South City Si Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Could Watford's decision to sack Ady Boothroyd be our gain? This could really help us especilly with Watford being broke and prob not afford a decent replacement.
KK the 2nd Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Amazing decision .. I agree could be good for us as puts another club in the mire.
Window Cleaner Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Amazing decision .. I agree could be good for us as puts another club in the mire. Why is it an amazing decision? he's got the players but not the results. He's got what should have happened to Burley yonks ago.
Toomer Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Strange decison always thought he did a good job at Vicarage Road, not his fault they are skint. Another one on the lists of possible replacements for Jan if Lowe thinks it is time for him go, if that is the case can you go as well.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Could Watford's decision to sack Ady Boothroyd be our gain? This could really help us especilly with Watford being broke and prob not afford a decent replacement. If it meant Boothroyd's next job was to manage us then yes, but as Watford will soon have the 'new manager effect', and we are stuck with Poortaloo, I dont see us gaining from it at all.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Could Watford's decision to sack Ady Boothroyd be our gain? This could really help us especilly with Watford being broke and prob not afford a decent replacement. Only if you believe there's a direct coralation between the managers wages and team performance - which I don't by the way . Just as likely a new manager will improve Watford's performance level , at least in the short term .
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 If it meant Boothroyd's next job was to manage us then yes, but as Watford will soon have the 'new manager effect', and we are stuck with Poortaloo, I dont see us gaining from it at all. Such a shame that we always seem to miss out on the 'new manager effect'.
ottery st mary Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 New Manager a Mr John. You can just see it now, old Elton in a tracksuit with his initials on and running the show. Reminds me of someone else, who returned, to show how it should be done.
sambosa75 Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Could he really do a job for us though? Aside from the season he got Watford promoted, he's hardly pulled up trees. I think he just happened to have one of those seasons where everything went right, players peaked at the right time and he had Marlon King who had a bit of a purple patch that season. I think he is a decent coach but not brilliant. A lot of people appear to be mocking JP but do you really think Boothroyd could come in to Saints, inheriting the same players we currently have with 0 transfer funds and do any better, whilst being happy with the situation?
Thedelldays Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Could he really do a job for us though? Aside from the season he got Watford promoted, he's hardly pulled up trees. I think he just happened to have one of those seasons where everything went right, players peaked at the right time and he had Marlon King who had a bit of a purple patch that season. I think he is a decent coach but not brilliant. A lot of people appear to be mocking JP but do you really think Boothroyd could come in to Saints, inheriting the same players we currently have with 0 transfer funds and do any better, whilst being happy with the situation? erm, yes
NickG Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Could he really do a job for us though? Aside from the season he got Watford promoted, he's hardly pulled up trees. I think he just happened to have one of those seasons where everything went right, players peaked at the right time and he had Marlon King who had a bit of a purple patch that season. I think he is a decent coach but not brilliant. A lot of people appear to be mocking JP but do you really think Boothroyd could come in to Saints, inheriting the same players we currently have with 0 transfer funds and do any better, whilst being happy with the situation? who knows, but probably not. Hearing how Gobbern respects JP and his way.
harwellsaint Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 (edited) Could Watford's decision to sack Ady Boothroyd be our gain? This could really help us especilly with Watford being broke and prob not afford a decent replacement. who cares, glad he is not capable of inflicting crimes against football for a while , i hate everything he does with the game , good riddance to that totall numbskull! a. hoofthroyd rip Edited 3 November, 2008 by harwellsaint
voteforpedro Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Could he really do a job for us though? Aside from the season he got Watford promoted, he's hardly pulled up trees. I think he just happened to have one of those seasons where everything went right, players peaked at the right time and he had Marlon King who had a bit of a purple patch that season. I think he is a decent coach but not brilliant. A lot of people appear to be mocking JP but do you really think Boothroyd could come in to Saints, inheriting the same players we currently have with 0 transfer funds and do any better, whilst being happy with the situation? I agree 100% with that post and IMO Jan is doing a good job here
ART Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Harry's appointment and reasonably fast success at Spuds is going to send a shock wave through football clubs craving success. Of course there are many clubs like Saints who are the beggars with no choice who'll stick with their managers, coaches etc.. thru thick and thin. Heads will role and the home from cast off football managers will fill. No wonder Rupert chose to invest in retirement homes.
Didcot Saint Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Lets hope we can now rid ourselves of the Watford hoodoo. Bothroyd deserves it, his team and tatics are a disgrace to the great game of football. Lets hope they are relegated. Lets face it no one will miss their ramshackle dump of a stadium lacking in any atmosphere filled with clueless idiots that actually turn up and support such a **** club.
Fan The Flames Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Lets hope we can now rid ourselves of the Watford hoodoo. Bothroyd deserves it, his team and tatics are a disgrace to the great game of football. Lets hope they are relegated. Lets face it no one will miss their ramshackle dump of a stadium lacking in any atmosphere filled with clueless idiots that actually turn up and support such a **** club. Have you be wronged by a Watford fan in the past by any chance.
