rooney Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 There will be more money for players wages when we do not need people to man the turnstiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I am confused, this started as a thread on The Chairmans Dinner or similar. 3 pages ago it descended into a slanging match by 'The Usual Suspects'. Are these :- 1. The same person using a variety of names to be WUM, trolls etc. 2. Different WUM trolls 3. A group of people with narcistic tendencies. 4. Skates. 5. A mixture of above. I do know a person with more than 2 identities on here who have had an argument with themselves. How sad is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I doubt many fans feel any different. I don't, I agree completely. But as with all things, a balance has to be struck and breaking a wage structure to get one player could undermine everything if other members of the squad know about it. 'Together as one' as Adkins would say, probably applies to the wage structure and overall playing budget just as much as anything else. I agree. I just hope we are going for a realistic price tag. I hope they realise that for 99% of players, a big wedge on a transfer fee will mean expectations of a big wage. If we aren't willing to do that, then we should go for a lesser player or perhaps explore our options in lower leagues (or maybe go abroad as we have been doing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 He played in one qualifying game vs Braga (admittedly he scored in it) and not in any group stage games. He has two goals in Europa League games vs Udinese and Rennes. Fair enough I may have got my players confused. Fact is he has played (and performed well) at a higher level than Lambert. Also he is younger so will be worth more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 That's kind of my point. I'm sure everyone will go along and enjoy a good feed and some free booze. And in a relaxed and convivial environment, they will be able to have an informal discussion on several matters that either they are concerned about, or they will be able to voice their opinions on things that the Chairman of the club wants feedback on from the Club's paying customers. Apart from petty jealousy, I don't see why anybody would have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I am confused, this started as a thread on The Chairmans Dinner or similar. 3 pages ago it descended into a slanging match by 'The Usual Suspects'. Are these :- 1. The same person using a variety of names to be WUM, trolls etc. 2. Different WUM trolls 3. A group of people with narcistic tendencies. 4. Skates. 5. A mixture of above. I do know a person with more than 2 identities on here who have had an argument with themselves. How sad is that. Seriously it's really boring when people just moan about other people's comments. The current discussion has stemmed from comments made at the dinner. Minty has managed to explain his point of view really well and I found his opinion quite interesting (and I agreed with most of it.) Why can't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 And in a relaxed and convivial environment, they will be able to have an informal discussion on several matters that either they are concerned about, or they will be able to voice their opinions on things that the Chairman of the club wants feedback on from the Club's paying customers. Apart from petty jealousy, I don't see why anybody would have a problem with it. I have no problem with it. I just disagree that it should be the only way that supporters should be able to get their views heard by the chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 As a matter of interest, how did the old 'fans forums' used to run. How many attended, was it a 'freeforall' first come first in affair, how many attended, how often did they take place...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 As a matter of interest, how did the old 'fans forums' used to run. How many attended, was it a 'freeforall' first come first in affair, how many attended, how often did they take place...??? If I recall correctly various supporters' associations had quotas and allocated places according to whatever rules they had in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I have no problem with it. I just disagree that it should be the only way that supporters should be able to get their views heard by the chairman. Surely it isn't. Is there any evidence that if somebody writes something addressed to the Chairman, or any other representative of the club, either in the form of a snail-mail letter, or an email, that it is ignored? Also, I am led to understand that there are people at the club who pay some attention to opinions expressed by fans on forums such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Surely it isn't. Is there any evidence that if somebody writes something addressed to the Chairman, or any other representative of the club, either in the form of a snail-mail letter, or an email, that it is ignored? Also, I am led to understand that there are people at the club who pay some attention to opinions expressed by fans on forums such as this. Yes. I wrote about the flag last year and received no response. Mike confirmed that he got no response either for a month or two. I also wrote about fans forums and got one reply I was not satisfied with. I replied again and got no reply. The forums are important because they allow the club to be publicly asked about their decisions and for supporters to get a reply. Part of its value is that it is not stage managed and so cannot be 'controlled.' The same is not true for these dinners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 As a matter of interest, how did the old 'fans forums' used to run. How many attended, was it a 'freeforall' first come