of injury or suspension, but we are going to get another one in so we can shift one on! Still do not think it will be to us if the get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Itsa notta me, I ama not thees Cortese chap you speek off. Ciao. No, its quite clear that you are in fact Paolo di Canio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 I think this is connected. Celtic have been shopping around for a striker ever since the talk about Hooper started. They will have wanted to get his replacement in before letting him go. This may be his replacement. If so, the Hooper transfer might be on. Or maybe I'm just being optimistic! Pretty sure they have been looking for a striker since well before the Hooper speculation started. Its possible the two things are connected by doubt it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Interesting & welcome news about the centre half if accurate. However, I still doubt the authenticity of the Hooper acquisition. I truly hope my distrust is misplaced. Everything points to the Hooper fiasco as being a fan appeasing exercise; cleverly strung out until Tues night (window shuts) as a smoke screen to cover the club's unwillingness to spend while making it seem as though we are. Same as last window. Puncheon move & total lack of early, decisive action & spending re-enforces that belief. Of course, many will deem that prudent business & intimations of the like but my instincts suggest otherwise. The wonderful thing about conspiracy theories is that there is no way of proving them wrong. I think that we should have special conspiracy theories thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 The wonderful thing about conspiracy theories is that there is no way of proving them wrong. I think that we should have special conspiracy theories thread. Get it started quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Yep. Exactly what an ex player told me in hospitality last week. No danger of going bust, but limited funds to spend. Does NC share the club's financial position with ex-players? Only asking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Dalek & Alpine! what's the other one? Dune! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 That would make him his own worst enemy. A fair summation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 (edited) The wonderful thing about conspiracy theories is that there is no way of proving them wrong. I think that we should have special conspiracy theories thread. That is a brilliant idea, I'm all for it. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?35482-Conspiracy-theories-thread Edited 29 January, 2012 by scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Does NC share the club's financial position with ex-players? Only asking! No idea but he seemed pretty certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 When has that ever happened cetainly not under Cortese and I do not remember it under the Dark T**T Lowe or going back to 'I sell not buy' Askham I don't know, sounds quite distrusting re-reading, but I still stand by my viewpoint. Maybe those tw*ts Askham & Lowe & their insidious actions have tarnished my ability to ever trust our chairmen but in the world of football & business at large, it's all about playing the customer. We'll never hear the honest true when it doesn't fit the agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 No idea but he seemed pretty certain. Many people with past association will often seem authoritative but they may not be in the current loops. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 The wonderful thing about conspiracy theories is that there is no way of proving them wrong. I think that we should have special conspiracy theories thread. Good plan. We could stick it above the forum. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 January, 2012 Share Posted 29 January, 2012 Good plan. We could stick it above the forum. LOL So just because I choose not to go along with your random postulations (any evidence for any of them btw) that means that I am easily pacified and not a critical thinker? H'mmm - note to self - you really must go along with all theories put up on this board and completely disregard the minor detail of actual evidence. Must do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 January, 2012 Share Posted 30 January, 2012 Many people with past association will often seem authoritative but they may not be in the current loops. Just saying. I'm fully aware of that. Someone offered a theory about saint's financial situation and I was just saying that a similar thing was relayed to me last week. Individuals can take whatever they like from it. I can't say with any certainty that he is right or not. He said he had spoken to other players who had heard similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2012 Share Posted 30 January, 2012 I heard from someone last week that if we go up next season the big bucks will be coming out. He's in close contact with some players. reckons we're absolutely minted. No idea whether he was telling the truth or not, no reason to doubt him. Who knows. Just putting it out there. Make of it what you will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 30 January, 2012 Share Posted 30 January, 2012 (edited) I heard from someone last week that if we go up next season the big bucks will be coming out. He's in close contact with some players. reckons we're absolutely minted. No idea whether he was telling the truth or not, no reason to doubt him. Who knows. Just putting it out there. Make of it what you will... Would back up what Alan Nixon said about us making a 'scary' offer for Hooper. Edited 30 January, 2012 by beavis17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 January, 2012 Share Posted 30 January, 2012 I heard from someone last week that if we go up next season the big bucks will be coming out. He's in close contact with some players. reckons we're absolutely minted. No idea whether he was telling the truth or not, no reason to doubt him. Who knows. Just putting it out there. Make of it what you will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 So just because I choose not to go along with your random postulations (any evidence for any of them btw) that means that I am easily pacified and