Didcot Saint Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Have you be wronged by a Watford fan in the past by any chance. No mate i just cannot stand their brand of football it winds me up big time. Also i have been to their ground on numerous occasions, have always seen us lose to a load of hoof it boot boys(premiership included), their fans do not sing,the atmosphere is rubbish,and they are just an irritant. End of!
benjii Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Watford were garbage when they were a decent Championship team and they were probably the worst team I have ever seen when they beat us 3-0 this year. I fail to see how this will make them worse.
Thedelldays Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Watford were garbage when they were a decent Championship team and they were probably the worst team I have ever seen when they beat us 3-0 this year. I fail to see how this will make them worse. being garbage at the same time as being better than what we have ever been in this league despite spending an absolute fortune by CCC one summer...
benjii Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 being garbage at the same time as being better than what we have ever been in this league despite spending an absolute fortune by CCC one summer... They weren't better than us. They were boring, aesthetically and artistically bankrupt, one dimensional nobodies. I would have been gutted if we played like that. And what has Burley's spending got to do with anything? The thread is about whether Boothroyd getting the sack is a good thing. It's not.
Polaroid Saint Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 I've always liked 'plucky' Watford. Not so keen on arrogant Watford - I now (fully) understand how fans of other CCC teams who had previously liked Saints in the Prem began to find us irritating when we came down, fully expecting to go back up without a struggle and moaning when it didn't workout. No one likes a whinger. No offence meant, TDD :-)
Thedelldays Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 They weren't better than us. They were boring, aesthetically and artistically bankrupt, one dimensional nobodies. I would have been gutted if we played like that. And what has Burley's spending got to do with anything? The thread is about whether Boothroyd getting the sack is a good thing. It's not. well..i guess we see being better as two different things...i thought he actually got watford promoted against all odds...as for bankrupt, well, im sure we will find out what that is really like before little, crappy boring watford do.. as for playing like they do, we were so bad las year I would have rather let my baby cousin play bath time with ian huntley than watch saints.. this is football (or saints) snobbery at its best....what is next, we will walk this league?
Polaroid Saint Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 I don't think Watford have been playing a hoof-n-hope game under Boothroyd by choice - but like so many teams/players/fans/managers they panic in this league when things ain't working and resort to classic English route one football. At the (VERY) least saints are trying to stick to their style and improve, rather than panicking and missing out the talent in the middle of the park by hoofing upfront every time. So many teams do this; it's the natural way of Div2 football. SO, maybe a blessing in disguise then that we have a manager that knows very little about this league?! Mind you, I quite like the look of Watford's Polish striker. HCDAJFU. ;-)
benjii Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 as for playing like they do, we were so bad las year I would have rather let my baby cousin play bath time with ian huntley than watch saints.. :cool: this is football (or saints) snobbery at its best....what is next, we will walk this league? Next season.
thefuriousb Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 as for playing like they do, we were so bad las year I would have rather let my baby cousin play bath time with ian huntley than watch saints.. this is football (or saints) snobbery at its best....what is next, we will walk this league? You may not know this, however it is now "this" season. We are also playing attractive, refreshing football, a style that should be applauded and supported (for want of a less pertinant turn of phrase). You may be more than pleasantly surprised this Saturday.
Ash Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 He's got what should have happened to Burley yonks ago. You do know he has gone?
PokingFun Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 If it meant Boothroyd's next job was to manage us then yes, but as Watford will soon have the 'new manager effect', and we are stuck with Poortaloo, I dont see us gaining from it at all. There is no such thing as a 'new manager effect' - as many that improve for a new manager is equalled by at least as many that don't improve.
Wade Garrett Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Maybe Watford will approach JP and a total football approach. They might even poach our Director of Football!
The Godfather Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Their's a big chance that Boothroyd will end up as QPR manager.
solentstars Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 Could Watford's decision to sack Ady Boothroyd be our gain? This could really help us especilly with Watford being broke and prob not afford a decent replacement.do not rate the guy,he should have been sacked last year.
solentstars Posted 3 November, 2008 Posted 3 November, 2008 They weren't better than us. They were boring, aesthetically and artistically bankrupt, one dimensional nobodies. I would have been gutted if we played like that. And what has Burley's spending got to do with anything? The thread is about whether Boothroyd getting the sack is a good thing. It's not.(they were boring, aesthetically and artistically bankrupt, one dimensional nobodies).i think you sumed up watford and i am glad we are not playing their type of football.
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 A manager who can take a team from League 1 and get them up to the Premiership in three seasons is not bad in my opinion. His sacking could well be bad news for Watford in the long run. Whether it is good news for us is a different question.. what if Charlton sack Pardew and appoint Boothroyd in his place - in that case it could be bad news for us indeed!