first in affair, how many attended, how often did they take place...??? You had to apply by contacting Solent. (or by getting tickets if you know a presenter on there ). It was a simple process and to my knowledge, everyone who applied got a ticket. They took place once a year normally just before the season or a few games in. I was told that the reason for no forum last year was due to the death of Markus (fair enough) but it seems that this was just an excuse to shelve them. A shame really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 All these players we keep trying to sign we don't get. Cortese isn't doing a very good job on that front. So which Championship chairman has done a better job? Granted that the window is still open for all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Yes. I wrote about the flag last year and received no response. Mike confirmed that he got no response either for a month or two. I also wrote about fans forums and got one reply I was not satisfied with. I replied again and got no reply. The forums are important because they allow the club to be publicly asked about their decisions and for supporters to get a reply. Part of its value is that it is not stage managed and so cannot be 'controlled.' The same is not true for these dinners. You know this for a fact then? The selection of the ST holders attending isn't random? Those selected are fed questions to ask? They are briefed before attending on what they can or cannot discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Do people remember transfer windows of old when we were desperate for them to finish in case we lost players? Surely we are in a better place now even if we don't pull off a major signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 It is a pity NC does not do the Radio Solent fans forum. I guess they are too hard to control for someone sensitive to criticism and unused to hearing alternative views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 [/b] You know this for a fact then? The selection of the ST holders attending isn't random? Those selected are fed questions to ask? They are briefed before attending on what they can or cannot discuss? The fact that it is season ticket holders who are invited (except for this saints foundation thing) and then the fact that it is a dinner paid for by the club means that there is control there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 It is a pity NC does not do the Radio Solent fans forum. I guess they are too hard to control for someone sensitive to criticism and unused to hearing alternative views. How do you know he is "sensitive to criticism and unused to hearing alternative views" if you dont know him and he doesnt do Radio Solents fans forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 We have had a few injuries and lost a few games and that happens to all teams. I haven't wet my knickers just yet because I know we have the players to get promotion. I believe that with all the players fit (i.e those who got us to the top of the table) we will get back to the top of the table. I am intrigued by Lee's arrvial and I am glad that Puncheon has dropped his baseball bat and is back on the bus.......we just need a spark to reignite the season and I have a feeling one or both of these two may well just give us that. The key to the season is a bit of luck with injuries and not who we bring in next....we are already good enough! A rational, logical and well worded post - thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Sometimes it seems a few on here would rather we were still saddled with Lowe, Wilde and Crouch running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Sometimes it seems a few on here would rather we were still saddled with Lowe, Wilde and Crouch running the show. Another fine contribution to the thread. Keep em coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Sometimes it seems a few on here would rather we were still saddled with Lowe, Wilde and Crouch running the show. What does that have to do with valid criticism of the current regime? Just because in the past we had idiots running things doesn't make the current lot beyond reproach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I'm having trouble seeing the difference between Lowes prudent approach To Corteses. Yet one was a tight fisted c/nt and the other is a business genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 It is a pity NC does not do the Radio Solent fans forum. I guess they are too hard to control for someone sensitive to criticism and unused to hearing alternative views. Or plain just getting on with the job? Not looking for the distraction of a bunch of fans with multiply different agendas maybe - don't misunderstand me...I am all for any Board or owner listening to the supporters' opinions but Cortese has been very focused on achieving what he set out to do in his way. So far that has delivered one cup, one promotion and a high position at the turn of the year with a realistic shot at promotion to the PL...if his way wasn't working then there would be a better case for doing it differently. We have achieved whilst the vast majority of clubs in both of the leagues we have been in have not....so far. I wonder if they attribute their successes or lack of them to their fans feedback or would they just be happy to see a plan coming together...answers on a postcard please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Do people remember transfer windows of old when we were desperate for them to finish in case we lost players? Surely we are in a better place now even if we don't pull off a major signing. Absolutely - we have come a long way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancsaint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 (edited) Wonder if the swipe