not a critical thinker? H'mmm - note to self - you really must go along with all theories put up on this board and completely disregard the minor detail of actual evidence. Must do better. Since we now have Sharp (for a bargain and a signing I am happy with, for the record), I still stand by my theory. I don't think we were ever in the running for Hooper and I don't think we have as much money available as previously made out. The evidence for that, Puncheon coming back to the club when it looked liked he would never play again, Lee came on a free although the club kept that quiet, then we signed Sharp for a very good price. I think a certain amount of suspicion is entitled when the club previously painted a picture otherwise but it's old news now. If we look likely for promotion, new fees may become available (or will need to be if we're expected to win a handfull of games) and these will need to be substantial. All I am saying is, the club intimated we were looking and active in the transfer market which we were but the reality of actually landing all of those players was clearly a false dawn and we had likely only intended on a small number of low cost transfers which, in essence, is exactly what happneded. Hardly a conspiracy. More a case of smoke and mirrors to keep the fans onside. The club did the same last season. I noticed it, as did others. Anyway, as i say, old news...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Yes it`s ridiculous! We should have spent a lot more money on these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Hooper again? Billy shouldn't have missed that sitter on Tuesday and given away a penalty then :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Rangers Administration has virtually handed Celtic the Championship. I can see, if we really were really interested, Celtic now allowing Hooper, or a defender to come to us on loan for the rest of the season. Certainly an avenue worth following up when it's goals we're needed of late to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Since we now have Sharp (for a bargain and a signing I am happy with, for the record), I still stand by my theory. I don't think we were ever in the running for Hooper and I don't think we have as much money available as previously made out. The evidence for that, Puncheon coming back to the club when it looked liked he would never play again, Lee came on a free although the club kept that quiet, then we signed Sharp for a very good price. I think a certain amount of suspicion is entitled when the club previously painted a picture otherwise but it's old news now. If we look likely for promotion, new fees may become available (or will need to be if we're expected to win a handfull of games) and these will need to be substantial. All I am saying is, the club intimated we were looking and active in the transfer market which we were but the reality of actually landing all of those players was clearly a false dawn and we had likely only intended on a small number of low cost transfers which, in essence, is exactly what happneded. Hardly a conspiracy. More a case of smoke and mirrors to keep the fans onside. The club did the same last season. I noticed it, as did others. Anyway, as i say, old news...... Nigel personally made calls to Hooper's Dad twice to sound out the player's position and willingness to move. The club made two offers to Celtic. I have no way of knowing if this was all a sham and we never intended to actually go ahead and sign him, but I do know that these calls were made. Seems a very odd thing for our most senior management to do, during a transfer window and busy fixture period just "to keep fans onside" but hey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 David Connelly is not going to last beyond this season except for occasional cameo roles if we get promotion. I am certain that Hooper will eventually end up at Saints, especially if we do end up in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 If you really believe that NC and NA concocted fictitious transfer deals (incidentally ones they didn't actively comment on) in order to appease fans then I think you should seek medical help. I do think the Celtic position is interesting though. If Rangers did go to the wall (unlikely, but that is a massive debt) then there would literally be one big team in Scotland.... and what little TV money there is would walk South of the border. We need Pompey to survive for rivalry reasons, Celtic need Rangers for financial ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Nigel personally made calls to Hooper's Dad twice to sound out the player's position and willingness to move. The club made two offers to Celtic. I have no way of knowing if this was all a sham and we never intended to actually go ahead and sign him, but I do know that these calls were made. Seems a very odd thing for our most senior management to do, during a transfer window and busy fixture period just "to keep fans onside" but hey Give me strength ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 If you really believe that NC and NA concocted fictitious transfer deals (incidentally ones they didn't actively comment on) in order to appease fans then I think you should seek medical help. I do think the Celtic position is interesting though. If Rangers did go to the wall (unlikely, but that is a massive debt) then there would literally be one big team in Scotland.... and what little TV money there is would walk South of the border. We need Pompey to survive for rivalry reasons, Celtic need Rangers for financial ones. True some Celtic fans just buy their ST to make sure they have a ticket for The Old Firm game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Give me strength ! Are you still here? I thought that you were going to implode or dematerialize or something if we signed Billy Sharp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Are you still here? I thought that you were going to implode or dematerialize or something if we signed Billy Sharp? I thought he/she was going to do that if Glenda got the England job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Are you still here? I thought that you were going to implode or dematerialize or something if we signed Billy Sharp? No, it was always that I would implode if we