Thedelldays Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 You may not know this, however it is now "this" season. We are also playing attractive, refreshing football, a style that should be applauded and supported (for want of a less pertinant turn of phrase). You may be more than pleasantly surprised this Saturday. lol more like car crash football that has been the main this season (all bar 2-3 games and a few good 45 mins) we still have to score at least 3 to win..how many times are we going to do that..?
skintsaint Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 A lot of people appear to be mocking JP but do you really think Boothroyd could come in to Saints, inheriting the same players we currently have with 0 transfer funds and do any better, whilst being happy with the situation? I agree, he wouldnt do as well imo. He has a better squad at Watford and where are they?
South City Si Posted 4 November, 2008 Author Posted 4 November, 2008 I never meant we should take him on, I meant could it help us as it might unstabilise them and make it harder for them to find form, therefore helping us out by getting worse results than us. The more teams that are worse than us the better it is for us, simple as, not that we still don't have to fight ourselves though. They are broke and probably could not afford to appoint anyone better than Boothroyd unless they take a risk.
OldNick Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 lol more like car crash football that has been the main this season (all bar 2-3 games and a few good 45 mins) we still have to score at least 3 to win..how many times are we going to do that..? have we scored 3 goals or more every time we have won this season then DD?
solentstars Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 A manager who can take a team from League 1 and get them up to the Premiership in three seasons is not bad in my opinion. His sacking could well be bad news for Watford in the long run. Whether it is good news for us is a different question.. what if Charlton sack Pardew and appoint Boothroyd in his place - in that case it could be bad news for us indeed!Pardew has a better record as a manager and if charlton appoint the ex watford manager,good luck to them.
Calvin Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 WE COULLLLLLDNNNNT AFFORD HIM SO why bother having confidence in recruiting him as the new Saints mananager.
Chez Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 absolute dissaster if you ask me. With him at the helm they were going down fast. Now they have a chance to turn thngs around. As for him coming to us, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever. Even Lowe is not stupid enough to employ a manager who prefers the ****kicker approach when the squad is full of `players' (Wotton apart).
Ekelund24 Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 Could he really do a job for us though? Aside from the season he got Watford promoted, he's hardly pulled up trees. I think he just happened to have one of those seasons where everything went right, players peaked at the right time and he had Marlon King who had a bit of a purple patch that season. I think he is a decent coach but not brilliant. A lot of people appear to be mocking JP but do you really think Boothroyd could come in to Saints, inheriting the same players we currently have with 0 transfer funds and do any better, whilst being happy with the situation? Two full seasons in the Championship both finished with playoff positions - in which they were promoted once. Granted crap in the Premiership but consistant at this level. I think it is unfair to call them a long ball team, they play direct football into a physically strong and quick forward (although not sure why he picked Rasiak for that job!!!!)
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 Boothroyd is just another clueless English failed manager. Why on earth would we want him here, so that we can play the Watford way? For Saints? I don't think so! They used to call it kick and rush, these days the very posh people at the FA aremore polite and call it 'direct' football.., to you and me that's up and under.
Thedelldays Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 i just love the way he is written off so quickly after achieving the near impossibly with watford and has run his course with his current club.. i remember the same being said about mick mccarthy and tony pulis.. i also remember the laughter on here when phil brown was available.. LOL
hypochondriac Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 i just love the way he is written off so quickly after achieving the near impossibly with watford and has run his course with his current club.. i remember the same being said about mick mccarthy and tony pulis.. i also remember the laughter on here when phil brown was available.. LOL Oh yes because TDD knows all. Stop being so pompous.
Thedelldays Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 (edited) Oh yes because TDD knows all. Stop being so pompous. i am not claiming I know it all..just pointing out that most saints fans (given recent history) have no clue really apart from what they see in their rose tinted, lowe hating goggles Edited 4 November, 2008 by Thedelldays
L1Minus10 Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 One trick manager. Got promoted by hoofing it and was totally clueless in the Prem and totally cluless last year when teams (not us) sussed them out. Lost a few players, didn't adapt at all. Will be the next Iain Dowie - semi decent reputation based on one promotion but when you scratch beneath the surface, very very average.
Ludwig Posted 4 November, 2008 Posted 4 November, 2008 One trick manager. Got promoted by hoofing it and was totally clueless in the Prem and totally cluless last year when teams (not us) sussed them out. Lost a few players, didn't adapt at all. Will be the next Iain Dowie - semi decent reputation based on one promotion but when you scratch beneath the surface, very very average. Disagree. The current Watford side is not the team Boothroyd would like. He's had players sold from beneath him and has lost the physicality, presence and pace that he prefers. The Watford team is poor, which is partly down to bad signings, but also down to an awful board. I personally think he's a very competent manager, especially at this level and I quite like him. Can't see Watford getting anyone better, although if they look towards Paul Tisdale or Gus Poyet, they may go some way to that.
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