card system will mean the re-introduction of membership? It would seem pointless having s/t holders using a card and non s/t holders still being given paper tickets. The swipe card would be able to be banned from entry, immediately, thus allowing the re-introduction of the installment plan and stopping duplicated tickets from being used to gain entry. Later.....sorry didn't spot previous answers. Edited 27 January, 2012 by mancsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I don't think we are guilty of hyping signings before we have signed them. The only thing I question is putting big money bids in for players of we are then not prepared to pay the wages that would quite obviously go along with that. Why not go for a lesser quality of player if that is our attitude? Maybe we want to sign players who value success ahead of cash... It's not like our players are on the bread line. Maybe we're playing brinksmanship with a parbticular player who thinks he can get a better offer. Re fans forums I don't see why the club should have to open themselves up to the usual rentagobs and grandstanders. people should see this as more of a focus group exercise rather than overplaying it, most big business will occasionally have events where the ceo gets to meet customers for an informal chat, more opinions are likely to be heard and explored than in a larger event where people can feel nervous about speaking up. Of course it's unlike dune to assume the worst of nc, he took Puncheons apology for being an arse, as cast iron proof he had done nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Maybe we want to sign players who value success ahead of cash... It's not like our players are on the bread line. Think we will find these will be a very very small number in the prem if we get there! Maybe we're playing brinksmanship with a parbticular player who thinks he can get a better offer. Well we weren't in the summer. Re fans forums I don't see why the club should have to open themselves up to the usual rentagobs and grandstanders. people should see this as more of a focus group exercise rather than overplaying it, most big business will occasionally have events where the ceo gets to meet customers for an informal chat, more opinions are likely to be heard and explored than in a larger event where people can feel nervous about speaking up. The fans forums were really not like that. There were one or two but in general there were sensible fans who wanted to ask the club a question or two and get them answered. It was decent PR and allowed people to ask difficult questions and receive a public reply. Of course the other thing about a public questioning is that those answering can be publically held accountable at what they say- in both a positive and negative sense. Of course it's unlike dune to assume the worst of nc, he took Puncheons apology for being an arse, as cast iron proof he had done nothing wrong. I can't speak for dune, but I assumed that Puncheon's apology was a condition of him being able to be invited into the fold again rather than something he honestly believes. Surely if he thought he had been truly wrong he would have apologised long ago. By apologising, the club do not have to admit to anything and Puncheon can go back to being in the squad. Everyone wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I can't speak for dune, but I assumed that Puncheon's apology was a condition of him being able to be invited into the fold again rather than something he honestly believes. Surely if he thought he had been truly wrong he would have apologised long ago. By apologising, the club do not have to admit to anything and Puncheon can go back to being in the squad. Everyone wins. I can't imagine Swansea are paying big wages and they have shrewdly signed hungry players that look good value, as have naaarch. Qpr on the other probably are paying good wages... Just saying. In the summer we signed enough quality, which combined with our already decent squad propelled us to the top of the league, I still fail to see how we had a poor summer by anyone's standards, we seen to have added quality without rocking the boat and annoying the players who got us up. I will admit to not having been to a forum but the impression I got was that certain 'representatives' hogged the floor and shouted down opposing views, I won't argue this point though as I wasnt there, it is quite likely the nc was given similar information upon which he based his decision, let's face it iif he ever came and saw some of the nonsense about him on here you could understand why we he would take a different tack. On the last point I would venture that both of you are coming at it from an angle that wants to be sympathetic to punch because you are not enamoured of nc, if you're honest with yourself it's far easier to believe that punch acted like a **** (even if your only evidence were his tweets) than it is to believe he was an innocent party and the only player victimised by nc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 (edited) I'm having trouble seeing the difference between Lowes prudent approach To Corteses. Yet one was a tight fisted c/nt and the other is a business genius! Too early to compare - we've only been in the NPC for a half a season and this transfer window hasn't ended yet FFS. The irony is that while we were in L1, the criticism was that we were the equivalent of Man City, spunking silly money on big players -Lambert, Fonte, Punch, Guly etc. So what's changed? No doubt, this season has taken NC and the club by surprise. Its conceivable that the clu budgeted on the basis of consolidation followed by steady progress next season and thereafter. Doesn't mean NC is not ambitious - its just that he has a longer time horizon than most dins on here. That could never be said of Lowe. He didn't