signed Hooper. Anyway i have been having a look at the comedy going on down the road, actually starting to feel a bit sorry for them. Moment of weakness. Could we lend them forepost if they need a 'rush goalie' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 I thought that it was Hooper or Sharp! You are as bad as that lot down the road - always moving the goalposts! Now there`s an idea for them - moving goalposts. I`m sure that they`ll try this before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 I thought that it was Hooper or Sharp! You are as bad as that lot down the road - always moving the goalposts! Now there`s an idea for them - moving goalposts. I`m sure that they`ll try this before long. Not quite as bad, at least I can afford me bus fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 February, 2012 Share Posted 17 February, 2012 (edited) All I am saying is, the club intimated we were looking and active in the transfer market which we were but the reality of actually landing all of those players was clearly a false dawn and we had likely only intended on a small number of low cost transfers which, in essence, is exactly what happneded. Hardly a conspiracy. More a case of smoke and mirrors to keep the fans onside. The club did the same last season. I noticed it, as did others. Anyway, as i say, old news...... I think there are a number of issues here. firstly - some stories are pure fabrication, or at least based on very flimsy evidence. Fans (and even agents ) .."fancy" a player to be in our side and start a "campaign" to get him signed, or someone picks up on a twitter, or someone else's article and "embelishes " it . Journalists go into print based on this and write "non-stories" rather than leave a gaping hole on the sport page - they are rarely honest or accurate.. secondly - the bidding process creates all sorts of anomolies. Clubs who are cash-strapped are forced to sell players - often below their market value. This happened to us prior to Administration with the likes of Dyer and Surman. I read something from a Bristol City director who said that (we) Saints had never bid for Maynard at all ! (who knows what's true). We "apparantly " bid over £3 million for Billy in the summer, but he didn't want to come because .. as he was quoted " the time wasn't right .." (of course his wife was heavily pregnant, and they subsequently lost the baby. Now the deal is OK ...and we got him at a lower fee - mainly due to the " release clause " that was not common knowledge at that time. Some people seem to think that either; A big name means a big fee and should we really spend that much? ..or he's only a free transfer - he can't be that good ! Free transfer, or low fees can mean the contract is about to / has gone out /or has been bought out and the player is free to choose his own future. I think most people agree that buying T. Lee seems to have been a good deal? or ..? In order to sign a player, you need to; agree a fee with the club, terms with the player and be sure he will fit in the sqaud.. all of these areas can be a minefield in negotiations, before anyone puts pen to paper. Hooper may still come ..especially if we are promoted..in the summer, but it will depend on whether or not Celtic can survive the battle that Rangers have already lost ! lastly...Nicola Cortese's contacts, (and his hand on the purse strings) means that at least financially- we get a good deal for the club, and the likes of Papa Waigo (when he was here) and Guly..whilst not in the top class...were /are good deals at the time ... Cortese's banking bankground is based on confidentiality and trust and although it's a bit annoying not to hear about a signing BEFORE it happens, I kinda like his " softly-softly" approach to deals. It's really nothing to do with anyone else what we do, or who we sign - as long as we run the club legally. Why do the media's job for them ? The media has now (as has been shown recently) been relegated to the level of story-tellers, crystal-gazers and brothel-keepers. (they may tell interesting stories but don't take any of it seriously). Edited 17 February, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4271747/Saints-in-new-7m-Hoops-swoop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 Now this is a signing I want to see! Great finisher also with a bit of pace to get in behind. Would suit us perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 Giving us: Lambo Lee Sharp Hooper As our striking options. DC Barnard Guly Move on. Good enough for the Prem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 Giving us: Lambo Lee Sharp Hooper As our striking options. DC Barnard Guly Move on. Good enough for the Prem? Should be, some nice variation there was well. Bit of pace, power and your typical fox in the box type of striker. If Holt, Cole, Mackie etc can score in the premier league, then so can that batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 Its no use fannying around now, this should have been sorted last summer in January at the laztest ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 As none of those strikers would have real pace we would certainly need a couple of pacy wide players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 Giving us: Lambo Lee Sharp Hooper As our striking options. DC Barnard Guly Move on. Good enough for the Prem? Add Rodriguez to the equation and there IMO are 5 very good strikers who are all good enough to score you goals regularly in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 £7m + top wages, wow. Does fit the purchasing profile we have adopted though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 Rather get Austin and Cox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 What sort of wages would the likes of hopper command? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 Hooper even, damn auto correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rdSaint Posted 22 April, 2012 Share Posted 22 April, 2012 Add Rodriguez to the equation and there IMO are 5 very good strikers who are all good enough to score you goals regularly in the Premier League. 100% agree. Lambert, Sharp, Lee, Hooper and Rodriguez would be my ideal strike force for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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