have an ambition -short or long-term- apart from treading water and hoping we made it past the finishing line each May. Now we have a fantastic opportunity to go up, it would be wrong not to try and seize it. But everyone accepts that, after our terrific start, we don't need an overhaul, that we're only short a few players and that consequently quality is more important that quality. Why is it a problem that there hasn't been much activity if we only need one or two players? Why is it a problem that we're taking our time if means we've assessed all our options and do deals with our eyes wide open? Either way, lets see where we are at the end of the window -bearing in mind that its been barren for most clubs- and then assess where we are at the end of season. Perhaps the club genuinely thinks we have enough (we did last season, even while people here were going into meltdown) and that buying overpriced stopgaps who might not cut it at a higher level isn't worth it. I have my doubts; but I can see why the club might take that position (assuming it does). If the club is wrong, lets see if NC bites the bullet and accepts that some journeymen come with inflated wage demands. Only then can you judge. Its a work in progress - and its premature to call our transfer activity tightfisted on the basis of the last two and a half years let alone compare it to Lowe. Edited 27 January, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I can't imagine Swansea are paying big wages and they have shrewdly signed hungry players that look good value, as have naaarch. Qpr on the other probably are paying good wages... Just saying. Don't have the wage details. Would make interesting reading no doubt. In the summer we signed enough quality, which combined with our already decent squad propelled us to the top of the league, I still fail to see how we had a poor summer by anyone's standards, we seen to have added quality without rocking the boat and annoying the players who got us up. Debatable. We certainly made some good signings, but our squad depth has really let us down in the last couple of months. With a few more key signings, even mid table form would have seen us well clear at the top. I will admit to not having been to a forum but the impression I got was that certain 'representatives' hogged the floor and shouted down opposing views, I won't argue this point though as I wasnt there, it is quite likely the nc was given similar information upon which he based his decision, let's face it iif he ever came and saw some of the nonsense about him on here you could understand why we he would take a different tack. Cortese had a fans forum so he would have been aware what it was about. No doubt this sort of thing happened when Lowe was in charge but my recollection of the Cortese one was that it was a load of fans congratulating him and saying how grateful they were. On the last point I would venture that both of you are coming at it from an angle that wants to be sympathetic to punch because you are not enamoured of nc, if you're honest with yourself it's far easier to believe that punch acted like a **** (even if your only evidence were his tweets) than it is to believe he was an innocent party and the only player victimised by nc? I have no idea what the fight was about. I just get annoyed that people automatically believe the player is a tw*t based on not a lot. I'm not saying Cortese is to blame but I'm also saying I don't know Puncheon is either. It is possible that Cortese was petty after the event and dragged it on longer than necessary. He certainly showed an error of judgement over the banning of photos and eventually changed his mind over that one so it's not a huge leap to imagine the same thing happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 this season has taken NC and the club by surprise. Its conceivable that the clu budgeted on the basis of consolidation followed by steady progress next season and thereafter. What you are suggesting is that Nicola has been caught on the hop. This might be true to an extent, but it isn't very encouraging if your chairman cannot react decisively to changing circumstances. I accept that he is still learning and making many mistakes along the way, but surely he could bring in help. Personally i'd trust the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Thank you to the posters who gave a little hint about what was talked about, sound really good. Glad the new academy will be started soon. Personally I don't think many teams have a whole season looking unbeatable and all stumble, especially when they have key players missing - look at city, man u and arsenal (wiltshire). Just think where spurs would be without bale for a few weeks. NA says its a marathon and he is right. Our manager has a good relationship with NC, he is investing and not prepared to do a pompy (reading the posts I wonder if Dune would realise that - especially as I thought he likes Thacher and the whole spending money within a limit) get players hungery to better themselves NOT for a pay cheque (not stupid money). In NC I trust. PS I like the thought of people able to go who would not normally be able to voice there thoughts, instead of the loud mouth. But would also like questions and answers on the saints site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I have no idea what the fight was about. I just get annoyed that people automatically believe the player is a tw*t based on not a lot. I'm not saying Cortese is to blame but I'm also saying I don't know Puncheon is either. It is possible that Cortese was petty after the event and dragged it on longer than necessary. He certainly showed an error of judgement over the banning of photos and eventually changed his mind over that one so it's not a huge leap to imagine the same thing happened here. Swansea and Norwich both seem to have built good squads without blowing loads of cash on one player, it's a model I prefer to west ham or qpr's I don't think there was anything wrong with the approach in the summer, we clearly wanted a tilt at the league but then so did lots of other teams. We could have gone **** or bust, loaded the wage bill, underperformed and be mid-table. Instead we made some shrewd signings and have ourselves in the position where we could now gamble a bit more as the risk vs return looks wholly different now. I think we'll be pursuing options but if we don't get our targets for whatever reason i'm prepared to back the judgement of both nc and na because they have both earnt it. I think we can all agree that the prolonged spat has in no way helped the club and no-one has come out of it well, we can throw around recriminations and analyse the why's and wherefores or just be grateful they've worked it out and we've got a talented player back competing in. Vital position. Last post of the day, but it's been good having a proper discussion on here for a change. Apologies for the lack of quotes, typos , bit of a faff typing long messages on my phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 What you are suggesting is that Nicola has been caught on the hop. This might be true to an extent, but it isn't very encouraging if your chairman cannot react decisively to changing circumstances. I accept that he is still learning and making many mistakes along the way, but surely he could bring in help. Personally i'd trust the manager. Yes, possibly, but I'd say the whole club has been caught on the hop. And perhaps NC doesn't think missing out on promotion this season is the end of the world. Interestingly, NA has been stressing in interviews how we are ahead of schedule, a tone that suggests the pressure is slightly off him and the team. Can debate the rights and wrongs of this approach. Either way, if we don't go up, our squad will have been shown that its objectively not good enough to go all the way without reinforcements. And NC will have to walk the walk. Only then will I seriously begin to question his ambition. But that presumes we don't strengthen between now and the window and we dont get promoted, a thicket of ifs and buts that's impossible to settle right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I see Dune is trolling well on this tread, loads of moderation going on, or not! Once again, a decent discussion ruined by the same two or three posters, who, in the words of oldnick, 'keep getting away with it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I see Dune is trolling well on this tread, loads of moderation going on, or not! Once again, a decent discussion ruined by the same two or three posters, who, in the words of oldnick, 'keep getting away with it'. Holding a different view is such a crime on here with people like you. Being one of the ginger people I would have expected you would be tolerant of people who don't conform to the general viewpoint. Personally I like the ginger people and would never look at you differently because you're not normal. You should return this courtesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 This forum is getting ridiculous now. Every thread turns into ****e. Sort it out. Ban three people and some of the hundreds who read but dont post will return. Its not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I see Dune is trolling well on this tread, loads of moderation going on, or not! Once again, a decent discussion ruined by the same two or three posters, who, in the words of oldnick, 'keep getting away with it'. Not that hard to ignore really.Post what you want and let others do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Ban three people and some of the hundreds who read but dont post will return. Its not rocket science. This. I can't be asked sometimes!! Know a fair few who don't bother either cause of a ****tish handful who think they own this place. Sad sad people with nothing better to do than troll with 50 thousand posts to their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Not that hard to ignore really.Post what you want and let others do the same. You're no better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 You're no better... Don't follow my posts around then you snivelling turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Ban three people and some of the hundreds who read but dont post will return. Its not rocket science. I assume you refering to me in that? Are you still stalking me Timothy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Don't follow my posts around then you snivelling turd. Who you calling turd you dizzy fanny?? Go wash your face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Who you calling turd you dizzy fanny?? Go wash your face! :lol: Road Saint you're a comedy genius mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 :lol: Road Saint you're a comedy genius mate. Glad it excites you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Who you calling turd you dizzy fanny?? Go wash your face! Every time without fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 I see Dune is trolling well on this tread, loads of moderation going on, or not! Once again, a decent discussion ruined by the same two or three posters, who, in the words of oldnick, 'keep getting away with it'. There must be a drinking culture on TSW ffs!!!!!! thats what i heard!! that's what it is,Nicola needs to sort this !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 Every time without fail Yeah carry on laughing at yourself... Sad sad little man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 This was quite a good thread 3 pages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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